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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	1.15 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.07 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

#	Voter class
1	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      \n
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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    Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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      Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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      Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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    > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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    Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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    > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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    Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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      Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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      Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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    > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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    Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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    > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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          You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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          Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
        \n
        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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        > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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        I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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        - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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      Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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      Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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    > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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    > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
          \n
          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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        Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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        Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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      > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
      \n
      Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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      > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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      Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
          \n
          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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        Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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        Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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      > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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      Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
          \n
          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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        Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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        Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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      > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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      Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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      > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
            \n
            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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          Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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          Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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        > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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        Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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        > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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        Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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    > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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    For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
            \n
            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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          Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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        > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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        Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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        > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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        Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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    > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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    For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
            \n
            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
            - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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          Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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          Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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        > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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        Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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        > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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        Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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    > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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    For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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                …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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              I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
              - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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            Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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            Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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          > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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          Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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          > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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          Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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      > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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      For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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    Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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    Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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                …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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              I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
              - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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            Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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            Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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          > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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          Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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          > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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          Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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      > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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      For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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    Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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    Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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                …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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              I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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            Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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            Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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          > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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          Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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          > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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          Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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      > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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      For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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    Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                  You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                \n
                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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              Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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              Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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            > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
            \n
            Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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            > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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            Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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        > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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        For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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      Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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      Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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    > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
    \n
    I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
    \n
    > things like Keepass integration\n
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    The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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    > Fido2 keys\n
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    I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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    > drag and drop\n
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    Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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    > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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    It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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    > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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    I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                  You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                  Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                \n
                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                \n
                - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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              Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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              Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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            > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
            \n
            Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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            > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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            Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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        > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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        For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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      Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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      Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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    > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
    \n
    I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
    \n
    > things like Keepass integration\n
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    The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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    > Fido2 keys\n
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    I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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    > drag and drop\n
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    Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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    > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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    It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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    > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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    I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                  You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                  Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                \n
                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                \n
                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                \n
                - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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              Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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              Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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            > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
            \n
            Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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            > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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            Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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        > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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        For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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      Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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      Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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    > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
    \n
    I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
    \n
    > things like Keepass integration\n
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    The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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    > Fido2 keys\n
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    I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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    > drag and drop\n
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    Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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    > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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    It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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    > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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    I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                    \n
                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                  \n
                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                  \n
                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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              > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
              \n
              Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
              \n
              > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
              \n
              Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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          +body: "Okay true. I am not so much into this Browser sandbox thing and dont really get it. Its a different way than bubblewrap, as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?"
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          > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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          For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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        Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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        Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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      > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
      \n
      I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
      \n
      > things like Keepass integration\n
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      The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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      > Fido2 keys\n
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      I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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      > drag and drop\n
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      Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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      > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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      It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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      > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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      I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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    Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
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    I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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              > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
              \n
              Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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              > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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              Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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          +body: "Okay true. I am not so much into this Browser sandbox thing and dont really get it. Its a different way than bubblewrap, as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?"
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          > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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          For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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        Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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        Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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      > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
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      I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
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      > things like Keepass integration\n
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      The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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      > Fido2 keys\n
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      I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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      > drag and drop\n
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      Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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      > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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      It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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      > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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      I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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    Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
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    I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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              > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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              Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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              > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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              Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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          +body: "Okay true. I am not so much into this Browser sandbox thing and dont really get it. Its a different way than bubblewrap, as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?"
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          > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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          For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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        Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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        Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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      > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
      \n
      I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
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      > things like Keepass integration\n
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      The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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      > Fido2 keys\n
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      I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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      > drag and drop\n
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      Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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      > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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      It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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      > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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      I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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    Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
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    I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                    \n
                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                    - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                  Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                  Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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                > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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                Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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                > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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                Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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            > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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            For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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          Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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          Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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        > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
        \n
        I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
        \n
        > things like Keepass integration\n
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        The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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        > Fido2 keys\n
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        I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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        > drag and drop\n
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        Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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        > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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        It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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        > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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        I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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      Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
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      I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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    I somehow forgot that Fedora also had Firefox in their flatpak repos.\n
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    > I got a Nitrokey for **Heads**\n
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    You know what’s good, fam.\n
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    > but for some reason it never arrived\n
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    That’s messed up, though.
