GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/21947/Installies-a-site-for-managing-organizing-and-retrieving-shell-scripts/comment/219668/favourite…

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.122
Profiled on
Token
372915

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 4.92 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.05 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
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      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    +apDiscoverable: true
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  +body: """
    You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
    \n
    Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
    \n
    ### Script Voting\n
    \n
    The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
    \n
    Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
    \n
    Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
    \n
    ### User Reputation\n
    \n
    This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
    \n
    ### Collaboration\n
    \n
    Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
    \n
    None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
    \n
    I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1394
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  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1810 …}
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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  +root: null
  +body: """
    You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
    \n
    Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
    \n
    ### Script Voting\n
    \n
    The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
    \n
    Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
    \n
    Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
    \n
    ### User Reputation\n
    \n
    This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
    \n
    ### Collaboration\n
    \n
    Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
    \n
    None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
    \n
    I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1394
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  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1810 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#313
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
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    You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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    Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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    The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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    Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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    Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
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    This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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    Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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    None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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    I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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