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Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.122
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Token
3e12dc

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.62 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2082
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2085 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3052 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3054 …}
  +slug: "Hot-take"
  +title: "Hot take"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/08d52ba8-7298-44ca-816f-ceb93cfd3c6a.png"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 251
  +favouriteCount: 1567
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729308968 {#3047
    date: 2024-10-19 05:36:08.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3055 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3057 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3059 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3061 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3063 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3065 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2083
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2082 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2085 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        I agree with that take until…\n
        \n
        The “what you go for it’s entirely your choice” mantra when it comes to DE is total BS. What happens is that you’ll find out while you can use any DE in fact GNOME will provide a better experience because most applications on Linux are design / depend on its components. Using KDE/XFCE is fun until you run into some GTK/libadwaita application and small issues start to pop here and there, windows that don’t pick on your theme or you just created a frankenstein of a system composed by KDE + a bunch of GTK components;
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 6
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1727428005 {#2076
        date: 2024-09-27 11:06:45.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@SchrodingersPat@lemmy.ml"
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      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2080 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2089 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2095 …}
      -id: 328940
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/6890994"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705861931 {#2097
        date: 2024-01-21 19:32:11.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 328940
    }
  ]
  -id: 32071
  -titleTs: "'hot':1 'take':2"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705892261
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10826689"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705805861 {#3034
    date: 2024-01-21 03:57:41.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2082
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3013 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2085 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3052 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3054 …}
  +slug: "Hot-take"
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  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/08d52ba8-7298-44ca-816f-ceb93cfd3c6a.png"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 251
  +favouriteCount: 1567
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729308968 {#3047
    date: 2024-10-19 05:36:08.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3055 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3057 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3059 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3061 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3063 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3065 …}
  +children: [
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      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
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        I agree with that take until…\n
        \n
        The “what you go for it’s entirely your choice” mantra when it comes to DE is total BS. What happens is that you’ll find out while you can use any DE in fact GNOME will provide a better experience because most applications on Linux are design / depend on its components. Using KDE/XFCE is fun until you run into some GTK/libadwaita application and small issues start to pop here and there, windows that don’t pick on your theme or you just created a frankenstein of a system composed by KDE + a bunch of GTK components;
        """
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 6
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1727428005 {#2076
        date: 2024-09-27 11:06:45.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
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      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2080 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2089 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2095 …}
      -id: 328940
      -bodyTs: "'agre':2 'applic':50,69 'better':46 'bs':25 'bunch':100 'choic':16 'come':20 'compon':58,103 'compos':96 'creat':90 'de':22,39 'depend':55 'design':54 'entir':14 'experi':47 'fact':41 'find':32 'frankenstein':92 'fun':62 'gnome':42 'go':10 'gtk':102 'gtk/libadwaita':68 'happen':27 'issu':72 'kde':98 'kde/xfce':60 'linux':52 'll':31 'mantra':17 'pick':83 'pop':75 'provid':44 'run':65 'small':71 'start':73 'system':95 'take':5 'theme':86 'total':24 'use':37,59 'window':79"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/6890994"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705861931 {#2097
        date: 2024-01-21 19:32:11.0 +01:00
      }
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  -titleTs: "'hot':1 'take':2"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705892261
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10826689"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705805861 {#3034
    date: 2024-01-21 03:57:41.0 +01:00
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   …2
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2082
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  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3052 …}
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  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 251
  +favouriteCount: 1567
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729308968 {#3047
    date: 2024-10-19 05:36:08.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3057 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3059 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3061 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3063 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3065 …}
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      +image: null
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      +root: null
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        I agree with that take until…\n
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        The “what you go for it’s entirely your choice” mantra when it comes to DE is total BS. What happens is that you’ll find out while you can use any DE in fact GNOME will provide a better experience because most applications on Linux are design / depend on its components. Using KDE/XFCE is fun until you run into some GTK/libadwaita application and small issues start to pop here and there, windows that don’t pick on your theme or you just created a frankenstein of a system composed by KDE + a bunch of GTK components;
        """
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 6
      +score: 0
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        date: 2024-09-27 11:06:45.0 +02:00
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
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      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2089 …}
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        date: 2024-01-21 19:32:11.0 +01:00
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  +editedAt: null
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
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    +ranking: 1705892261
    +visibility: "visible             "
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    +editedAt: null
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  +body: """
    I agree with that take until…\n
    \n
    The “what you go for it’s entirely your choice” mantra when it comes to DE is total BS. What happens is that you’ll find out while you can use any DE in fact GNOME will provide a better experience because most applications on Linux are design / depend on its components. Using KDE/XFCE is fun until you run into some GTK/libadwaita application and small issues start to pop here and there, windows that don’t pick on your theme or you just created a frankenstein of a system composed by KDE + a bunch of GTK components;
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
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        I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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        Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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        If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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        Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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        Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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        > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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        This isn’t true.\n
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        - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
        - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
        - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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        Either way, quick math, on a 7W range were talking about less than 10$/year to run the device.
