GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@TCB13@lemmy.world/active?p=6

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.122
Profiled on
Token
518d31

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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  -options: [
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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  +title: "Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex..."
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    Image shows a tweet with the header “and people STILL try to convince me Linux and Windows are better when the DATA clearly shows otherwise. SMH” with an image attached showing the following:\n
    \n
    “Operating systems by current version” Mac OS: 14 Windows: 11 Linux: 6
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      +body: """
        I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
        \n
        > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
        \n
        While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
        \n
        Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
        \n
        > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
        \n
        You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
        \n
        > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
        \n
        I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
        \n
        > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
        \n
        That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
        \n
        > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
        \n
        I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
        \n
        > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
        \n
        Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
        \n
        > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
        \n
        This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
        \n
        > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
        \n
        Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
        \n
        > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
        \n
        **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
        \n
        At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
        \n
        All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
        \n
        > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
        \n
        And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
        """
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        > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
        \n
        Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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        > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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        Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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        If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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        That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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        Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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        I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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        > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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        While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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        Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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        > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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        You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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        > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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        I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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        > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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        That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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        > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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        I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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        > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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        Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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        > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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        This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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        > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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        Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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        > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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        **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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        At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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        All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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        > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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        And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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        > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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        Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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        > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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        Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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        If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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        That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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        Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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        I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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        > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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        While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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        Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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        > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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        You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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        > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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        I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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        > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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        That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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        > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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        I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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        > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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        Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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        > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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        This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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        > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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        Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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        > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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        **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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        At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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        All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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        > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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        And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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        > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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        Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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          > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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    I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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    > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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    While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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    Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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    > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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    You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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    > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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    I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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    > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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    That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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    > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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    I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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    > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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    Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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    > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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    This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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    > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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    Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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    > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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    **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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    At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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    All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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    > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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    And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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          Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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          If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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          That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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          Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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    I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
    \n
    > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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    While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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    Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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    > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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    You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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    > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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    I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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    > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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    That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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    > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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    I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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    > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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    Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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    > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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    This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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    > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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    Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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    > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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    **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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    At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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    All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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    > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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    And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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      “Operating systems by current version” Mac OS: 14 Windows: 11 Linux: 6
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          > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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          Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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          > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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          Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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          If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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          That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2c32870f-217a-46ee-a69e-01250e0b8462.png)![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b20ca884-76e2-4dc3-a263-eadcd44e837a.png)\n
