GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/27252/New-laptop/top?p=1

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.21
Profiled on
Token
7c5f84

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
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Listener Duration Response 
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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 0.04 ms (none) 
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}
 0.00 ms (none) 
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  -options: [
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 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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      \n
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
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      ### Related Communities\n
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      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    \n
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    - video editing\n
    - vector graphics editing/creation\n
    - good battery life (I don’t want to worry about)\n
    - web navigating, docs, spreadsheets\n
    - USB-C charging would be nice\n
    \n
    I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.\n
    \n
    I would be happy to have some recommendation on what is a good hardware for this use and good brand.\n
    \n
    Thanks!
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    I need to buy a new laptop to replace my 12 years old laptop. I didn’t look after hardware for a while for some personal reasons.\n
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    - video editing\n
    - vector graphics editing/creation\n
    - good battery life (I don’t want to worry about)\n
    - web navigating, docs, spreadsheets\n
    - USB-C charging would be nice\n
    \n
    I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.\n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
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4 DENIED moderate 
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      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    - video editing\n
    - vector graphics editing/creation\n
    - good battery life (I don’t want to worry about)\n
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    - USB-C charging would be nice\n
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      I highly recommend avoiding this rhetoric because you will end up paying more for inferior hardware.\n
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    Ultimately, any discussion on this would boil down to **cost** vs **convenience**. As OP hasn’t explicitly stated anything on this regard, it seems unproductive to delve into this further. However, strictly speaking, I have to agree with you that the Linux-first vendors are (in almost all cases) more expensive. Thank you for pointing that out for OP.\n
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    In case you're as bored as I am 😅.Let’s start with stating some facts from OP: - OP takes the effort to state six wishes/requirements **without mentioning price**. - OP implies to at least have considered the Framework laptop, for which the 16 inch variant -the one actually capable of video editing etc- is not a cheap device either. - OP states: *“I don’t want to worry about”* when talking about battery life. If anything, that sounds like one that would prefer convenience over cost. Therefore, I assumed that OP wasn’t cost-limited by any means (they didn’t state it anyways). Anyhow, allow me to illustrate how much OP might have to *“pay more”* for *“inferior hardware”*: - Found [this one](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/LaptopDeals/comments/18z4hw7/ebay_lenovo_legion_slim_5_16aph8_gaming_laptop_16/) on [old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals](https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals), a site which you mentioned elsewhere under OP. Seems like a cool laptop, not gonna lie. It’s just a random one I picked. Let’s see what we can find on the other side: - Well look at [that](https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-Stellaris-16-Gen5-AMD.tuxedo)? Better CPU and better battery, just all around a great package (it even has a mechanical keyboard?!). Furthermore. better warranty terms and possible to extend to 5 years (compared to a measly 1 year for the other laptop). Yes, it’s a significantly more expensive laptop. But, (for me) it’s clearly the superior deal especially when the Linux support is considered. You’re absolutely free to disagree though 😉.
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      I highly recommend avoiding this rhetoric because you will end up paying more for inferior hardware.\n
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    Ultimately, any discussion on this would boil down to **cost** vs **convenience**. As OP hasn’t explicitly stated anything on this regard, it seems unproductive to delve into this further. However, strictly speaking, I have to agree with you that the Linux-first vendors are (in almost all cases) more expensive. Thank you for pointing that out for OP.\n
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    In case you're as bored as I am 😅.Let’s start with stating some facts from OP: - OP takes the effort to state six wishes/requirements **without mentioning price**. - OP implies to at least have considered the Framework laptop, for which the 16 inch variant -the one actually capable of video editing etc- is not a cheap device either. - OP states: *“I don’t want to worry about”* when talking about battery life. If anything, that sounds like one that would prefer convenience over cost. Therefore, I assumed that OP wasn’t cost-limited by any means (they didn’t state it anyways). Anyhow, allow me to illustrate how much OP might have to *“pay more”* for *“inferior hardware”*: - Found [this one](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/LaptopDeals/comments/18z4hw7/ebay_lenovo_legion_slim_5_16aph8_gaming_laptop_16/) on [old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals](https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals), a site which you mentioned elsewhere under OP. Seems like a cool laptop, not gonna lie. It’s just a random one I picked. Let’s see what we can find on the other side: - Well look at [that](https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-Stellaris-16-Gen5-AMD.tuxedo)? Better CPU and better battery, just all around a great package (it even has a mechanical keyboard?!). Furthermore. better warranty terms and possible to extend to 5 years (compared to a measly 1 year for the other laptop). Yes, it’s a significantly more expensive laptop. But, (for me) it’s clearly the superior deal especially when the Linux support is considered. You’re absolutely free to disagree though 😉.