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    I dunno when it happened but I swear SBCs were the *new best thing* in the universe for a while and everyone was building cool little servers with their RockPis and OrangePis.\n
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    Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox with everyone shitting on Arm. What happened? What gives?\n
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    Is my small army of xPis pointless? What about my 2 Edge routers?\n
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    I’ve got about 6 xPis scattered round my flat - is there anything worth doing with them or should I just bin them?\n
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          Either way, Pis have their use cases however in my opinion it was an overhyped product that sits on the middle of a market:\n
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          - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
          - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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          > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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          Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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        I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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        Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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        If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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        Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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        > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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        This isn’t true.\n
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        - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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    I dunno when it happened but I swear SBCs were the *new best thing* in the universe for a while and everyone was building cool little servers with their RockPis and OrangePis.\n
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
          - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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          > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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          Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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        I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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        Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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        If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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        Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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        Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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        > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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        This isn’t true.\n
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        - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
          - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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          The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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      I dunno when it happened but I swear SBCs were the *new best thing* in the universe for a while and everyone was building cool little servers with their RockPis and OrangePis.\n
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      Is my small army of xPis pointless? What about my 2 Edge routers?\n
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      I’ve got about 6 xPis scattered round my flat - is there anything worth doing with them or should I just bin them?\n
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      All thoughts, feelings and information welcome. Thank you.
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
          - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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          > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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          Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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      I dunno when it happened but I swear SBCs were the *new best thing* in the universe for a while and everyone was building cool little servers with their RockPis and OrangePis.\n
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      Is my small army of xPis pointless? What about my 2 Edge routers?\n
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      I’ve got about 6 xPis scattered round my flat - is there anything worth doing with them or should I just bin them?\n
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          What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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          > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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          - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
          - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
          - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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          > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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          Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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          - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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    > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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    - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
    - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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    > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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    Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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    The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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        +body: "I would agree to a certain point. If you get a 10th gen CPU it is power efficient and there are a lot of gamers and whatnot selling those. Also there are a lot of MiniPCs that come with mobile “T” CPU that are very decent at idle."
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
          - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
          - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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    > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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    - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
    - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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    > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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    Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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    The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
          - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
          - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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    > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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    - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
    - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
    - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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    > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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    Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
    \n
    The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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            Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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            The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
          - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
          - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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    Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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    If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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    Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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    Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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            What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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            > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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            - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
            - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
            - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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            > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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            Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
          - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
          - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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    Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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    If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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    Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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    Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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            What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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            > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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            - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
            - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
            - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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            Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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          > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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          This isn’t true.\n
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          - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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    I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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    Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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    If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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    Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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    Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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    > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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    This isn’t true.\n
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    - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
    - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
    - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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    Either way, quick math, on a 7W range were talking about less than 10$/year to run the device.
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      I dunno when it happened but I swear SBCs were the *new best thing* in the universe for a while and everyone was building cool little servers with their RockPis and OrangePis.\n
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            What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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            > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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            - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
            - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
            - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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            > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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            Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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            The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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          Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.
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    > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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    This isn’t true.\n
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    - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
    - Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W\n
    - Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W\n
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            What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: [lemmy.world/comment/5357961](https://lemmy.world/comment/5357961) , [lemmy.world/comment/4696545](https://lemmy.world/comment/4696545)\n
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            > For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.\n
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            - They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.\n
            - Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;\n
            - Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.\n
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            > Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox\n
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            Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: [lemmy.world/comment/6507871](https://lemmy.world/comment/6507871). FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.\n
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            The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.
