Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
4.87 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.05 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
    +title: "piracy"
    +description: """
      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
      ---
      """
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    +postCount: 7
    +postCommentCount: 149
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    +customCss: null
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  +url: null
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  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
    +title: "piracy"
    +description: """
      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
      ---
      """
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    +entryCommentCount: 20194
    +postCount: 7
    +postCommentCount: 149
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    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729581369 {#275
      date: 2024-10-22 09:16:09.0 +02:00
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    +tags: null
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    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
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  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
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    date: 2023-12-21 22:38:40.0 +01:00
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  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
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    date: 2023-12-19 23:50:19.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
    +title: "piracy"
    +description: """
      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
      ---
      """
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        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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      I’ve got a QNAP. Relatively happy with it, as it’s easier to manage than DIY, but it’s hard to migrate to a different brand as the RAID implementation is proprietary, so can’t just plug the disks in a different brand. First NAS lasted about 7 years until it was too slow, new one is about 5 years and still going strong.\n
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    Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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    If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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      - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
      - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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      Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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      - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
      - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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      - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
      - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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    To piggyback this in agreement, I just watched this the other day\n
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    [youtu.be/C6hf3ddtNCs?si=ig7HpGejsOSvfk9H](https://youtu.be/C6hf3ddtNCs?si=ig7HpGejsOSvfk9H)
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        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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        For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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        A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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        Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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      To piggyback this in agreement, I just watched this the other day\n
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    Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        ---\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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        For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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        A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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    Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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    Another very cool one: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html)
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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        For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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        A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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        Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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      To piggyback this in agreement, I just watched this the other day\n
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    Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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    Another very cool one: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html)
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        ---\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        To piggyback this in agreement, I just watched this the other day\n
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      Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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          - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
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        To piggyback this in agreement, I just watched this the other day\n
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      Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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      Another very cool one: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003125774264.html)
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
          - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
          - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      Those fancy cases are expensive AF. Cool but expensive.\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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      If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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      - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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    > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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    Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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    > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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    Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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    Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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    Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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        ---\n
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        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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        For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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        A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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    > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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    Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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    Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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    Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
          - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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      Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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      Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
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          In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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      > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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      Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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      Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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      Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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          If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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          Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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          A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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          - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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          In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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      > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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      Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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      Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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      Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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            If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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            - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
            - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
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            In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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        > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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        Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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        Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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        Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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            Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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            - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
            - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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            In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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        > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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        Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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        Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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        Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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            If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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            Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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            For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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            A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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            - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
            - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
            - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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            In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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            Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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        +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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        > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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        Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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        Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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        Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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              Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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              **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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              If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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              Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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              For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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              A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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              - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
              - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
              - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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              In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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              Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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          +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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          > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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          Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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          Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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          Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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              Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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              **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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              If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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              Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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              For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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              A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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              - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
              - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
              - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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              In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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              Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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          +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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          > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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          Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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          Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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          Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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      +body: "Yeah its aging but its already running this just fine. Im playing FFXIV with my server runing DS9 as I type this lol. i5 just like you recommended actually."
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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              Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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              **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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              If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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              Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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              For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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              A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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              - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
              - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
              - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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              In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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              Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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          +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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          > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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          Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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          Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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          Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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      +body: "Yeah its aging but its already running this just fine. Im playing FFXIV with my server runing DS9 as I type this lol. i5 just like you recommended actually."
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  +body: "got ya thanks ill read up on all that :D"
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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                Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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                **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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                If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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                Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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                For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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                A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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                - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
                - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
                - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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                In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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                Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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            +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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            > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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            Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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            Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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            Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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        +body: "Yeah its aging but its already running this just fine. Im playing FFXIV with my server runing DS9 as I type this lol. i5 just like you recommended actually."
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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                Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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                **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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                If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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                Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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                For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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                - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
                - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
                - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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                In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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                Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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            > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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            Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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            Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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            Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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                Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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            Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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            Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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            Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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                  Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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                  **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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                  If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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                  Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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                  For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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                  A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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                  - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
                  - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
                  - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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                  In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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                  Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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              +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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              > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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              Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
              \n
              Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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              Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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    +body: "Something you might need: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005515616995.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005515616995.html)"
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                  Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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                  **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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                  If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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                  Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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                  For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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                  A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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                  - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
                  - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
                  - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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                  In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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                  Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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              +body: "Hrm. I hadn’t thought about that. I have never built a pc before but i was thinking about that, probably around august ill be ready, to finally build my first PC to replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that."
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              > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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              Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
              \n
              Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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              Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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          +body: "Yeah its aging but its already running this just fine. Im playing FFXIV with my server runing DS9 as I type this lol. i5 just like you recommended actually."
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        +body: "Well just be sure to remove the GPU, don’t install a GUI and turn on every power saving option on the BIOS / disable hardware you don’t need etc. If you’ve a watt-meter it will make the task easy as you’ll be able to see how much power you can cut back with BIOS tweaks. Sometimes (but not always) even disabling CPU cores helps."
