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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
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  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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      - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!self sufficiency@mander.xyz](/c/self-sufficiency@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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      =========================================\n
      \n
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      \n
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      ---\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      Research Committee\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Science and Research\n
      \n
      - [!academia@mander.xyz](/c/academia@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!mycology@mander.xyz](/c/mycology@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!plants@mander.xyz](/c/plants@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
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    Everybody asks what is god, why is god… Nobody asks how is god.\n
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    Everybody asks what is god, why is god… Nobody asks how is god.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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        The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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        The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
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        The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
     Omnipotence: It literally is what drives stuff to happen.  \n
     Omnipresence: It is present to some degree in all things everywhere for all time, though you could argue about vacuum.  \n
     Omniscience: See omnipresence, although having knowledge implies some level of consciousness, which is pretty debatable. My psychedelic phase tells me that it’s totally a thing, but I’ll be the first to admit that’s not a rational argument.  \n
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        The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
     Omnipotence: It literally is what drives stuff to happen.  \n
     Omnipresence: It is present to some degree in all things everywhere for all time, though you could argue about vacuum.  \n
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      On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
       Omnipotence: It literally is what drives stuff to happen.  \n
       Omnipresence: It is present to some degree in all things everywhere for all time, though you could argue about vacuum.  \n
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          The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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      On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
       Omnipotence: It literally is what drives stuff to happen.  \n
       Omnipresence: It is present to some degree in all things everywhere for all time, though you could argue about vacuum.  \n
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          The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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      On the contrary, I’d argue energy mostly meets many of the philosophical criteria for God.  \n
       Omnipotence: It literally is what drives stuff to happen.  \n
       Omnipresence: It is present to some degree in all things everywhere for all time, though you could argue about vacuum.  \n
       Omniscience: See omnipresence, although having knowledge implies some level of consciousness, which is pretty debatable. My psychedelic phase tells me that it’s totally a thing, but I’ll be the first to admit that’s not a rational argument.  \n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    If I remember correctly from my hazy years of school philosophy classes, it was Thomas Aquinas who suggested it. Who was a friar, so that’s why the assumption of the religion.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    If I remember correctly from my hazy years of school philosophy classes, it was Thomas Aquinas who suggested it. Who was a friar, so that’s why the assumption of the religion.\n
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    Also, I understood the core idea being that God isn’t what IS the beginning, but that the point where human mind can’t comprehend beyond is God. Which, back then, and even now, I considered to be a lazy copout for a philosopher, as the point of a philosopher is to test the limits of our understanding.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    If I remember correctly from my hazy years of school philosophy classes, it was Thomas Aquinas who suggested it. Who was a friar, so that’s why the assumption of the religion.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    It’s also a bad argument, because the concept of things being ‘created’ is an entirely human one. It’s us who decided that if a pile of pre-existing atoms are moved into the shape of a chair, we’ll say that chair was ‘created’.\n
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    It’s also a bad argument, because the concept of things being ‘created’ is an entirely human one. It’s us who decided that if a pile of pre-existing atoms are moved into the shape of a chair, we’ll say that chair was ‘created’.\n
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      The argument I’ve heard is “It must stop somewhere, and whatever it stops at, we’ll call that god”. It’s not a good argument, because it then hopes that you conflate the Judeo-Christian deity with that label and make a whole bunch of assumptions.\n
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    It’s also a bad argument, because the concept of things being ‘created’ is an entirely human one. It’s us who decided that if a pile of pre-existing atoms are moved into the shape of a chair, we’ll say that chair was ‘created’.\n
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    It’s nothing to do with statistics, “just” logic. But most people find that it starts to feel like maths real quick.\n
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    It’s nothing to do with statistics, “just” logic. But most people find that it starts to feel like maths real quick.\n
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