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          I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.\n
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          Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.\n
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          If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use [www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/) to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.\n
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          Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.\n
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    > But idle still would run much more than 15w\n
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    This isn’t true.\n
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    - HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > [idles at 4.5W](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10h7acb/hp_prodesk_400_g5_super_low_power_consumption/)\n
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        Yeah I get your thing with LXD and Canonical. I’ve been moving a ton of clusters to Incus because of the obvious reasons and I’m happy with it, obviously the fact that the original people who made LXD on Canonical are now working on Incus is a big plus.\n
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        Agreed. That’s mostly BS from people who make commissions from some vendor.\n
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    > #2 is strange – why does it matter? If one is hosting a webserver on port 80, for example, they are going to poke a hole in their router’s NAT at port 80 to open that server’s port to the public. What difference does it make to then have another firewall that needs to be port forwarded?\n
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    I have a unused RPi4 (the 8Gig one) running DietPi. I did use it as a playground but ever since I am renting a Hetzner machine for (playground) stuff that I want web accessible, I don’t have particular use for the Pi.\n
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        > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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        I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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        So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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        > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
        \n
        The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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        > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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        Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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        > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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        Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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        > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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        The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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        Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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        So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.
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    This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.\n
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    I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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    With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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    > Oh, what the hell. I’ll primary Ubuntu and when I need to use Windows I’ll run it on a thumb drive or something.\n
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    Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
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    I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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        > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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        I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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        > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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        So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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        > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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        I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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        > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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        The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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        > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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        Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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        > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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        Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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        > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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        The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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        Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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        So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.
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    This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.\n
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    I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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    With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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        > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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        I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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        > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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        So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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        > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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        I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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        > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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        The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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        > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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        Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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        Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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        > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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        The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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        Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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          > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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    > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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    So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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    > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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    I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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    Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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          > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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          The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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          > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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          Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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          Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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          > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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          The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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    > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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    So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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    > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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    I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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    Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.
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      This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.\n
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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      With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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      Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
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      I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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          > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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          The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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          > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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          Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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          Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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          > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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          The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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    > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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    So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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    I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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          The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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      With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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          Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.
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          > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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          The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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          > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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          Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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          > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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          The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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      This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.\n
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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      With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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      I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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          Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.
