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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.86 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.05 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
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  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      \n
      4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [!asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/asklemmyafterdark) or [!asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com](https://lemmynsfw.com/c/asklemmynsfw). NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].\n
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      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1546
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      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ![](https://img.shields.io/lemmy/asklemmy%40lemmy.world?logo=lemmy&label=Total%20Subscribers)
      """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1546
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      A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
      -----------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Rules: (interactive)**\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. [Please familiarize yourself with them](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ![](https://img.shields.io/lemmy/asklemmy%40lemmy.world?logo=lemmy&label=Total%20Subscribers)
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        The logic is sound, but as you extend the idea, the group starts selling access to their doctor, and you basically pay a subscription for a doctor, and then you just have insurance by another name. It wouldn’t be corrupt like modern insurance, but that’s just because it’s new, not because it won’t get there, unless specific steps are taken to prevent that.\n
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        Here’s the problem. Let’s say you have a doctor club, where everyone pays the same amount regardless of how often they use the doctor. For people who need the doctor a lot, that’s great. They pay a lot less than they would if they had to pay per visit. For people who just need one checkup a year, they end up paying a lot more than if they just paid for their annual checkup. And they would quickly figure that out, and drop out of the program.\n
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    I feel like the cafeteria is the best scenario, because there isn’t an imbalance of needs like this. Pay a flat fee per year and get a lunch every day, or every work day, or whatever. Economy of scale would mean that it would save the subscribers money.\n
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              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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          No. Not even close. I pay 100 dollars a month for insurance.\n
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      Or the employer would have to pay more to balance the system.\n
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    Yeah they were trying to keep it cost neutral. Bennett was a conservative republican.\n
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            No. Not even close. I pay 100 dollars a month for insurance.\n
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                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            No. Not even close. I pay 100 dollars a month for insurance.\n
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                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            No. Not even close. I pay 100 dollars a month for insurance.\n
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        Or the employer would have to pay more to balance the system.\n
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      Yeah they were trying to keep it cost neutral. Bennett was a conservative republican.\n
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    CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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      +body: "250 dollar deductible. 20-dollar co-pay for specialist. 2250 out pf pocket max. Coinsurance 10%. Emergency room 100 dollars"
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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      +body: "250 dollar deductible. 20-dollar co-pay for specialist. 2250 out pf pocket max. Coinsurance 10%. Emergency room 100 dollars"
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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    If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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    If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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            +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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    People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                    +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                  Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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          Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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      Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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    It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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    Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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          Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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      Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                    +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                  Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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        People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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    Then cite something.\n
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    [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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    Then cite something.\n
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    [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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              It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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        People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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    Then cite something.\n
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    [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                      I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                      Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                  +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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              CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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              Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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            If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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            If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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          Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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          People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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        It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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        United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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        Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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      Then cite something.\n
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      [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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      Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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      You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                      I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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              CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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            If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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          Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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        It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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      Then cite something.\n
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                All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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              CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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              Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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            If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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            If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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          Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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        It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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      Then cite something.\n
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                          +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                        +body: "I want universal healthcare. I was thinking about this since maybe a town or community could actually get something in place while nationwide universal healthcare seems decades away in the U.S."
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                        I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                        Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                    +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                  +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                  All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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              If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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              If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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            Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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            People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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          It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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          United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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          Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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        Then cite something.\n
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        [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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        Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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        You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                        I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                        Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                    +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                  All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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              If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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              If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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            Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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            People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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          It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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          Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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        Then cite something.\n
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        Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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        You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                        I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                  All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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              If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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              If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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            Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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            People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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          It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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        Then cite something.\n
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        [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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        Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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        You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                            +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                          Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                    It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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              People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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          Then cite something.\n
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          [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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          Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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          You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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          Then cite something.\n
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          Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                          +body: "I want universal healthcare. I was thinking about this since maybe a town or community could actually get something in place while nationwide universal healthcare seems decades away in the U.S."
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                          Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                    It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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              People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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          Then cite something.\n
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          [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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          Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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          You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                            +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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              People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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          Then cite something.\n
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          Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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          You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                          Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                    It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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              People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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          Then cite something.\n
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          [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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          Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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          You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                            +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                          I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                          Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                      +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                    +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                    All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                    It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                  CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                  Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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              Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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              People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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            It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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            United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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            Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                      All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                      It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                    CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                    Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                  If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                  If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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              It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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              United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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              Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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            Then cite something.\n
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            [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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            Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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            You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                              +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                            I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                            Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                        +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                      +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                      All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                      It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                    CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                    Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                  If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                  If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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              It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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              United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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              Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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            Then cite something.\n
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            Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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            You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                      All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                      It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                    CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                    Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                  If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                  If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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              It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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              United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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              Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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            Then cite something.\n
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            [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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            Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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            You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                                +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                              Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                          +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                        +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                        It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                      Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                    If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                    If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                  Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                  People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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              Then cite something.\n
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              Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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              You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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    I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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                              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                              Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                          +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                        +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                        It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                      Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                    If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                    If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                  Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                  People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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              Then cite something.\n
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              [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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              Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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              You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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    I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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                                +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                              I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                              Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                          +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                        All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                        It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                      CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                      Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                    If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                  Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                  People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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              Then cite something.\n
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              [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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              Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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              You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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    I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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                                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                +body: "I want universal healthcare. I was thinking about this since maybe a town or community could actually get something in place while nationwide universal healthcare seems decades away in the U.S."