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          Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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    I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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    > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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    While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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    Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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    > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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    You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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    > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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    I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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    > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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    That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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    > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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    I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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    > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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    Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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    > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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    This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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    > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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    Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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    > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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    **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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    At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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    All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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    > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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    And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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          I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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          > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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          While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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          Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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          > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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          You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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          > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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          I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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          > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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          That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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          > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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          I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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          > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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          Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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          > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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          This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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          > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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          Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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          > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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          **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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          At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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          All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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          > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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          And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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    > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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    Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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    > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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    Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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    If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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    That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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    Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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          I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
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          > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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          While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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          Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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          > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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          You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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          > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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          I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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          > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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          That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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          > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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          I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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          > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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          Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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          > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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          This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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          > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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          Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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          > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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          **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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          At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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          All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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          > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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          And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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    > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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    Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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    > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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    Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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    If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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    That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2c32870f-217a-46ee-a69e-01250e0b8462.png)![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b20ca884-76e2-4dc3-a263-eadcd44e837a.png)\n
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    Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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          I’ll even upvote your comment because you make some good points, but there are other things I must elaborate on. Just for context I use Windows, macOS and Linux in different occasions and I like them all in some way shape or form but I also know that none is perfect.\n
          \n
          > I disagree with the wording here. All the “professional” software works because it’s made for that system. Blaming Linux for lack of Adobe support is like blaming Windows for not supporting valgrind or zsh. It’s up to the program’s developers to support it.\n
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          While I agree with you here and I exaggerated the thing a bit… **the lack of Adobe and others is also Linux’s fault, not only on those companies**. It is really fucking hard to develop and support software for Linux when you’ve to deal with at least two major half-assed desktop environments (KDE and GNOME) and one of them decides to reinvent the wheel every now breaking APIs with little to no regard for software. To make things worse you’ll end up finding out that most of the time people are running KDE + a bunch of GNOME/GTK/libadwaita components creating a Frankenstein of a system because some specific App depends on said components.\n
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          Some time ago I did a simple test, installed **Photoshop 6.0 (from 2000) and MS Office 2003 on Windows 10 and guess what? Both worked just fine at the first attempt**, zero hacks required, zero effort. Linux doesn’t offer this.\n
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          > True, but in my experience, the Windows installer can be more difficult to use and makes things very unfriendly for people who want to dual boot, when compared to Ubuntu and distros\n
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          You’re citing the advanced special use case where the Windows installer isn’t nice. C’mon regular people don’t dual boot, they just have an OS and that’s is. This also makes me question one thing, why is that Linux users are always so focused on “attacking” the Windows installer and saying their is better because it handles dual boot better? It does, but tell me, how would you know if your system is so perfect? Why would you ever need to dual boot? :)\n
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          > If you mean updates, that is kinda true. Only kinda because you can use, say CTT’s winutil to switch to security updates only, with feature updates delayed by a few months.\n
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          I’m not sure if Windows will handle itself correctly even with that. It looks like the thing requires to be powered on everyday or it will eventually fail to boot, be slow, still ask for some kind of update or some other random issue. All the Windows machines I see failing (software wise) are always the ones that aren’t daily driven.\n
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          > Things will get there, to the point where I can see Linux being better than Windows 11 by the time Windows 10 goes EOL (2025).\n
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          That’s essentially because Microsoft decided to make Windows 11 considerably worse than every other version before it. I don’t believe they’ll EOL Windows 10 that soon, after all Microsoft will have to support Windows 10 in some way shape or form after 2025 because there will be some stubborn governments and large businesses that will pay for it. They’ll make those update available for everyone else because, from a business perspective, it makes much more sense to keep supporting those millions of systems than have their reputation crushed by the amount of security vulnerabilities that will pile up.\n
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          > The issue is that Windows 12 is coming with all sorts of AI marketing gimmicks. It’s yet unclear how Linux will respond to that.\n
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          I hope Linux doesn’t react to that at all. But well we don’t know what the [absurdly funded and inept GNOME team](https://linuxiac.com/gnomes-receives-one-million-boost/) will do. They’ll most likely come with some bullshit about how AI is the the way to come up with their messed up view of a DE.\n
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          > Over the years, Microsoft has used ruthless business practices (United States vs Microsoft Corp., the Halloween documents, EEE) to build up and maintain expansive market dominance.\n
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          Oh yeah and they’ll continue to do so and somehow that makes them great. Without the amount of ruthless business practices they’ve been employing Windows would not have the position it has nowadays and we wouldn’t have so much productive tools as we do. Even considering the Office case, the format thing is bad but frankly do you think (the community and open-source companies) would’ve ever be able to build something to complex, solid and feature-rich as MS Office is? Who would’ve set to finance and develop such a complex spreadsheet software for instance? Mind that LibreOffice doesn’t have all the features Excel does and even when it does they sometimes aren’t as good. Look at Google’s pathetic attempt at spreadsheets, its still a for profit entity with a large interest and ecosystem capable of developing something better than MS but still it even lags behind Libre/OnlyOffice. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, suddenly we’re talking about Dynamics NAV and other very complex solutions that all integrate very well with Office.\n
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          > telemetry that you can’t even fully disable\n
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          This isn’t true. Microsoft, unlike, let’s say Apple, has all the spyware very well documented [here](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) and it can be disabled. In fact Microsoft has to have those things documented and toggles in place to disable them because they’ve a lot of costumers (some govt agencies) that wouldn’t be able to use Windows without disabling those things.\n
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          > What does MacOS have to offer? Nothing really. I mean, it’s kind of a middle ground between the two. It’s a Unix system meaning the terminal experience is similar to Linux (aka it’s actually good) and it has the “professional” apps the OP was talking about\n
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          Yes, that’s a very good description of macOS. That’s why I called it the “toaster OS” and is good for your weekend surfing but still has a better position on the market because there’s “professional” software for it. Too bad you can’t disable the spyware.\n