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                    \n
                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                    - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                  Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                  Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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                > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
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                Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
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                > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
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                Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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            +body: "Okay true. I am not so much into this Browser sandbox thing and dont really get it. Its a different way than bubblewrap, as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?"
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            > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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            For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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          Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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          Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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        > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
        \n
        I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
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        > things like Keepass integration\n
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        The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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        > Fido2 keys\n
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        I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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        > drag and drop\n
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        Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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        > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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        It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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        > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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        I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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      Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
      \n
      I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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    I somehow forgot that Fedora also had Firefox in their flatpak repos.\n
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    > I got a Nitrokey for **Heads**\n
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    You know what’s good, fam.\n
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    > but for some reason it never arrived\n
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    That’s messed up, though.
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                    \n
                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                    - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                  Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable. They can just take binaries, add dependenciesy tadaa.\n
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                  Bubblewrap is not insecure. But I am not an expert
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                > Officially supported doesnt mean its more stable.\n
                \n
                Never implied that anyways. Official merely ensures that the amount of trusted parties can be minimized.\n
                \n
                > Bubblewrap is not insecure.\n
                \n
                Bubblewrap, when properly applied is indeed excellent; perhaps the best utility to sandbox applications on Linux. I’m thankful that flatpaks makes use of bubblewrap, namespaces and seccomp to offer relatively safe/secure apps/binaries, I’m unaware of any other ‘(universal) package manager’ within the Linux-space that offers similar feats in that regard. Unfortunately, Chromium-based browsers just happen to have an even stronger sandbox -if properly configured- than flatpaks are currently capable of.
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            +body: "Okay true. I am not so much into this Browser sandbox thing and dont really get it. Its a different way than bubblewrap, as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?"
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            > as from Firefox RPM for example I can open any file and save anywhere. But its process isolation right?\n
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            For Firefox, the verdict on its native sandbox vs Flatpak’s native sandbox doesn’t seem conclusive. With -assumingly- *knowledgeable* peeps on both sides of the argument, which indeed does raise the question how *knowledgeable* they actually are. Nonetheless, for myself, I’ve accepted Flatpak’s sandbox to not be inferior to Firefox’ native one. Thus, I don’t see any problem with using its flatpak.
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          Apart from having all the nice KDE integration and things like Keepass integration, Fido2 keys, drag and drop and some more things…\n
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          Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile and it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best, along with Mozillas all-together-binary.
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        > Apart from having all the nice KDE integration\n
        \n
        I’m a sucker for GNOME :P , but I’ll keep it in mind.\n
        \n
        > things like Keepass integration\n
        \n
        The flatpak does allow integration, but isn’t built-in unfortunately; so one has to fiddle a bit themselves to set it up.\n
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        > Fido2 keys\n
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        I should rely more on those. Do you have any recommendations? I’ve been hearing good things about Nitropad and Yubico, but I honestly don’t know if they’re actually good and how they would fare amongst eachother.\n
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        > drag and drop\n
        \n
        Overrated anyways /s :P .\n
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        > Also afaik the Fedora Firefox has a good SELinux profile\n
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        It’s probably better configured with the native package than the flatpak one indeed. I wonder if this will change as Fedora is interested to ship Firefox as a flatpak by default on Silverblue (and variants).\n
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        > it runs damn fast. I did a speed test and it was best\n
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        I haven’t had the best internet speeds since I’ve been relying on free VPN. But that’s on me :P .
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      Fedora packages a Flatpak Firefox themselves, based off the RPM. So its good too, but lacks codecs with currently no way to enable them so yeah. They would need am extension of some sort hosted on Flathub. So simply using Firefox Flatpak from Flathub makes more sense.\n
      \n
      I got a Nitrokey for Heads but for some reason it never arrived? I can say these things are very expensive. And Heads uses PGP and not others.
