GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@dgmib@lemmy.world/commented

Response
200 OK
IP
43.173.177.53
Profiled on
Token
76dc15

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.26 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.03 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2520 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#4032 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#4073 …}
  +slug: "F-EURk-pez"
  +title: "F#€k $pez"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/2bdd770f-f3ab-4b6d-b829-ee00fce64c7f.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 354
  +favouriteCount: 3274
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1724206715 {#4068
    date: 2024-08-21 04:18:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4075 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4077 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4079 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4081 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4083 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4085 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1720
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.\n
        \n
        That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.\n
        \n
        The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 434
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703589117 {#1714
        date: 2023-12-26 12:11:57.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Grayox@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …}
      -id: 146353
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5475183"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700568109 {#1718
        date: 2023-11-21 13:01:49.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 146353
    }
  ]
  -id: 15032
  -titleTs: "'f':1 'k':2 'pez':3"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700651354
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8267728"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700564954 {#4054
    date: 2023-11-21 12:09:14.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2520 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#4032 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#4073 …}
  +slug: "F-EURk-pez"
  +title: "F#€k $pez"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/2bdd770f-f3ab-4b6d-b829-ee00fce64c7f.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 354
  +favouriteCount: 3274
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1724206715 {#4068
    date: 2024-08-21 04:18:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4075 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4077 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4079 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4081 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4083 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4085 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1720
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.\n
        \n
        That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.\n
        \n
        The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 434
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703589117 {#1714
        date: 2023-12-26 12:11:57.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Grayox@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …}
      -id: 146353
      -bodyTs: "'activ':25 'back':44 'came':33 'contributor':54 'current':21 'declin':22 'enshitifi':7 'explod':4 'grow':12,57 'hear':38 'import':63 'initi':37 'lemmi':35 'lurk':46 'lurker':30 'month':2,14,16,24 'number':49 'post':3 'primarili':28 'reddit':8,42,47 'spez':6 'steadili':13 'still':11,56 'suggest':18 'total':1 'user':26,51 'went':43"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5475183"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700568109 {#1718
        date: 2023-11-21 13:01:49.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 146353
    }
  ]
  -id: 15032
  -titleTs: "'f':1 'k':2 'pez':3"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700651354
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8267728"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700564954 {#4054
    date: 2023-11-21 12:09:14.0 +01:00
  }
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   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
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  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#4032 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#4073 …}
  +slug: "F-EURk-pez"
  +title: "F#€k $pez"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/2bdd770f-f3ab-4b6d-b829-ee00fce64c7f.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 354
  +favouriteCount: 3274
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1724206715 {#4068
    date: 2024-08-21 04:18:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4075 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4077 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4079 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4081 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4083 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4085 …}
  +children: [
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.\n
        \n
        That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.\n
        \n
        The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 434
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703589117 {#1714
        date: 2023-12-26 12:11:57.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Grayox@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …}
      -id: 146353
      -bodyTs: "'activ':25 'back':44 'came':33 'contributor':54 'current':21 'declin':22 'enshitifi':7 'explod':4 'grow':12,57 'hear':38 'import':63 'initi':37 'lemmi':35 'lurk':46 'lurker':30 'month':2,14,16,24 'number':49 'post':3 'primarili':28 'reddit':8,42,47 'spez':6 'steadili':13 'still':11,56 'suggest':18 'total':1 'user':26,51 'went':43"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5475183"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700568109 {#1718
        date: 2023-11-21 13:01:49.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 146353
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  -titleTs: "'f':1 'k':2 'pez':3"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700651354
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8267728"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700564954 {#4054
    date: 2023-11-21 12:09:14.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
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    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1717 …}
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#4032 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#4073 …}
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    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
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    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 354
    +favouriteCount: 3274
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
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      date: 2024-08-21 04:18:35.0 +02:00
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    +mentions: null
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    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4077 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4079 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4081 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4083 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4085 …}
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    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1700651354
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8267728"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700564954 {#4054
      date: 2023-11-21 12:09:14.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.\n
    \n
    That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.\n
    \n
    The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 434
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1703589117 {#1714
    date: 2023-12-26 12:11:57.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …}
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        You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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      [zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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      I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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      It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
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          You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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          I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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          What is your source for your statement that there is an accepted convention for the priority of the iinline obelus or solidus symbol?\n
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          As far as I’m aware, every style guide states that a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses should be used to resolve the ambiguity when there are additional operators to the right of a solidus, and that an obelus should never be used.\n
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          Which therefore would make it the division expressed with an obelus that creates the ambiguity, and not the implicit multiplication.\n
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          (Rest of the post is great)
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          What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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          Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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    Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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    [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
    \n
    > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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    For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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    Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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    Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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        Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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        If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
        \n
        Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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        If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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        If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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        From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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        Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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        It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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        For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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        The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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        People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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        Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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        But I am genuinely curious what you think I’m making assumptions about.