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      I highly recommend avoiding this rhetoric because you will end up paying more for inferior hardware.\n
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    Ultimately, any discussion on this would boil down to **cost** vs **convenience**. As OP hasn’t explicitly stated anything on this regard, it seems unproductive to delve into this further. However, strictly speaking, I have to agree with you that the Linux-first vendors are (in almost all cases) more expensive. Thank you for pointing that out for OP.\n
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    In case you're as bored as I am 😅.Let’s start with stating some facts from OP: - OP takes the effort to state six wishes/requirements **without mentioning price**. - OP implies to at least have considered the Framework laptop, for which the 16 inch variant -the one actually capable of video editing etc- is not a cheap device either. - OP states: *“I don’t want to worry about”* when talking about battery life. If anything, that sounds like one that would prefer convenience over cost. Therefore, I assumed that OP wasn’t cost-limited by any means (they didn’t state it anyways). Anyhow, allow me to illustrate how much OP might have to *“pay more”* for *“inferior hardware”*: - Found [this one](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/LaptopDeals/comments/18z4hw7/ebay_lenovo_legion_slim_5_16aph8_gaming_laptop_16/) on [old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals](https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals), a site which you mentioned elsewhere under OP. Seems like a cool laptop, not gonna lie. It’s just a random one I picked. Let’s see what we can find on the other side: - Well look at [that](https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-Stellaris-16-Gen5-AMD.tuxedo)? Better CPU and better battery, just all around a great package (it even has a mechanical keyboard?!). Furthermore. better warranty terms and possible to extend to 5 years (compared to a measly 1 year for the other laptop). Yes, it’s a significantly more expensive laptop. But, (for me) it’s clearly the superior deal especially when the Linux support is considered. You’re absolutely free to disagree though 😉.
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      That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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    Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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    Edit: Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had. Whoever down voted me… Can you correct me and tell me the correct answer for what has been the best Linux experience on a laptop? I’m obviously mistaken.
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      That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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    Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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      That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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    Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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        That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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      Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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      Anyway, as I said before, it has been the single greatest Linux experience on a laptop I’ve ever had. Everything just works, and it’s been rock solid. I’ve been running this machine as a daily driver for work now for about three years.\n
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      Edit: Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had. Whoever down voted me… Can you correct me and tell me the correct answer for what has been the best Linux experience on a laptop? I’m obviously mistaken.
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    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I’m afraid it might not be very relevant as it’s a device that’s at least 6 years old by now 😅 (at least according to [this source](https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X1_Carbon). Regardless, user experiences are valuable. And I’m glad to hear that the device has been working flawlessly for you so far 😊.\n
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    > Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had.\n
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    Haters gonna hate, I guess. Don’t worry too much about it. The thread you’re in (so the one starting with my first reply under this post) also is the most controversial under this post. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks just down voted indiscriminately for… some reason…
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        +body: "Just my two cents… But my x1 carbon, running tumbleweed has been my single greatest Linux on laptop experience, ever… And I’ve used many different laptops over the years. System76, framework, Lenovo, Dell, Asus, hp, apple… My x1 has been absolutely amazing!"
