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    You’re evidently right, but many articles for the 2021 elections(, [1](https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-observers-begin-work-ahead-of-venezuela-elections/), [2](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211119-skeptical-opposition-participating-in-venezuela-regional-elections), [3](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/23/venezuela-recent-elections-an-improvement-over-past-votes-eu), …, including the one cited), said that it has been 15 years since the EU sent observers.\n
    \n
    In any case i would like to emphasised that this debate isn’t useful : even if westerners systematically sent observers they would still claim that the results are illegitimate because of the overall process(, which deserve some explanations/debates because our own system is far from perfect, and we’re blending the consequences&causes of the sanctions, etc.). I should have deleted this post like i intended at first once i realized that.\n
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    A few more minutes of research wielded these results :\n
    \n
    - EU won’t send observervation mission in Bangladesh : [thedailystar.net/…/eu-wont-send-observeration-mis…](https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/news/eu-wont-send-observeration-mission-3424326)\n
    - The United States, European Union, France and Japan say they have no plans to send electoral observers or to provide assistance to Cambodia : [rfa.org/…/election-international-observers-033120…](https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/election-international-observers-03312023140751.html)\n
    - The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will not send observers to Russia’s upcoming elections for the first time in nearly three decades : [www.rferl.org/a/…/31393760.html](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-elections-osce-observers/31393760.html)(, “The insistence of the Russian authorities on limiting the number of observers we could send without any clear pandemic-related restrictions has unfortunately made today’s step unavoidable. The OSCE had been invited to observe the Russian elections, but the number of allowed observers was later restricted to 60 due to what Russian authorities cited as the deteriorating pandemic situation in the country. (…) The OSCE had assessed earlier this year that it needed 80 long-term and 420 short-term observers.”)\n
    - The European Union has scrapped plans to send observers to a parliamentary election in Ethiopia next month : [reuters.com/…/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-ele…](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-election-2021-05-04)(, criticism of their official reasons here [euobserver.com/opinion/152293](https://euobserver.com/opinion/152293) : « The International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute sent missions to observe, and the African Union sent 120 observers. Yet the EU decided against sending a delegation, despite promises earlier in the year to do so. (…) The African Union’s observer team has praised the election, as have ambassadors from Sweden and Denmark. », that’s exactly an example of what i’m talking about, with false excuses/pretexts.\n
    \n
    I didn’t write that we refused to send international observers to Russia, but that « i’ve read such suspicions about Russia and Iran, we even showed videos of a ballon in front of the c.c.t.v. for Russia », despite « the reasoning that when you’re so overwhelmingly popular there’s no need to miscount the votes in your favor ».  \n
    It appears that we did send international observers(, until 2021), but my point is that it wasn’t necessary, yet we’re still showing suspicions(, e.g. the balloon in front of a c.c.t.v. to take an example).\n
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    I’d just like to end by saying once again that this whole debate is pointless because it doesn’t change anything in the end, whether we systematically refused to send observers, or always sent them while accusing the whole “democratic” process instead(, it’s apparently in-between, but much more the latter than the former, contrary to what i initially thought).  \n
    I should have deleted this post from the start like i first intended once i realised, in the selftext, that « In the end sanctions would stay in place so it wouldn’t be useful in any way, and doesn’t matter, i should probably delete this post but i’m leaving it in the off-chance that some find an interest in it. »\n
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    Sorry if you felt that i wasted your time.
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    You’re evidently right, but many articles for the 2021 elections(, [1](https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-observers-begin-work-ahead-of-venezuela-elections/), [2](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211119-skeptical-opposition-participating-in-venezuela-regional-elections), [3](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/23/venezuela-recent-elections-an-improvement-over-past-votes-eu), …, including the one cited), said that it has been 15 years since the EU sent observers.\n
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    In any case i would like to emphasised that this debate isn’t useful : even if westerners systematically sent observers they would still claim that the results are illegitimate because of the overall process(, which deserve some explanations/debates because our own system is far from perfect, and we’re blending the consequences&causes of the sanctions, etc.). I should have deleted this post like i intended at first once i realized that.\n
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    A few more minutes of research wielded these results :\n
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    - EU won’t send observervation mission in Bangladesh : [thedailystar.net/…/eu-wont-send-observeration-mis…](https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/news/eu-wont-send-observeration-mission-3424326)\n
    - The United States, European Union, France and Japan say they have no plans to send electoral observers or to provide assistance to Cambodia : [rfa.org/…/election-international-observers-033120…](https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/election-international-observers-03312023140751.html)\n
    - The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will not send observers to Russia’s upcoming elections for the first time in nearly three decades : [www.rferl.org/a/…/31393760.html](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-elections-osce-observers/31393760.html)(, “The insistence of the Russian authorities on limiting the number of observers we could send without any clear pandemic-related restrictions has unfortunately made today’s step unavoidable. The OSCE had been invited to observe the Russian elections, but the number of allowed observers was later restricted to 60 due to what Russian authorities cited as the deteriorating pandemic situation in the country. (…) The OSCE had assessed earlier this year that it needed 80 long-term and 420 short-term observers.”)\n
