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affirmative Strategy
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    If you try to remove one of the [predefined zones](https://firewalld.org/documentation/zone/predefined-zones.html) from Firewalld, e.g. `public`, you encounter the following error:\n
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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    I came across [this GitHub issue](https://github.com/firewalld/firewalld/issues/897). So it appears that this is a known “issue”, and it could potentially be changed in the future, albeit probably far in the future. It is a very strange initial design choice, though, in my opinion.
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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        The zones are there so you can set your ports/services as needed for home, work, public wiffi etc. the idea is you leave your ports alone and just swap adapter to the zone you are working in. Network Manager has a quick toggle on wifi to do this from connection settings. So at home your laptop has ssh, smb open etc, when you connect to starbucks wifi you set wifi to public. The other part of zones is each as a fallback default you can specify. So if a port or service traffic doean’t match your home zone you can have if failover to default, in my case default is public. if that doean’t match either it can failover to “drop” or “block” etc. they have a heirachy.\n
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        The zones are there so you can set your ports/services as needed for home, work, public wiffi etc. the idea is you leave your ports alone and just swap adapter to the zone you are working in. Network Manager has a quick toggle on wifi to do this from connection settings. So at home your laptop has ssh, smb open etc, when you connect to starbucks wifi you set wifi to public. The other part of zones is each as a fallback default you can specify. So if a port or service traffic doean’t match your home zone you can have if failover to default, in my case default is public. if that doean’t match either it can failover to “drop” or “block” etc. they have a heirachy.\n
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    > I see. I guess my point was they exist for a reason, as the default target of one zone handsover to the next zone (target) and then its target, in order to handle traffic not in your zone rules.\n
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          The zones are there so you can set your ports/services as needed for home, work, public wiffi etc. the idea is you leave your ports alone and just swap adapter to the zone you are working in. Network Manager has a quick toggle on wifi to do this from connection settings. So at home your laptop has ssh, smb open etc, when you connect to starbucks wifi you set wifi to public. The other part of zones is each as a fallback default you can specify. So if a port or service traffic doean’t match your home zone you can have if failover to default, in my case default is public. if that doean’t match either it can failover to “drop” or “block” etc. they have a heirachy.\n
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      If you try to remove one of the [predefined zones](https://firewalld.org/documentation/zone/predefined-zones.html) from Firewalld, e.g. `public`, you encounter the following error:\n
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            The zones are there so you can set your ports/services as needed for home, work, public wiffi etc. the idea is you leave your ports alone and just swap adapter to the zone you are working in. Network Manager has a quick toggle on wifi to do this from connection settings. So at home your laptop has ssh, smb open etc, when you connect to starbucks wifi you set wifi to public. The other part of zones is each as a fallback default you can specify. So if a port or service traffic doean’t match your home zone you can have if failover to default, in my case default is public. if that doean’t match either it can failover to “drop” or “block” etc. they have a heirachy.\n
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      +body: "I see. I guess my point was they exist for a reason, as the default target of one zone handsover to the next zone (target) and then its target, in order to handle traffic not in your zone rules. Maybe you know that already. If you have a static machine at work mayne you don’t need home zone, but it is not causing “bloat”. You would also still need drop, block and so on. My thought is if you think firewalld is bloat, just use iptables directly."
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      > I see. I guess my point was they exist for a reason, as the default target of one zone handsover to the next zone (target) and then its target, in order to handle traffic not in your zone rules.\n
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      This is essentially what I ended up doing.
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            The zones are there so you can set your ports/services as needed for home, work, public wiffi etc. the idea is you leave your ports alone and just swap adapter to the zone you are working in. Network Manager has a quick toggle on wifi to do this from connection settings. So at home your laptop has ssh, smb open etc, when you connect to starbucks wifi you set wifi to public. The other part of zones is each as a fallback default you can specify. So if a port or service traffic doean’t match your home zone you can have if failover to default, in my case default is public. if that doean’t match either it can failover to “drop” or “block” etc. they have a heirachy.\n
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