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        That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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        - Which GPU?\n
        - How has the battery life been? Consider both light and heavy use*\n
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        Thank you in advance!
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      Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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      Anyway, as I said before, it has been the single greatest Linux experience on a laptop I’ve ever had. Everything just works, and it’s been rock solid. I’ve been running this machine as a daily driver for work now for about three years.\n
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      Edit: Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had. Whoever down voted me… Can you correct me and tell me the correct answer for what has been the best Linux experience on a laptop? I’m obviously mistaken.
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    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I’m afraid it might not be very relevant as it’s a device that’s at least 6 years old by now 😅 (at least according to [this source](https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X1_Carbon). Regardless, user experiences are valuable. And I’m glad to hear that the device has been working flawlessly for you so far 😊.\n
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    > Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had.\n
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    Haters gonna hate, I guess. Don’t worry too much about it. The thread you’re in (so the one starting with my first reply under this post) also is the most controversial under this post. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks just down voted indiscriminately for… some reason…
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:\n
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      Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).\n
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      Anyway, as I said before, it has been the single greatest Linux experience on a laptop I’ve ever had. Everything just works, and it’s been rock solid. I’ve been running this machine as a daily driver for work now for about three years.\n
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      Edit: Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had. Whoever down voted me… Can you correct me and tell me the correct answer for what has been the best Linux experience on a laptop? I’m obviously mistaken.
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    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I’m afraid it might not be very relevant as it’s a device that’s at least 6 years old by now 😅 (at least according to [this source](https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X1_Carbon). Regardless, user experiences are valuable. And I’m glad to hear that the device has been working flawlessly for you so far 😊.\n
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    > Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had.\n
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    Haters gonna hate, I guess. Don’t worry too much about it. The thread you’re in (so the one starting with my first reply under this post) also is the most controversial under this post. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks just down voted indiscriminately for… some reason…
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    > They said they don’t game.\n
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    > They said they don’t game.\n
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    OP mentioned the intent to do video editing on the device. Unfortunately, the amount of good video editors on Linux is currently limited to just Davinci Resolve(; sure, the likes of Kdenlive (etc) exists, but none of them are very suitable for professional usage^[1]^). While I’m thankful that Davinci Resolve works on Linux, [it’s -according to their own documentation- simply not possible to make use of it without a dedicated GPU (at least on Linux)](https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/readme/f8446f16ba784318bfbf092a3094106d). Thus, warranting the need for a dedicated GPU.\n
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      Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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    Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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    > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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    Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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    Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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    > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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    > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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    I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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    Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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    > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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    Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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    Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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    > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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    > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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    I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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    Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.\n
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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    Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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        Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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        - No misinformation\n
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        - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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    Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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    Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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      Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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      Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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      Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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        Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      I will buy something new. My needs are:\n
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      I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.\n
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              +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        +body: "Can we discontinue the /s please. Its just cringe and adds nothing. (Minor pet peeve)"
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        Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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        Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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              +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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        Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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              +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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        Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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          Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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                +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
              \n
              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
              \n
              Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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              > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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          Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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                +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
                \n
                The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
              \n
              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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              Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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              > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          +body: "Can we discontinue the /s please. Its just cringe and adds nothing. (Minor pet peeve)"
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          Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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          Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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      +body: "The /s is cheap, lazy and sometimes rude. I’ve never seen it add anything and at worst it can be a insult to someone’s intelligence."
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                  +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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            Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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            Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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                  +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
                \n
                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
                \n
                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
                \n
                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
                \n
                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
                \n
                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            +body: "Can we discontinue the /s please. Its just cringe and adds nothing. (Minor pet peeve)"
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            Hmm…, I think with the level of literacy (or just plain text skimping) we find on the internet, anything that helps in conveying the message is a clear win; especially if merely the use of just two characters enables one to achieve this.\n
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            Could you elaborate on what you dislike about it? I’m just genuinely curious*.
