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Person unplugs dangerous machine, puts a sign on the power button, and either nobody turns it on until its fixed, or nobody touches it until the person who put the sign on is out of its guts. This is not hierarchal authority, and in fact everyone having this power, levelling it, increases workplace safety. This is in fact <em>communication</em>. It’s a veto.</p>\n<p>Identifying roles with individuals² necessarily creates hierarchy and reduces communication bandwidth. I think the idea that you need to have one consciousness one individual one will responsible for things above a certain scale is insane and backwards, it comes from an insecurity and an unwillingness to adapt.</p>\n<p>Quite frankly, you cannot comprehend all of a large system. You can’t comprehend all of the road traffic in a medium sized city. Can’t be done. Your brain just isn’t enough, and the more you try, the more you abstract and reduce, the more you enforce demands based on your reduced abstract understanding, the more you get into the surreal shit show that was the late soviet union’s industrial system¹. The atrophy and distortion is unavoidable unless you work from the bottom up.</p>\n<p>Even in your industrial example, having everyone’s eyes and everyone’s³ voice, including their veto on a process will get you a better end result.</p>\n<p>The harder you squeeze the higher functions of society, the more easily they slip out of your grasp. You must trust, you must allow others agency, you must understand that you do not understand and not fucking pretend.</p>\n<p>If you must have a hierarchal model, I can recommend maszlow’s–which on a civilizational level isn’t all that far off a Marxian analysis of progress. Sorry for the ramble; am very high rn.</p>\n<p>¹not that there was a single thing wrong with the USSR at its worst that isn’t wrong with the united States today, and worse besides that make it harder to use as a clear example, please read like an adult and dont make me baby your tankie ass because your imaginary fantasy of your state-daddy you’ve never been to built from 50 year old propaganda pieces is beyond criticism and was without flaw. You can love shit that wasn’t perfect, it’s fine.</p>\n<p>² a lunch huddle, Bob being kind of a safety nerd, and the informal back channels kludges and black markets that literally always grow organically in any rigid authoritative system that needs to actually work, sometimes to everyone’s benefit and nobody’s acknowledgement, sometimes at great cost. When roles like coordination and safety are a group responsibility everyone keeps at least half an eye out, and some fucking nerd always does at least as much as a dedicated manager would.</p>\n<p>³everyone who gives a shit, at least. Workers at a factory cross training and coming up with ways they could do better, all reading different industry publications giving them different perspectives at the weekly meeting or next refactoring is going to get you better productivity safety efficiency and QOL gains than any amount of distant bosses or consultants could do, and the same between factories, industries, etc. The same is true for farms, gardens, cottage industry, mines, etc.</p>\n","inReplyTo":"https://lemmy.ml/comment/22216744","mediaType":"text/html","source":{"content":">need binding control\n\nSure, let's say something like a lock out tag out mechanism. 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