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user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
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11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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          The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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        Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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        The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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        We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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        It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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      +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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        That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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      +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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        How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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        It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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  +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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    > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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    > “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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    > Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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          The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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          This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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          Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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          If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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        Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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        The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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        It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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        That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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        If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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      +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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        How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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        It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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  +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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    > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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          The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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          This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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          I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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          Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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          If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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        Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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        The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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        We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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        It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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        That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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        How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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        It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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    The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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    The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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    The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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    It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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    +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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      > “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
            \n
            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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          It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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    That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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    If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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    Anyway flatpak ideally was supposed to save Devs the work of packaging for every distro so it makes sense that the real actual verified dev of the app would package the flatpak/snap himself
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    +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
      \n
      > “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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      > Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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    If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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          It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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  +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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  +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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          If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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          It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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  +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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    +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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            I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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            If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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            The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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            Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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    How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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        +body: "The official Developer of the app. E.g. the official dev of Blender is blender.org. The flatpak people give them a line of code to embed in their website and they use that to verify that the dev really is blender.org and not a malicious actor."
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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          It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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    The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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    This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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    I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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    Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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    If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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    +slug: "Canonical-s-Steam-Snap-is-Causing-Headaches-for-Valve"
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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      > “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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      > Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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          We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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          It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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    The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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    This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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    I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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    Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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          Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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          The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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        +body: "Yes but if you use an Arch distro like Endeavour, they won’t support you with issues caused by AUR apps. Because of these reasons I mentioned."
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          That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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          How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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