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        +body: "The /s is cheap, lazy and sometimes rude. I’ve never seen it add anything and at worst it can be a insult to someone’s intelligence."
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        +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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    That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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    WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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        +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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      That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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      That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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          +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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      That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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        That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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        WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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        That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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        WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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            +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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            Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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          > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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          > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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          Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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          > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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          Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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          > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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          > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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          I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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        > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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        That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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        WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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              +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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          That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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          WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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    > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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              +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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              Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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            > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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            Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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            > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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            Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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            > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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            Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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            > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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            Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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            > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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            I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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          > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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          That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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          WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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    > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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              Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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            That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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            WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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      > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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                +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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              Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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              > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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            That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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            WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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      > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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      Fixed that for you*.
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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        Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
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        Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      I will buy something new. My needs are:\n
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      I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.\n
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                +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
                \n
                The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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              > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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              Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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              > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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              Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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              > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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              Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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              > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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              Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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              > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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              I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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            > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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            That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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            WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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        +body: "So what happens is that changing the keyboard language comes together with the CPU upgrade from Intel® Core® i3-1315U to Intel® Core® i7-1360P. That’s what you pay for*. I agree with you that they might have done a better job at conveying what’s happening. For whatever it’s worth, I didn’t immediately notice this myself. Therefore I tried to contact them in hopes of resolving the issue. They responded very quickly (like within a couple of minutes) and explained what was going on. Props to them for that!"
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      > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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              > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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              That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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        > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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        Fixed that for you*.
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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              > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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              That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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              WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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        > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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        Fixed that for you*.
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                  +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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                  Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                  The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                  Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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                > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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                Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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                > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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                Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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                > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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                Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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                > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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                Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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                > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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                I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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              > Yup, clearly. /s\n
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              That seemed nice until… ![400€ for keyboard change](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e1cc9377-6457-4290-b6da-3d615affde0b.png)\n
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              WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?
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        +body: "Good on them for explaining. But at that price, why even propose the option? That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout where it’s free everywhere else."
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        > That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout **and a CPU upgrade**\n
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        Fixed that for you*.
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
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    Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    That’s fine, if that’s what you want. There’s nothing inherently *wrong* with using Pop.\n
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    Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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    Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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    > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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    Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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    The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
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    I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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    I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
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    I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
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    It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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    These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
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    Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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    Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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    > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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    Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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    The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
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    I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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    I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
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    I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
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    It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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      > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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      > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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      Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
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      Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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      Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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    > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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    To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
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    Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    That’s fine, if that’s what you want. There’s nothing inherently *wrong* with using Pop.\n
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    Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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    Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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    > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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    Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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    The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
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    I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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    I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
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    I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
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    It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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    These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
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        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
        \n
        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
        \n
        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
        \n
        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
      \n
      Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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      That’s fine, if that’s what you want. There’s nothing inherently *wrong* with using Pop.\n
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      Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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      Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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      > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
      > \n
      > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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      The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
      \n
      I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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      I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
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      I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
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      It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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      These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.