    - The European Union has scrapped plans to send observers to a parliamentary election in Ethiopia next month : [reuters.com/…/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-ele…](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-election-2021-05-04)(, criticism of their official reasons here [euobserver.com/opinion/152293](https://euobserver.com/opinion/152293) : « The International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute sent missions to observe, and the African Union sent 120 observers. Yet the EU decided against sending a delegation, despite promises earlier in the year to do so. (…) The African Union’s observer team has praised the election, as have ambassadors from Sweden and Denmark. », that’s exactly an example of what i’m talking about, with false excuses/pretexts.\n
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    I didn’t write that we refused to send international observers to Russia, but that « i’ve read such suspicions about Russia and Iran, we even showed videos of a ballon in front of the c.c.t.v. for Russia », despite « the reasoning that when you’re so overwhelmingly popular there’s no need to miscount the votes in your favor ».  \n
    It appears that we did send international observers(, until 2021), but my point is that it wasn’t necessary, yet we’re still showing suspicions(, e.g. the balloon in front of a c.c.t.v. to take an example).\n
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    I’d just like to end by saying once again that this whole debate is pointless because it doesn’t change anything in the end, whether we systematically refused to send observers, or always sent them while accusing the whole “democratic” process instead(, it’s apparently in-between, but much more the latter than the former, contrary to what i initially thought).  \n
    I should have deleted this post from the start like i first intended once i realised, in the selftext, that « In the end sanctions would stay in place so it wouldn’t be useful in any way, and doesn’t matter, i should probably delete this post but i’m leaving it in the off-chance that some find an interest in it. »\n
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    You’re evidently right, but many articles for the 2021 elections(, [1](https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-observers-begin-work-ahead-of-venezuela-elections/), [2](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211119-skeptical-opposition-participating-in-venezuela-regional-elections), [3](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/23/venezuela-recent-elections-an-improvement-over-past-votes-eu), …, including the one cited), said that it has been 15 years since the EU sent observers.\n
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    In any case i would like to emphasised that this debate isn’t useful : even if westerners systematically sent observers they would still claim that the results are illegitimate because of the overall process(, which deserve some explanations/debates because our own system is far from perfect, and we’re blending the consequences&causes of the sanctions, etc.). I should have deleted this post like i intended at first once i realized that.\n
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    A few more minutes of research wielded these results :\n
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    - EU won’t send observervation mission in Bangladesh : [thedailystar.net/…/eu-wont-send-observeration-mis…](https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/news/eu-wont-send-observeration-mission-3424326)\n
    - The United States, European Union, France and Japan say they have no plans to send electoral observers or to provide assistance to Cambodia : [rfa.org/…/election-international-observers-033120…](https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/election-international-observers-03312023140751.html)\n
    - The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will not send observers to Russia’s upcoming elections for the first time in nearly three decades : [www.rferl.org/a/…/31393760.html](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-elections-osce-observers/31393760.html)(, “The insistence of the Russian authorities on limiting the number of observers we could send without any clear pandemic-related restrictions has unfortunately made today’s step unavoidable. The OSCE had been invited to observe the Russian elections, but the number of allowed observers was later restricted to 60 due to what Russian authorities cited as the deteriorating pandemic situation in the country. (…) The OSCE had assessed earlier this year that it needed 80 long-term and 420 short-term observers.”)\n
    - The European Union has scrapped plans to send observers to a parliamentary election in Ethiopia next month : [reuters.com/…/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-ele…](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/eu-scraps-plan-observe-ethiopia-election-2021-05-04)(, criticism of their official reasons here [euobserver.com/opinion/152293](https://euobserver.com/opinion/152293) : « The International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute sent missions to observe, and the African Union sent 120 observers. Yet the EU decided against sending a delegation, despite promises earlier in the year to do so. (…) The African Union’s observer team has praised the election, as have ambassadors from Sweden and Denmark. », that’s exactly an example of what i’m talking about, with false excuses/pretexts.\n
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    I didn’t write that we refused to send international observers to Russia, but that « i’ve read such suspicions about Russia and Iran, we even showed videos of a ballon in front of the c.c.t.v. for Russia », despite « the reasoning that when you’re so overwhelmingly popular there’s no need to miscount the votes in your favor ».  \n
    It appears that we did send international observers(, until 2021), but my point is that it wasn’t necessary, yet we’re still showing suspicions(, e.g. the balloon in front of a c.c.t.v. to take an example).\n
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    I’d just like to end by saying once again that this whole debate is pointless because it doesn’t change anything in the end, whether we systematically refused to send observers, or always sent them while accusing the whole “democratic” process instead(, it’s apparently in-between, but much more the latter than the former, contrary to what i initially thought).  \n
    I should have deleted this post from the start like i first intended once i realised, in the selftext, that « In the end sanctions would stay in place so it wouldn’t be useful in any way, and doesn’t matter, i should probably delete this post but i’m leaving it in the off-chance that some find an interest in it. »\n
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