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Security

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Firewall

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affirmative Strategy
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    There’s not really much of a point using the RCS Test app, as it’s only a demo of very basic RCS features.\n
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    I *believe* Samsung’s Messages app may also have access to some(?) of these features if the cellular carrier also uses Google’s Jibe servers for RCS routing, but don’t quote me on that.\n
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