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          > but also suffering from a distinct lack of power user features or even decent window management features in the default desktop experience that it comes with\n
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          **You should try macOS for a month or so**, because their DE is way better than GNOME.\n
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          At least Apple isn’t delusional about desktop icons, doesn’t force people into the activities view and provides toggles to manage the DE. If the GNOME team decided to just do a pixel-perfect copy of macOS and removed most of the customization, 3rd party themes / all the crap that makes GNOME unusable and focused on making it properly then KDE would’ve already faded away and we had the chance to have a single, solid and stable Linux DE for the masses.\n
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          All the current themes, versions and tweaks of GNOME are inconsistent bring a very poor experience and thing every looks good. Here’s a good example, both macOS and Windows have the ability to run containerized desktop applications but it is only on Linux that you launch an App and suddenly it doesn’t respect your theme and goes back to some basic thing because it runs on flatpak and there’s some bullshit about it. Or… your password management can’t communicate with the browser… Or there’s some incompatibility between the GKT version the app uses and something else on the system.\n
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          > There was a very good video on MacOS that I’d recommend: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8)\n
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          And btw, this video is bullsht. The guy goes to review macOS in 2023 and instead of using the latest version of the system, macOS 14, goes for macOS 11 that isn’t even supported anymore. This is the same as taking Windows 7 or Mandriva Linux reviewing it and saying “FEELS OLD”. lol
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    > Linux already beats Windows in some areas (Resource usage, Telemetry or lack thereof, CLI experience) even though most users don’t care about any of these.\n
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    Microsoft did a good job with Windows Terminal and WSL, one of the reasons I use less macOS today is precisely that. I would love to run full Linux and I’ve given it a few attempts but then when there’s no (real) MS Office, Adobe etc. things go downhill. To be fair if one has to virtualize to get stuff done I would rather be on macOS, at least I would have less to virtualize.\n
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    > I tried using QEMU with those scripts that make it easy to set up MacOS inside QEMU but it was still just too slow\n
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    Yeah that’s a common issue with virtualizing macOS. Even on VMWare it can be painful, the issue isn’t lack of resources it’s a 3D acceleration / GPU thing. macOS has limited support for GPUs as well know and with Apple “ARM” CPUs things will get even worse, so what happen is that the drivers and virtualization solutions can’t provide anything compatible to the OS that will render 3D graphics at a recent framerate and with Metal support.\n
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    If you don’t want to run macOS and have the time / access to hardware / interest / money an hackintosh is an interesting solution. My latest attempt on that was a [HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini](https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g6-mini-35w-1l-pc-review/) that I was able to get second hand for 300€. Intel Core i5-10500T / 16 GB RAM / 256GB NVME.\n
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    That machine runs macOS very well, mostly because the CPU is supported out of the box by macOS and the iGPU was also the same of some other intel CPU included on some real mac. The trick with hackintosh is making sure your CPU and GPU are supported by the system natively otherwise it will be painful and never work properly.\n
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    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2c32870f-217a-46ee-a69e-01250e0b8462.png)![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b20ca884-76e2-4dc3-a263-eadcd44e837a.png)\n
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    Obviously not the fastest Mac out there but for web surfing in general, editing documents and some light coding it will get the job done. I got everything working including sleep/wake, filevault, iservices, dual display, 4k output and internal speakers on the first attempt without much effort and I can share the config with you or someone with this machine that comes across this post.
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        > create clusters, download, manage and create OS images, run backups and restores, bootstrap things with cloud-init, move containers and VMs between servers (even live sometimes).\n
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        What else do you need.\n
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        - [github.com/canonical/lxd](https://github.com/canonical/lxd)\n
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    I am currently running most of my stuff from an unraid box using spare parts I have. It seems like I am hitting my limit on it and just want to turn it into a NAS. Micro PCs/USFF are what I am planning on moving stuff to (probably a cluster of 2 for now but might expand later.). Just a few quick questions:\n
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    I am currently running most of my stuff from an unraid box using spare parts I have. It seems like I am hitting my limit on it and just want to turn it into a NAS. Micro PCs/USFF are what I am planning on moving stuff to (probably a cluster of 2 for now but might expand later.). Just a few quick questions:\n
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    This was a discussion about management solutions such as Proxmox and LXD and NOT about containerization technologies like Docker or LXC. Also Proxmox uses the [Proxmox VE Kernel that is derived from Ubuntu](https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_Kernel).\n
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          This was a discussion about management solutions such as Proxmox and LXD and NOT about containerization technologies like Docker or LXC. Also Proxmox uses the [Proxmox VE Kernel that is derived from Ubuntu](https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_Kernel).\n
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        > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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        Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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        What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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        Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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        > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
        \n
        Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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        > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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        Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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        > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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        Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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        > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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        See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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        While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
        \n
        ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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        > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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        Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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        > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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        People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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        Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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        > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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        What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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      +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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        > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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        Oh yes ahaha
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    I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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    While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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    I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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        > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
        \n
        Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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        > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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        You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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        > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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        Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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        It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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        > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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        Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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        > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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        Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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        What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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        Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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        > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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        Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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        > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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        Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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        > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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        Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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        > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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        See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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        While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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        ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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        > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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        Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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        > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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        People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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        Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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        > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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        What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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      +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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        > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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        Oh yes ahaha
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    I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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    While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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    I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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        > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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        Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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        > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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        You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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        > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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        Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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        > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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        It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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        > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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        Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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        > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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        Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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        What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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        Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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        > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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        Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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        > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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        Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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        > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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        Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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        > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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        See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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        While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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        ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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        > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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        Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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        > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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        People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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        Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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        > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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        What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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      +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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        > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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        Oh yes ahaha