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      +body: "got ya thanks ill read up on all that :D"
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                  Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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                  If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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                  Mini-PCs are also cheap second hand, you might be able to get an 8th Gen Intel CPU for 100-200€. Sometimes you’ll find really old models (i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM) selling for 50€ and while those aren’t usable anymore as a Windows desktop they’re are still more than enough to run your NAS/Cloud solution. I would pick something 6th gen or more recent.\n
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                  For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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                  - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
                  - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
                  - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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                  In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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                  Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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              > replace my current aging gaming PC and was thinking id make this one actually just be the server. I have a closet that shockingly has a power outlet and everything that would be amazing for that.\n
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              Oh yeah, you’re set, no need to look further. Use that hardware, better than having it laying around end up on a garbage pile. If that’s a gamming PC it should be way overkill for what you need but it will get the job done.\n
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              Side note: obviously a HP Mini with an i5 8th gen mobile CPU will be more power efficient but does it really matter? The difference between a 45W or 100W CPU running at idle won’t be that much (they both will downscale to a lower speed like 800Mhz or 1Ghz). Even if the desktop wastes more it will most likely be something like 4 or 5$ more per year to run it so it isn’t worth it to spend more money on a new machine while you’ve that one around.\n
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              Pro tip: remove the GPU from the machine AND if it has integrated graphics don’t run a GUI on it - this will greatly reduce the power consumption of the machine. In fact by not having a GPU installed and not having a GUI running you’ll save more power than by replacing that machine with one of those mini units I suggested.
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, &amp; Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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        ---\n
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      Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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      If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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      - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
      - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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      Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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    CPU - Intel Core i5-7500 @ 3.4GHz (4 cores, 4 threads) Intel HD Graphics 630 RAM - 12 GB DDR4 Disk - 128 GB SSD\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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        If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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        - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
        - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
        - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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          - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        CPU - Intel Core i5-7500 @ 3.4GHz (4 cores, 4 threads) Intel HD Graphics 630 RAM - 12 GB DDR4 Disk - 128 GB SSD\n
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        What do you think of these specs?\n
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        Would I be better off getting M.2 SSDs for the plex server?\n
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        Could these specs stream multiple high quality streams?
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    Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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    I don’t really know what to look for in a gpu is there one you’d recommend? 🙏
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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    Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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    I don’t really know what to look for in a gpu is there one you’d recommend? 🙏
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        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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          If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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          A very important thing for you to consider is the storage / hard drive interface. On a Pi you’re usually constrained to USB for your hard drives, however on a Mini PCs you’ve the following options:\n
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          - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
          - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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        Would I be better off getting M.2 SSDs for the plex server?\n
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        Could these specs stream multiple high quality streams?
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    Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            **I what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC** like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.\n
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            If you plan to create a small NAS for storage and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures.\n
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            For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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            - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
            - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
            - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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          What do you think of these specs?\n
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          Would I be better off getting M.2 SSDs for the plex server?\n
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          Could these specs stream multiple high quality streams?
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      Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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      I don’t really know what to look for in a gpu is there one you’d recommend? 🙏
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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            For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option. Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.\n
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            - USB Storage - is slower and USB isn’t very robust, not recommended, the only advantage here is that you don’t have to DIY anything;\n
            - Some of those machines come with a SATA port and space for a 2.5" hard drive, either use it a single drive if you don’t need much storage or get a [5 SATA port card](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005089493594.html) to expand it;\n
            - Recent models come with a NVME M.2. slot (PCIe) and that can be turned into 6 SATA ports with a [cheap adapter like this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263885851.html).\n
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            In both SATA cases you just have to throw NAS hard drives and a cheap power supply at it and you’ll be done. SATA is faster and way more reliable than USB for storage, it won’t randomly disconnect and you will be able to take full advantage of the disks, no speed limitations like in a typical USB connections. Personally I would pick model that has both the SATA connector and the NVME slot and then use the SATA connector for a small 2.5" SSD (boot drive) and the NVME with the adapter above for the NAS hard drives - this option will give you the best performance.\n
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            Software: run barebones Debian and install everything from scratch OR use something already made like TrueNAS Scale or OpenMediaVault.
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          What do you think of these specs?\n
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          Would I be better off getting M.2 SSDs for the plex server?\n
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          Could these specs stream multiple high quality streams?
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      Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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      I don’t really know what to look for in a gpu is there one you’d recommend? 🙏
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            Build it yourself, avoid proprietary solutions. If you’re after power efficiency go with some ARM board with PCI/M2 slot to use as SATA ports, if you want more performance and want to run a few services on it, get a second hand computer like an HP mini or even a full desktop.\n
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          CPU - Intel Core i5-7500 @ 3.4GHz (4 cores, 4 threads) Intel HD Graphics 630 RAM - 12 GB DDR4 Disk - 128 GB SSD\n
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          What do you think of these specs?\n
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          Could these specs stream multiple high quality streams?
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      Yeah I think so, from what I can gather it is needed for what I want.\n
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      I don’t really know what to look for in a gpu is there one you’d recommend? 🙏
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