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    I somehow forgot that Fedora also had Firefox in their flatpak repos.\n
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    > I got a Nitrokey for **Heads**\n
    \n
    You know what’s good, fam.\n
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    > but for some reason it never arrived\n
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    That’s messed up, though.
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        …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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        You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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        Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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      > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
      \n
      [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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              I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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    [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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    It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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                …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
              \n
              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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              I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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              - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
              - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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    [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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    It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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              > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
              \n
              [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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              > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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    [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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    It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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      [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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      It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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    I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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    > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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    [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                  You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                  Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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      [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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      It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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    I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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    > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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    [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                  …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                  You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                  Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                \n
                [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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      [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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      It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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    I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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    > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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    [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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        [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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        It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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      I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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      > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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      [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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        [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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        It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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      I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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      > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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      [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                    …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                    You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                  > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                  \n
                  [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                  > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                  I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                  - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                  - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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        [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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        It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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      I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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      > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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      [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                    \n
                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                    - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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          [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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          It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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        I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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        > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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        [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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    Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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    I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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    I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
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          [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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          It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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        I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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        > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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        [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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    Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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    I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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    I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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                      …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                      You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                    > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                    \n
                    [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                    > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                    I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                    - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                    - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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          [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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          It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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        I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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        > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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        [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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    Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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    I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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    I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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                        …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                        You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                        Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                      > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                      [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                      > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                      I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                      - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                      - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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            [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
            \n
            It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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          I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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          > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
          \n
          [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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      +body: "The sandbox is not weakened meaningfully. It’s in a different namespace, no filesystem, no network, no GPU, seccomp rules still applied."
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      Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
      \n
      I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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      I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
      """
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    I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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    The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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    The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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    This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
    \n
    This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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    The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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                        …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                        \n
                        You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                        \n
                        Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                      > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                      \n
                      [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
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                      > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                      I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
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                      - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                      - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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            [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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            It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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          I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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          > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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          [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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      Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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      I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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      I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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    I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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    The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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    The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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    This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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    This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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    The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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                        …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                        \n
                        You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                        \n
                        Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                      > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                      \n
                      [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                      \n
                      > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                      \n
                      I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                      \n
                      - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                      - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                  +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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                +body: "it’s still factual that flatpaks sandbox is weak by default, especially compared to what chromium provides on its own."
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            [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
            \n
            It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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          I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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          > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
          \n
          [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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      Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
      \n
      I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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      I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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    I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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    The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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    The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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    This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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    This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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    The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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                          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                          \n
                          You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                          Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                        \n
                        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                        \n
                        > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                        I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                        \n
                        - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                        - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                    +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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              [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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              It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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            I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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            > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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            [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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        Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
        \n
        I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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        I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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      I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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      The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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      The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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      This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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      This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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      The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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    > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
    \n
    I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
    \n
    Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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    Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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    ---\n
    \n
    1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                          \n
                          You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                          \n
                          Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                        \n
                        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                        \n
                        > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                        \n
                        I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                        \n
                        - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                        - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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              [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
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              It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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            I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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            > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
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            [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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        +body: "The sandbox is not weakened meaningfully. It’s in a different namespace, no filesystem, no network, no GPU, seccomp rules still applied."
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        Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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        I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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        I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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      I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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      The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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      The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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      This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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      This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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      The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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    > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
    \n
    I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
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    Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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    Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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    ---\n
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    1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                          …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                          \n
                          You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                          \n
                          Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                        > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                        \n
                        [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                        \n
                        > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                        \n
                        I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                        \n
                        - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                        - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                    +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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                  +body: "it’s still factual that flatpaks sandbox is weak by default, especially compared to what chromium provides on its own."
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              [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
              \n
              It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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            I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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            > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
            \n
            [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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        Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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        I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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        I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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      I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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      The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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      The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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      This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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      This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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      The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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    > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
    \n
    I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
    \n
    Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
    \n
    Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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    ---\n
    \n
    1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
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                            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
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                            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                          \n
                          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                          \n
                          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
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                          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                          \n
                          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                          - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                \n
                It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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              I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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              > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
              \n
              [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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          +body: "The sandbox is not weakened meaningfully. It’s in a different namespace, no filesystem, no network, no GPU, seccomp rules still applied."