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        I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
        \n
        As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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        But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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        The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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        A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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        Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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        Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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        Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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        It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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        But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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        Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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    For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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    Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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        Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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        If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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        Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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        If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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        If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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        From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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        Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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        It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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        For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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        The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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        People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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        Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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        I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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        As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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        But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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        The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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        A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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        Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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        Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
        \n
        Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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        It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
        \n
        But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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        Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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    For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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        Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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        If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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        Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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        Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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        It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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        Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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        I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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        As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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        But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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        The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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        A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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        Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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        Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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        Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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        It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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        But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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        Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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          But I am genuinely curious what you think I’m making assumptions about.
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
          \n
          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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          But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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          The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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          A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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    If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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    Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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    If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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    If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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    From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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    Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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    It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
    \n
    For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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    The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
    \n
    People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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          But I am genuinely curious what you think I’m making assumptions about.
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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          But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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          The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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          A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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    From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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    Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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    It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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    For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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    The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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    People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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    If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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    Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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    If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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    If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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    From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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    Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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    It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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    For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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    The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
    \n
    People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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          Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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          But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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    But I am genuinely curious what you think I’m making assumptions about.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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          But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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          The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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          A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
          \n
          As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
          \n
          But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
          \n
          The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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          A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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          Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
          \n
          Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
          \n
          Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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          It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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          But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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          Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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    Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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    But I am genuinely curious what you think I’m making assumptions about.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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    I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
    \n
    As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
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    But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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    The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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    A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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    Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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    Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
    \n
    Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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    It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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    But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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    Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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          Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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    I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
    \n
    As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
    \n
    But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
    \n
    The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
    \n
    A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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    Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
    \n
    Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
    \n
    Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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    It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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    But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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    Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          Wow… lots of people in here bashing the subscription model, but let me point out it’s maybe not as bad as you think…\n
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          If you sell a product under a perpetual license model (I.e the one-time purchase model). Once you’ve sold the product, the manufacturer has almost no incentive to offering any support or updates to the product. At best it’s a marketing ploy, you offer support only to get word of mouth advertising of your product which is generally a losing proposition.\n
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          Since there’s little incentive to improve the experience for existing customers. Your main income comes from if you can increase your market share which generally means making products bloated often leading to a worse experience for everyone.\n
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          If the customer wants support, you need to sell them a support contract. If they want updates you have to make a new version and hope the customer sees enough additional value to be worth upgrading. Either way we’re back to a subscription model with more steps, more risk, and less upside than market expansion so it takes a backseat.\n
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          If you want to make a great product without some variation on a subscription. You need to invest heavily upfront in development (which most companies don’t have the capital to do, and investors generally won’t invest in unproven software)\n
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          From a product perspective, you don’t know if you’ve hit the mark until people start using your product. The first versions of anything but the most trivial of products is usually terrible, because no matter how good you are, half to three quarters of the ideas you build are going to be crap and not going to be what the customers need.\n
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          Perpetual licensing works for a small single purpose application with no expectation of support or updates.\n
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          It works for applications with broad market needs like office software.\n
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          For most niche applications, subscription models offer a better experience for both the customer and the manufacturer.\n
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          The customer isn’t facing a large transition cost to switch to a competitor’s product like they would if they had to buy a perpetual license of it, so you have a lot more incentive to support and improve your product. You also don’t see significant revenue if the customer that drops your service a couple months in… even more reason to focus on improving the product for existing customers.\n
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          People ought hate the idea of paying small reoccurring fees for software instead of a few big upfront costs. But from a business model perspective, businesses are way more incentivized to focus on making their products better for you under that model.
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          Totally fair if you don’t like the subscription model.\n
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    I will absolutely give you that transitioning an established mature product to the subscription model is usually a terrible idea. Plenty of examples of that going horribly wrong.\n
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    As for subscriptions being a “blatant money grab” that definitely happens sometimes… notably when there’s a mature product with a dominating market share. The company already captured most of the market share, so they can’t get much more revenue from new customers, existing customers are satisfied with the version they have so they’re not buying any updates. Sales go down and someone comes along say just make it a subscription and keep milking the cash cow forever…. Yep, I admit it, that totally happens. The enshitification ensues.\n
    \n
    But none of that’s the fault of the subscription model per se.\n
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    The same subscription model that becomes the incumbent’s downfall, is what creates a market opportunity for a new competitor.\n
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    A new competitor can coming in with a new product that was built with a subscription model from the start. The competitors product is cheap to try for a month, cheap to switch to with no big upfront costs. The newcomers can generally react much faster to customers needs than the incumbent. (Not because of the model, they can because they’re smaller)\n
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    Established software companies doing blatant money grabs happen all the time. Hell most of us are here using Lemmy because Spez attempted a blatant money grab on Reddit. Had nothing to do with the model.\n
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    Subscription model gets a lot of hate because greedy companies tried to use it as a blatant money grab exactly as you described. But it doesn’t have to be that way.\n
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    Subscription models make it easier for newcomers entering a space, which is good for consumers. It’s more compatible with agile development methodologies because you don’t need wait until you’ve bundled enough features together to market it as a new version worth upgrading to. It’s in your best interest to ship new features immediately as they’re developed.\n
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    It’s totally fair of you don’t like the model.\n
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    But the model itself isn’t the problem.\n
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    Shitty companies being greedy will always happen.
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        For the record, yes you need a pilot’s license to fly a hot air balloon.\n
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          Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.\n
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          Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.\n
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    Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.\n
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            Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.\n
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            Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.\n
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