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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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So:\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I’m pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I’m repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.\n
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I am pro-choice.\n
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I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately if you’re looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it’s the same as someone saying to you “citizens who don’t want to murder can just… not murder people. Like, that’s not that hard. We don’t need laws against murdering people though”\n
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Required reading: [“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
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Yes, thank you.\n
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Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It’s not enough to just say “no it’s not” or make really *any* argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.\n
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No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it’s due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there’s no curing necessary. But they’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that it is. It’s the same level of worldview solidification.
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No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who *does* want them, since the majority do not.\n
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Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
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You say it causes no harm to society but they’ll argue it causes immense harm to God’s plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It’s a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn’t abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it’s going to get for their hypothetical children.\n
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My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.
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I think you’re zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.\n
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But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren’t being born, the class war will get *seriously real*, and that’s the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.
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+body: "ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page."
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> I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.\n
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They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.\n
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There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
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I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.\n
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> whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
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That’s crazy! When I was last trying to run Linux full time in ~2014, you had WINE and then a commercial version of WINE (not by the WINE devs, but because WINE is licensed the way it is and is open source…) that would run a few more things, but I don’t remember what it was called.\n
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So glad to hear it’s progressing this quickly and far.
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