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          > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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          > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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          Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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          > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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          The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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          Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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    > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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    The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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    Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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    The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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    Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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    > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
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    The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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    > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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    Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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    > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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    The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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    Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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      With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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      Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
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          > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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          I don’t get this kinds of comments.\n
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          > I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,\n
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          So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.\n
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          > I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window\n
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          I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.\n
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          Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.
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    > I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.\n
    \n
    The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.\n
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    > Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.\n
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    Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.\n
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    > realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,\n
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    Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:\n
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    > Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).\n
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    The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.\n
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    Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this ([…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services)) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.\n
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    So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.
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    - There will be a NAS device hosting VMs with services accessible only from the home network: \n
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        - The Recipes will connect to Home Wks\n
        - The Data Archive will connect to Home Wks\n
        - Jellybean will connect to: \n
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            - TV\n
        - *arr Stack will connect to: \n
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    - 1gbs Unmaged Switch\n
    - QNAS with 2x2.5gbs NIC, running TrueNas\n
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    My Main questions relate to the Firewall. It seems that pfsense is the way to go for a SW Firewall:\n
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    - What do you think of Netgear 1100?\n
    - I like this device since 3ports would allow me to create a physically separate DMZ\n
    - Should I consider other firewalls?\n
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    - My TrueNas has 2x2.5Gb ports. Can i connect each NIC to a different network? Would this have any benefit?\n
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        If you’ve an OpenWRT compatible router why are you thinking about pfsense? There isn’t much to gain there, your OpenWRT will do NAT and also has a firewall.\n
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        > I like this device since 3ports would allow me to create a physically separate DMZ\n
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        OpenWRT can do this as well. What are your plans with the DMZ tho?\n
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        Be careful with the use of the acronym DMZ as in the context of typical routers and ISPs it has a different meaning of what you’re implying here. DMZ usually is used in the context for a single host that is “outside” the ISP router’s firewall and all requests coming into the ISP router will be forward to that device.\n
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        You can, but is it really worth it? If someone hacks the device they’ll access the rest of the network. Same applies to your computers and cames consoles, they can be used to jump to the other side and vice versa.\n
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    All the cool projects I see while lurking around here have thrown me into the world of Self-Hosting! Some months ago I got myself a NAS, flashed it with TrueNAS and started playing. Today, I am ready to face the creation of my first homelab.\n
    \n
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    If you’ve an OpenWRT compatible router why are you thinking about pfsense? There isn’t much to gain there, your OpenWRT will do NAT and also has a firewall.\n
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    > I like this device since 3ports would allow me to create a physically separate DMZ\n
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    Be careful with the use of the acronym DMZ as in the context of typical routers and ISPs it has a different meaning of what you’re implying here. DMZ usually is used in the context for a single host that is “outside” the ISP router’s firewall and all requests coming into the ISP router will be forward to that device.\n
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      All the cool projects I see while lurking around here have thrown me into the world of Self-Hosting! Some months ago I got myself a NAS, flashed it with TrueNAS and started playing. Today, I am ready to face the creation of my first homelab.\n
      \n
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      I’d like to create the standard network with a DMZ. Within the network, I plan to use VLANS to manage traffic between devices, and the firewall to limit internet access.\n
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      - There will be a NAS device hosting VMs with services accessible only from the home network: \n
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          - The Recipes will connect to Home Wks\n
          - The Data Archive will connect to Home Wks\n
          - Jellybean will connect to: \n
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              - TV\n
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      - What do you think of Netgear 1100?\n
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    If you’ve an OpenWRT compatible router why are you thinking about pfsense? There isn’t much to gain there, your OpenWRT will do NAT and also has a firewall.\n
    \n
    > I like this device since 3ports would allow me to create a physically separate DMZ\n
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    OpenWRT can do this as well. What are your plans with the DMZ tho?\n
    \n
    Be careful with the use of the acronym DMZ as in the context of typical routers and ISPs it has a different meaning of what you’re implying here. DMZ usually is used in the context for a single host that is “outside” the ISP router’s firewall and all requests coming into the ISP router will be forward to that device.\n
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    > With my current diagram, it seems like it is not possible for the NAS to receive updates from the internet.\n
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    You NAS will never “receive updates” it will *ask* for updates. Maybe add a firewall rule that allows traffic from the NAS to the internet but not the other way around (this is usually the default state of any router, it will allow local devices to go to the internet but not incoming connections to those devices).\n
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    > My TrueNas has 2x2.5Gb ports. Can i connect each NIC to a different network? Would this have any benefit?\n
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    You can, but is it really worth it? If someone hacks the device they’ll access the rest of the network. Same applies to your computers and cames consoles, they can be used to jump to the other side and vice versa.\n
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    Frankly I don’t see the usefulness of your setup as you’ll end up with weak points somewhere. Just get a single OpenWRT router and throw everything into the same network. Apply firewall restrictions as needed.
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      All the cool projects I see while lurking around here have thrown me into the world of Self-Hosting! Some months ago I got myself a NAS, flashed it with TrueNAS and started playing. Today, I am ready to face the creation of my first homelab.\n
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      Since I got the basic data storage working, I decided to continue with the Firewall setup. I’d like to have my security figured out before I start spinning up machines, playing with their configs and unwittingly opening all kind of arcane doors to the unknown. So I turn to the Fediverse!\n
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      - What do you think of Netgear 1100?\n
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      - My TrueNas has 2x2.5Gb ports. Can i connect each NIC to a different network? Would this have any benefit?\n
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    If you’ve an OpenWRT compatible router why are you thinking about pfsense? There isn’t much to gain there, your OpenWRT will do NAT and also has a firewall.\n
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    > I like this device since 3ports would allow me to create a physically separate DMZ\n
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    > My TrueNas has 2x2.5Gb ports. Can i connect each NIC to a different network? Would this have any benefit?\n
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    \n
    Frankly I don’t see the usefulness of your setup as you’ll end up with weak points somewhere. Just get a single OpenWRT router and throw everything into the same network. Apply firewall restrictions as needed.
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    cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/11162262](https://lemmy.world/post/11162262)\n
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    > For all of you that are running proper setups and use nftables to protect your servers be aware that `pvxe/nftables-geoip` now has the ability to generate IP lists by country.\n
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    > Here’s how you can block / track traffic from certain countries:\n
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    > - [wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/…/GeoIP_matching](https://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/GeoIP_matching)\n
    > - [www.mybluelinux.com/nftables-and-geoip](https://www.mybluelinux.com/nftables-and-geoip)\n
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    > Previously you had to load the entire geoip DB containing multiple GB and would end up using a LOT of RAM. Those guides aren’t yet updated to use the country specific files but it’s just about changing the `include` line to whatever you’ve generated with `pvxe/nftables-geoip`.
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