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
    \n
    Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
    \n
    > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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    You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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    > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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    Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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    > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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    It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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    > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
    \n
    Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
    \n
    Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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    > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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    You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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    > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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    Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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    > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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    It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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    > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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    Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
    \n
    Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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    > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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    You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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    > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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    Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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    > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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    It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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    > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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    Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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    Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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    What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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    Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
          \n
          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
          \n
          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
          \n
          Oh yes ahaha
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    > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
    \n
    Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
    \n
    What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
    \n
    Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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    Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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    What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
          \n
          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
          \n
          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
          \n
          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
          \n
          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
          \n
          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
          \n
          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
          \n
          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
    \n
    Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
    \n
    Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
          \n
          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
    \n
    Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
      \n
      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
          \n
          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
          \n
          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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        +body: "Already did on the comment."
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        +body: """
          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
          \n
          Oh yes ahaha
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    > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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    Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
      \n
      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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    Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
          \n
          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
    \n
    Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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    > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
    \n
    See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
    \n
    While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
    \n
    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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    > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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    See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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    While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
          \n
          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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    Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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    > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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    See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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    While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
      \n
      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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    Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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    > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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    People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
          \n
          Oh yes ahaha
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    > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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    Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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    > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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    People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
          \n
          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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    Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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    > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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    People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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    > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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    What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
          \n
          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
          \n
          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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    > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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    What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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    Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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    > usage was officially sanctioned\n
    \n
    What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
          \n
          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          Oh yes ahaha
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  +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
      \n
      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
          \n
          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
          \n
          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
          \n
          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
          \n
          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
          \n
          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
          \n
          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
          \n
          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
          \n
          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
          \n
          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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          > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can’t even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
          \n
          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
          \n
          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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    > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    Oh yes ahaha
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
      \n
      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
          \n
          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
          \n
          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
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          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          > usage was officially sanctioned\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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        +body: "You’re delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you’ll just lose the customer right there."
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    > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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    Oh yes ahaha
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      I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.\n
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      While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?\n
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      I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.
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          > Many of your points are management bullshit.\n
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          Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.\n
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          > The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.\n
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          You’re just saying what I said before…\n
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          > The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind\n
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          Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.\n
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          > Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.\n
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          It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.\n
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          > The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.\n
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          Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.
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          > I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.\n
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          Okay so tell me, you’re working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you “bitch” about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don’t work properly?\n
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          Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can’t or won’t be able to install LibreOffice?
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          > your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS\n
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          Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before [lemmy.world/comment/6509728](https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728)
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          > It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.\n
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          Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.
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          > I have very little problem exchanging documents\n
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          Yes but you still have some little annoyances here and there. Is it worth having to fight your software to get your job done? Isn’t just easier and more productive to use MS Office (ROI described above and whatnot).\n
          \n
          > Teams and GoToMeeting are why I started using Edge. It is just a nicer workflow if Teams and Outlook are in the same browser.\n
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          See this is what most people feel about Office, its just nicer to use the Microsoft thing and not ever having to worry about anything.\n
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          While I agree that for some people LibreOffice might work, there’s the following simple test:\n
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          ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbc2faa8-0542-4535-92ce-a84a94381ad9.jpeg)
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          > Id’ say your comparison pictured is not valid. It’s not the same document in both programs\n
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          Yes its the same document. The only thing I did is “open a copy” because the document was locked in the other editor.\n
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          > If one truly wants to share final documents use pdf not a draft format like docx.\n
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          People share unfinished documents with each other and formatting should hold, otherwise how can you collaborate?
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          Yes but doesn’t change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.\n
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          What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they’re required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don’t to any of the above then we’re back to my previous asessement.
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    > funnily enough old linux software is a pain on linux in the rare situations where i need it.\n
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