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                                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                            +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                          +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                          It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                      If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                    People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                  It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                  United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                  Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                Then cite something.\n
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                [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                            +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                          +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                          It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                      If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                    People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                  It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                  United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                  Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                Then cite something.\n
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                [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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      I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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      Single payer is cheaper than what we currently spend in the usa on health care. Period.
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                                  +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                            +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                          All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                          It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                      If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                      If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                    Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                    People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                  It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                  United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                  Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                Then cite something.\n
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                [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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      I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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                                    +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                  Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                              +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                            +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                            It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                          Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                      Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                      People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                    It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                    United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                    Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                  Then cite something.\n
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                  [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                  Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                  You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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                                  +body: "I want universal healthcare. I was thinking about this since maybe a town or community could actually get something in place while nationwide universal healthcare seems decades away in the U.S."
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                                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                  Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                              +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                            +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                            It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                          Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
                        \n
                        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                      Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                      People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                    It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                    United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                    Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                  Then cite something.\n
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                  [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                  Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                  You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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        I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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    +body: "It isn’t. You keep saying that but nobody agrees with you. I gave a cite that showed the democrats plans and all cost more. None show it being cheaper."
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    Dozens of studies suggest you are wrong.\n
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    You don’t know what you’re talking about
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                                  I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                              +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                            All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                            It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                          CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                          Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                        If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                        If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                      Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                      People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                    It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                    United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                    Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                  Then cite something.\n
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                  [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                  Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                  You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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        I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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        Single payer is cheaper than what we currently spend in the usa on health care. Period.
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    Dozens of studies suggest you are wrong.\n
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    You don’t know what you’re talking about
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                                      +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                                +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                              +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                              It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                        People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                      United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                      Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                    Then cite something.\n
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                    [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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          I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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          Single payer is cheaper than what we currently spend in the usa on health care. Period.
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      Dozens of studies suggest you are wrong.\n
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      You don’t know what you’re talking about
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    Yet keep babbling but have yet cite Anything. I three different plans evaluated by an economist who weighs their economic impact.\n
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                                      +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                                +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                              +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                              It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                        People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                      United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                      Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                    Then cite something.\n
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                    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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          I don’t obfuscating the point. Neither you or I will be writing the damn single payer legislation. I’m not going to argue about random semantics.\n
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      Dozens of studies suggest you are wrong.\n
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    Yet keep babbling but have yet cite Anything. I three different plans evaluated by an economist who weighs their economic impact.\n
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                                      +body: "This is single payer healthcare. Instead of the drama and cost of a million little co-ops of a few hundred people making doctor patterns Patreons there’s just one tax collection arm and one payer arm."
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                                    +body: "I want universal healthcare. I was thinking about this since maybe a town or community could actually get something in place while nationwide universal healthcare seems decades away in the U.S."
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                                    I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.\n
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                                    Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country
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                                +body: "You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway"
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                              +body: "You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that."
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                              All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.\n
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                              It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying
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                            CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.\n
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                            Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.
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                          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.\n
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                          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it
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                        Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.\n
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                        People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.
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                      It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.\n
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                      United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.\n
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                      Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.
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                    Then cite something.\n
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                    [rpc.senate.gov/…/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fe…](https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/medicare-for-all-higher-taxes-fewer-choices-longer-lines)\n
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                    Here is a cite using the Democrat Medicare for all numbers. gasp! It shows 20% like all the other cites I have seen.\n
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                    You are the only one lying about cost. Your claim is that it will cost be less and it won’t. It won’t cost anyone less unless they don’t pay taxes. Otherwise, it will cost them more.
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    Sure, if we can get universal let’s do it. Don’t have to sell me on it being better.\n
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    Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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    You’ll need someone to administer the program, so you have to give them some power over your money. That means they’d need the power to say “no” to people who are seeking healthcare resources for invalid reasons–things like Munchausen’s syndrome at first, but eventually they’d have to make calls about things that people actually need but can’t *prove* they need, just like health insurance does now.\n
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    The biggest problem, of course, is that existing health insurance would fight it like penicillin fights bacteria. They have had decades to do regulatory capture in their benefit, and if another group comes along that’s almost-but-not-quite health insurance, they’re going to make sure that the regulations they captured keep it from going anywhere, up to the point of trying to make it explicitly illegal.\n
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    I think we’re in agreement about single payer, but this ^ is how it benefits us. The government has actual power to fight corruption and isn’t beholden to capital. Now if we only had a way to create a just government.