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          Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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          I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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          I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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        I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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        The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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        The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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        This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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        This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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        The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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      > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
      \n
      I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
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      Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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      Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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      ---\n
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      1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                            \n
                            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                            \n
                            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                          \n
                          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                          \n
                          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                          \n
                          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                          \n
                          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                          - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                      +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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                    +body: "it’s still factual that flatpaks sandbox is weak by default, especially compared to what chromium provides on its own."
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                +body: "Would you mind elaborating? First time hearing this and a quick search didn’t resolve it."
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                [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                \n
                It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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              I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
              \n
              > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
              \n
              [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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          Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
          \n
          I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
          \n
          I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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        I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
        \n
        The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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        The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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        This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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        This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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        The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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      > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
      \n
      I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
      \n
      Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
      \n
      Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                            …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                            \n
                            You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                            \n
                            Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                          > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                          \n
                          [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                          \n
                          > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                          \n
                          I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                          \n
                          - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                          - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                \n
                It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
                """
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              I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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              > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
              \n
              [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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          +body: "The sandbox is not weakened meaningfully. It’s in a different namespace, no filesystem, no network, no GPU, seccomp rules still applied."
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          Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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          I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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          I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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        I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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        The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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        The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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        This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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        This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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        The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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      > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
      \n
      I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
      \n
      Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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      Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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      ---\n
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      1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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                              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                              \n
                              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                              \n
                              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                            \n
                            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                            \n
                            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                            \n
                            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                            \n
                            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                            - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                        +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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                      +body: "it’s still factual that flatpaks sandbox is weak by default, especially compared to what chromium provides on its own."
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                  +body: "Would you mind elaborating? First time hearing this and a quick search didn’t resolve it."
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                  [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                  \n
                  It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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                I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
                \n
                > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
                \n
                [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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            Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
            \n
            I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
            \n
            I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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          I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
          \n
          The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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          The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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          This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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          This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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          The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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        > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
        \n
        I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
        \n
        Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
        \n
        Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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    +body: "The comment on there is odd, I’m not even sure what that issue is referring to. Not much exciting happened in that release for new features but there were subsandbox security fixes [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/…/1.10.8...1.12.0](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/compare/1.10.8...1.12.0)"
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                              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                              \n
                              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                              \n
                              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                            \n
                            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                            \n
                            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                            \n
                            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                            \n
                            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                            - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
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                  [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                  \n
                  It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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                I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
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                > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
                \n
                [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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            Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
            \n
            I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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            I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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          I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
          \n
          The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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          The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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          This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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          This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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          The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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        > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
        \n
        I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
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        Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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        Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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        ---\n
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        1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
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      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
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      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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                              …why would you use homebrew on linux?\n
                              \n
                              You already use an arch container that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                              \n
                              Also, if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux, it’s the most widely adopted and most well integrated of the universal packaging formats. I’m not saying that homebrew is bad, just why bother with it when you’ve got 100 other packaging formats that are all better…
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                          +body: """
                            > You already use an arch **container** that has access to the AUR, which has literally every package, available on linux.\n
                            \n
                            [Call me paranoid if you will.](https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/docker-and-oci-hardening/)\n
                            \n
                            > if anything, flatpaks are THE official (universal) packaging format for Linux\n
                            \n
                            I don’t deny that, I make good use of a ton of flatpaks on my system. I also believe that it’s the best we have. And I would literally switch to Brave as a flatpak if it would satisfy the following:\n
                            \n
                            - Be official and thus maintained by Brave itself.\n
                            - Not having to forego its own more powerful sandbox due to (hopefully) current restrictions of Flatpak. Yes, you read that correctly; while flatpaks are arguably the safest way to consume most applications, this doesn’t apply to apps that actually have stronger sandboxes which had to be ‘slimmed down’ when packaged as a flatpak. Thus, currently, for maximum protection, one simply can’t rely on flatpaks for their Chromium-based browsers. If you choose to do so and it has worked out for you wonderfully; that’s awesome, I’ve been there and enjoyed the experience as well. But, I can’t justify it for myself any longer.
