GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/22326/How-many-of-you-run-a-Linux-phone-Pine64-Librem/newest?p=2

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.88
Profiled on
Token
5a02b5

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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authenticators 
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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12 
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13 
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14 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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    I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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    I’m considering purchasing the Pine but I’d like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don’t know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won’t use.\n
    \n
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    Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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    LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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      > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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            I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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        > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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        LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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          LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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              I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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            It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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              I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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              My take at the time: The battery life was bad, the phone was slow, MMS did not work, making a receiving calls was iffy at best.\n
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            It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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          > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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          LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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              I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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            It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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          LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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              I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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            It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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          > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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          LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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              I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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            It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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          > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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          LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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            > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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            LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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            > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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            LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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    > and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.\n
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                I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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              It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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            > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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            LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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    > and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.\n
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    Who does that? There are several great phones you can buy for <$400. The phones of yore were trash.
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                  I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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              > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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              LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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      > and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.\n
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                  I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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              > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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              LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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      > and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.\n
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      Who does that? There are several great phones you can buy for <$400. The phones of yore were trash.
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                  I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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              > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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              LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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      > and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.\n
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                    I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                  It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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                > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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                LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                    I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                  It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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                > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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                LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                    I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                  It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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                > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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                LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                      I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                  LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                    It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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                  > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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                  LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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                      I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.\n
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                    It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.\n
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                  > Pixels are just way too expensive\n
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                  LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…
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    Essentially, your usage of your mobile ends with calling?\n
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    Essentially, your usage of your mobile ends with calling?\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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    Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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    Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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    Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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      Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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      [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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    Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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      Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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    Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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          I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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      Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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      [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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    Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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            I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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        [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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            Almost all things I want to do on a phone are possible with a Pixel + GrapheneOS, which also makes an open source, secure and private phone OS.\n
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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        In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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        [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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        In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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        [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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          Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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          [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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        Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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    +body: "Sms is not as secure as a 2FA app or the bank’s own app. SMS verfification also costs money, so it will raise your monthly fees quite much if you wish to receive a text on every transaction."
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  +body: "As I said, SMS is secure *enough* without being the nightmare of a proprietary spyware app. As for fees, you have an American perspective, in most of the world SMS has been free to send for decades, and was always free to receive. The ideal solution is indeed a 2FA app, but those never took off."
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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              I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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          Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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          In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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          [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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        Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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        A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.
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              I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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          Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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          In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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          [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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        Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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        A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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                I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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                Almost all things I want to do on a phone are possible with a Pixel + GrapheneOS, which also makes an open source, secure and private phone OS.\n
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            Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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            In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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            [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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          Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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          A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.
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      +body: "Sms is not as secure as a 2FA app or the bank’s own app. SMS verfification also costs money, so it will raise your monthly fees quite much if you wish to receive a text on every transaction."
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    +body: "As I said, SMS is secure *enough* without being the nightmare of a proprietary spyware app. As for fees, you have an American perspective, in most of the world SMS has been free to send for decades, and was always free to receive. The ideal solution is indeed a 2FA app, but those never took off."
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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        Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
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        Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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      I’m considering purchasing the Pine but I’d like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don’t know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won’t use.\n
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      Thanks.\n
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      Edit: I am willing to watch content and use banking apps from the browser. Do you think it’ll be fit for me?\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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                I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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                Almost all things I want to do on a phone are possible with a Pixel + GrapheneOS, which also makes an open source, secure and private phone OS.\n
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            Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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            In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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            [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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          Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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          A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.
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      +body: "Sms is not as secure as a 2FA app or the bank’s own app. SMS verfification also costs money, so it will raise your monthly fees quite much if you wish to receive a text on every transaction."
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    +body: "As I said, SMS is secure *enough* without being the nightmare of a proprietary spyware app. As for fees, you have an American perspective, in most of the world SMS has been free to send for decades, and was always free to receive. The ideal solution is indeed a 2FA app, but those never took off."
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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        Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
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        Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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        Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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      I’m considering purchasing the Pine but I’d like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don’t know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won’t use.\n
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      Thanks.\n
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      Edit: I am willing to watch content and use banking apps from the browser. Do you think it’ll be fit for me?\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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                I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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                Almost all things I want to do on a phone are possible with a Pixel + GrapheneOS, which also makes an open source, secure and private phone OS.\n
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            Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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            In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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            [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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          Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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          A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.
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      +body: "Sms is not as secure as a 2FA app or the bank’s own app. SMS verfification also costs money, so it will raise your monthly fees quite much if you wish to receive a text on every transaction."
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    +body: "As I said, SMS is secure *enough* without being the nightmare of a proprietary spyware app. As for fees, you have an American perspective, in most of the world SMS has been free to send for decades, and was always free to receive. The ideal solution is indeed a 2FA app, but those never took off."
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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        [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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        Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.\n
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        In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That’s why browser isn’t an option for me. Sadly I don’t think waydroid passes the `basicIntegrity` check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.\n
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        [1] [grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps](https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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      Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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      I’ve bought a Nexus 4 to play around with Ubuntu Touch many years ago, but I really don’t think I could daily drive even a more powerful Linux phone. Many apps from messengers to banking apps are Android/iOS only, so it’d be really inconvenient to use — not to mention problems with calling and a not-so-great camera.\n
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    Will definitely give these a look, thank you for the updates.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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      Will definitely give these a look, thank you for the updates.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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      Will definitely give these a look, thank you for the updates.\n
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      Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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      [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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    I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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      Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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      [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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      Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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      I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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          +body: "Would really love to but have yet to see basic phone functionality covered in a way that isn’t a painful compromise. Stock Android is a privacy nightmare, which is why I left it. I had some fun with Cyanogenmod back in the day, maybe there’s another de-googled Android distribution around today but since I last checked I couldn’t find one that runs on modern mainstream hardware without really jumping through some crazy hoops to establish root."
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          Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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          Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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          Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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          [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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        I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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          I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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          I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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                [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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              I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                  Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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                I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                  Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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                  Both run on modern hardware and are super simple to install.
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                I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                As I have been complaining for a long while now, the entire custom ROM market is moving towards the Pixels, which is a dreadful move in my opinion, but what I can do
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                  Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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                  [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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                  Both run on modern hardware and are super simple to install.
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                I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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                As I have been complaining for a long while now, the entire custom ROM market is moving towards the Pixels, which is a dreadful move in my opinion, but what I can do
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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            [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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          I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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            Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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          I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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      Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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              +body: "Would really love to but have yet to see basic phone functionality covered in a way that isn’t a painful compromise. Stock Android is a privacy nightmare, which is why I left it. I had some fun with Cyanogenmod back in the day, maybe there’s another de-googled Android distribution around today but since I last checked I couldn’t find one that runs on modern mainstream hardware without really jumping through some crazy hoops to establish root."
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              Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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              [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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              Both run on modern hardware and are super simple to install.
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            I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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      I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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      I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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      I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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        Cyanogenmod became [LineageOS](https://lineageos.org/). It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.\n
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        [GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/) is also worth looking at.\n
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      I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.\n
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    Disclaimer: I’m an android user and would love to switch to a Linux phone.\n
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      Yeah Linux phone is a pipedream as long as Android works well at all.\n
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        Yeah Linux phone is a pipedream as long as Android works well at all.\n
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      Disclaimer: I’m an android user and would love to switch to a Linux phone.\n
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