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    Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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    Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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    You’ll need someone to administer the program, so you have to give them some power over your money. That means they’d need the power to say “no” to people who are seeking healthcare resources for invalid reasons–things like Munchausen’s syndrome at first, but eventually they’d have to make calls about things that people actually need but can’t *prove* they need, just like health insurance does now.\n
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    If you *don’t* want do these things, I guarantee your neighbors will insist they be done (ever hung out on nextdoor? those are the people you’ll be pooling your money with). And you’ll go along, because it’s a hassle not to, and hey at least you’re getting your needs taken care of most of the time. If you manage to keep your program free of capitalist influences, you’re going to have to fight corruption instead: “Slip me some dough and I’ll make sure you get seen next.”\n
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    So in time you just end up with health insurance, and most of its flaws, if you don’t very carefully watch the people administering your program, if you don’t very carefully fight against the perverse incentives.\n
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    The biggest problem, of course, is that existing health insurance would fight it like penicillin fights bacteria. They have had decades to do regulatory capture in their benefit, and if another group comes along that’s almost-but-not-quite health insurance, they’re going to make sure that the regulations they captured keep it from going anywhere, up to the point of trying to make it explicitly illegal.\n
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    I think we’re in agreement about single payer, but this ^ is how it benefits us. The government has actual power to fight corruption and isn’t beholden to capital. Now if we only had a way to create a just government.
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      Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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      You’ll need someone to administer the program, so you have to give them some power over your money. That means they’d need the power to say “no” to people who are seeking healthcare resources for invalid reasons–things like Munchausen’s syndrome at first, but eventually they’d have to make calls about things that people actually need but can’t *prove* they need, just like health insurance does now.\n
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      If you *don’t* want do these things, I guarantee your neighbors will insist they be done (ever hung out on nextdoor? those are the people you’ll be pooling your money with). And you’ll go along, because it’s a hassle not to, and hey at least you’re getting your needs taken care of most of the time. If you manage to keep your program free of capitalist influences, you’re going to have to fight corruption instead: “Slip me some dough and I’ll make sure you get seen next.”\n
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      So in time you just end up with health insurance, and most of its flaws, if you don’t very carefully watch the people administering your program, if you don’t very carefully fight against the perverse incentives.\n
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      The biggest problem, of course, is that existing health insurance would fight it like penicillin fights bacteria. They have had decades to do regulatory capture in their benefit, and if another group comes along that’s almost-but-not-quite health insurance, they’re going to make sure that the regulations they captured keep it from going anywhere, up to the point of trying to make it explicitly illegal.\n
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      I think we’re in agreement about single payer, but this ^ is how it benefits us. The government has actual power to fight corruption and isn’t beholden to capital. Now if we only had a way to create a just government.
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    Not saying it would work, but what I’m describing is more bite size than a full health system. So if a group only committed to “everyone gets to see a general practitioner” then people are on their own for MRIs and chemo. Figure out how many patients a type of practitioner can handle in a year, then pool that many people to hire one. Same idea for any other role, like how many cars can one mechanic fix a year?\n
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      Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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    Not saying it would work, but what I’m describing is more bite size than a full health system. So if a group only committed to “everyone gets to see a general practitioner” then people are on their own for MRIs and chemo. Figure out how many patients a type of practitioner can handle in a year, then pool that many people to hire one. Same idea for any other role, like how many cars can one mechanic fix a year?\n
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      Reading into your intention, this is actually more like *health insurance* than single payer healthcare. Not quite a million little coops, more like a few dozen. And it would end up having most of the same problems of modern US health insurance.\n
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      You’ll need someone to administer the program, so you have to give them some power over your money. That means they’d need the power to say “no” to people who are seeking healthcare resources for invalid reasons–things like Munchausen’s syndrome at first, but eventually they’d have to make calls about things that people actually need but can’t *prove* they need, just like health insurance does now.\n
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      If you *don’t* want do these things, I guarantee your neighbors will insist they be done (ever hung out on nextdoor? those are the people you’ll be pooling your money with). And you’ll go along, because it’s a hassle not to, and hey at least you’re getting your needs taken care of most of the time. If you manage to keep your program free of capitalist influences, you’re going to have to fight corruption instead: “Slip me some dough and I’ll make sure you get seen next.”\n
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      The biggest problem, of course, is that existing health insurance would fight it like penicillin fights bacteria. They have had decades to do regulatory capture in their benefit, and if another group comes along that’s almost-but-not-quite health insurance, they’re going to make sure that the regulations they captured keep it from going anywhere, up to the point of trying to make it explicitly illegal.\n
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    Not saying it would work, but what I’m describing is more bite size than a full health system. So if a group only committed to “everyone gets to see a general practitioner” then people are on their own for MRIs and chemo. Figure out how many patients a type of practitioner can handle in a year, then pool that many people to hire one. Same idea for any other role, like how many cars can one mechanic fix a year?\n
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