                            """
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                        +body: "I rely on flatpaks for all non-firefox browsers and haven’t had any issues with them, I’ve used the brave flatpaks specifically for almost a year now and no issues…"
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                      +body: "it’s still factual that flatpaks sandbox is weak by default, especially compared to what chromium provides on its own."
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                  +body: "Would you mind elaborating? First time hearing this and a quick search didn’t resolve it."
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                  [github.com/refi64/zypak](https://github.com/refi64/zypak)\n
                  \n
                  It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes and is basically identical to its normal sandbox in terms of permissions.
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                I am thankful that zypak exists so that Chromium-based browsers and Electron apps don’t have to explicitly flag `–no-sandbox` to continue functioning. However, it doesn’t undermine the fact that native Chromium’s sandbox is more powerful than Flatpak’s sandbox. As such, if one desires security, then one should gravitate towards the native installed one.\n
                \n
                > It lets Chromium use flatpak **sub-sandboxes**\n
                \n
                [Are you sure that’s the case?](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18)
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            Unfortunately, you didn’t -to my knowledge- support nor retract your claim on Chromium using flatpak sub-sandboxes. Therefore, I find it hard to continue taking your words at face value.\n
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            I have enjoyed these interactions, so don’t get me wrong; but if I (possibly) catch you on spreading misinformation (even if unintentional), then I find it hard to keep engagement up as there’s no guarantee that anything else coming from you is actually correct.\n
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            I would love to be corrected on this though, so please feel free if I have misunderstood you or anything else that would revive this conversation. If not, then I would still like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this friendly interaction we’ve had. Take care!
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          I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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          The portal code is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/…/flatpak_portal_proxy.h](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/dbus/flatpak_portal_proxy.h)\n
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          The actual code that Chromium calls is here: [github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/…/spawn_latest.cc#L2…](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/blob/ded79a2f8a509adc21834b95a9892073d4a91fdc/src/helper/spawn_latest.cc#L21)\n
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          This calls the `org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak` service.\n
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          This service is here: [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/tree/main/portal)\n
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          The `Spawn` method creates a new sandbox completely isolated from the originating sandbox.
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        > I linked the source but sure, I’ll link it more for you.\n
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        I am aware, but the *same* source *seemingly* contradicted your point^[1]^ regarding [sub-sandboxing](https://github.com/refi64/zypak/issues/18).\n
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        Wow, thanks a lot for the work you’ve put into this! It might take some time for me to go through this, but I’ll definitely take a look and perhaps I’ll return on this at a later point. Perhaps with this I will finally be able to install my Chromium-based browsers as a flatpak and don’t feel bad about it.\n
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        Once again, your engagement has been much appreciated! So please feel free to let me know if I can buy you a coffee or something 😊! Unfortunately, statements like *“Thank you so much!”* don’t quite capture the sheer magnitude of gratitude I feel towards you right now. For whatever it’s worth; I salute you, good human.\n
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        ---\n
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        1. *“It lets Chromium use flatpak sub-sandboxes”* that you expressed in [this comment](https://lemmy.world/comment/5084810).
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    +body: "The comment on there is odd, I’m not even sure what that issue is referring to. Not much exciting happened in that release for new features but there were subsandbox security fixes [github.com/flatpak/flatpak/…/1.10.8...1.12.0](https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/compare/1.10.8...1.12.0)"
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      Imagine saying all that and not linking it 😏\n
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      I got you fam. [store.steampowered.com/app/…/V_Rings_of_Saturn/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/V_Rings_of_Saturn/)
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      Imagine saying all that and not linking it 😏\n
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      I got you fam. [store.steampowered.com/app/…/V_Rings_of_Saturn/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/V_Rings_of_Saturn/)
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    Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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