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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	20.07 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.06 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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        I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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        What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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        Off the top of my head,\n
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        - their power management is better than any other distro for laptops.\n
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        - theyre more up to date than debian but stable while actually coming with Wayland support unlike Mint. Timeshift is great tho, good thing it’s compatible with ubuntu.\n
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        That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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        What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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        That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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        I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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        What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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        That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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    You stop snap store from running, disable it from restarting then set apt over snap store as default.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          Off the top of my head,\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          You stop snap store from running, disable it from restarting then set apt over snap store as default.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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    That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    Snaps are not very space efficient, I don’t need the same packages installed multiple times. In a desktop use case that’s a lot of repeating packages.
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          You stop snap store from running, disable it from restarting then set apt over snap store as default.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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    That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    Snaps are not very space efficient, I don’t need the same packages installed multiple times. In a desktop use case that’s a lot of repeating packages.
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          You stop snap store from running, disable it from restarting then set apt over snap store as default.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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    That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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    Snaps are not very space efficient, I don’t need the same packages installed multiple times. In a desktop use case that’s a lot of repeating packages.
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          You stop snap store from running, disable it from restarting then set apt over snap store as default.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          Off the top of my head,\n
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          - theyre more up to date than debian but stable while actually coming with Wayland support unlike Mint. Timeshift is great tho, good thing it’s compatible with ubuntu.\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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          I started using ubuntu 2 years ago and its great. Just disable snaps. It’s like 5 commands (and you have to reinstall Firefox).\n
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          What about all the other pros of ubuntu?\n
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          Off the top of my head,\n
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          - Their compatibility with WiFi drivers is better than many others, granted that’s not exclusive to ubuntu but it is a pro.\n
          - theyre more up to date than debian but stable while actually coming with Wayland support unlike Mint. Timeshift is great tho, good thing it’s compatible with ubuntu.\n
          - their community is much larger than many other distro so support is easier to find.\n
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          Other distros are good. PopOS is good. I chose Ubuntu mostly because it’s solid and stable but also because it has a wide community for help. I’m just getting tired of the narrative that ubuntu is totally crippled by its snaps. This is a *linux* distro, if I don’t like something I get to change it, which is actually cool. This isn’t windows where I have no control. Also, with snaps gone, I’ve literally never had a problem I haven’t caused. I have the approach of strip out what I don’t want. Arch users install what they do want. At the end of the day, we both are exploiting software we want to use to be productive. If I found myself fighting the os (like Mac or Windows) I’d switch but I don’t so I won’t.
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          That sentence should probably read “on my first day of using Linux outside of a vm on bare metal with an installation I intended to keep”. I use Kali for security work and I used Manjaro once but it killed itself before I knew what I was doing.\n
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