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    Thank you for your reply! Much appreciated ☺️!\n
    \n
    > To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc).\n
    \n
    Thanks! That’s the clarification that I needed.\n
    \n
    > This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it seemed that way, that wasn’t my intention.\n
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    > Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux\n
    \n
    In absolute sense, to the kernel; sure.\n
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    > it’s **yet another** Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu.\n
    \n
    That’s where we clearly differ. It offers (arguably) the easiest installation for Nvidia drivers (which is especially useful for new users). Furthermore, it has other neat functionality like a [recovery partition](https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-recovery/); which is otherwise absent on any other Linux distro (at least that I’m aware off). I agree that these things mostly benefit the new user rather than the established one. Nonetheless, even if we’re not the target audience, we shouldn’t be dismissive of the work that others put into their platform.\n
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    > Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day.\n
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    How can it be for GNOME if it’s its own Desktop Environment? Sure, it relies on GTK (like most other DEs). But it’s a Rust-based DE, which is (AFAIK) unique and already commendable by itself. Again, I don’t understand if you’re just trying to be dismissive of other people’s work or just being ignorant/misinformed.\n
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    > System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    While this particular case is new to me, I can’t say I’m surprised. FWIW, even Linux Torvalds himself needed to put effort in self-improving themselves in this department. Therefore, I don’t quite understand why you felt the need to bring this up. FWIW, I never said or implied that System76 is some holy organization that can’t do anything wrong. You made a vague statement with *“The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule”* and I only intended to point out some of their continued contributions to *‘Linux’*. I could have named any other Linux-first vendor, but System76 seemed to be the most renowned and that’s why I went with that one.\n
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    > Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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    That’s unfortunate. And I think that this short paragraph is the summary of your grievances with these Linux-first vendors. And if that’s the case, then it’s at least worth mentioning that I’m absolutely oblivious of the challenges that you might have faced in this regard.\n
    \n
    This sentiment made me very curious into how much laptop vendors contribute to the Linux kernel in general^[1]^. Unfortunately, there was not a lot that I could find. Perhaps I’m just very bad at looking into that kinda thing. Therefore, if you’re aware of a (half-)decent way to somehow see how much effort is done by different laptop vendors in order to support hardware on Linux, then please feel free to notify me of that 😊.\n
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    > Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
    \n
    I’d have to take your word on it as you’re clearly more experienced in this regard. But would you be so kind to give an example of two comparable laptops at comparable price-points; one from Clevo and another from a major manufacturer, in which the lack of polish is clearly visible? Like, if I as an average consumer look at the review on the [Schenker XMG Focus 16 found on Notebookcheck.net](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Focus-16-laptop-review-A-gaming-machine-assembled-in-Germany.680138.0.html) and compare that to the reviews of the laptops it’s compared to in its verdict, then I don’t notice anything significant. Note that I’ve mostly just skimped the reviews*.\n
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    > Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
    \n
    No problem. Thank you for clarifying!\n
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    > I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them.\n
    \n
    Thank you for your continued contributions 😊!\n
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    > I’m not saying that it’s all bad\n
    \n
    This wasn’t clear in your first reply.\n
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    > and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it came across like that, I certainly didn’t intend that*. To perhaps better illustrate how I read your first reply, allow me to paste it down below:\n
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    My inner thoughts while reading your first reply> Please don’t Alright, they’re not in favor of it, which is totally fine. Let’s see what they bring up. > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs. False. (I pointed this out in my earlier reply.) > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule Vague statement at best. But if **support** isn’t specified as **hardware support**, then it’s another false statement. > and the hardware is “fine” at best. Another vague statement; but at least their alternative should be better, right? > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. First time hearing this. Internet search didn’t give me any pointers. All of their statements so far haven’t been written with care, perhaps they’ve been smoking something. But I’ll give them the benefit of doubt and ask them how this works. > No compromises were made on this hardware. Alright, so they’ve somehow managed something incredible (if at all). I’m sure they’ll tell us what this is and how this is not Clevo. (**In retrospect**, what did you actually mean with this statement?) > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge. Okay, I guess that’s to be expected. But I don’t recall a great experience looking into their catalogue the last time. ***checks***; yup, still lackluster at best (pointed to this in my earlier reply). (Back to normal mode) So, to sum it up: I didn’t like your alternatives and stated why. As to your criticism towards Linux-first vendors; 1 false statement, 1 vague statement, 1 false/vague statement. Furthermore, there was a vague description of a device which initially seemed custom at best, but in retrospect seems to be a Clevo after all 😅.\n
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    > It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
    \n
    Agreed. I probably couldn’t have said it better. But, this doesn’t mean that Dell or Lenovo (or any other major manufacturer for that matter) themselves actually accomplish in making good products. Theoretically, they should be able to produce either better (and/)or cheaper devices. However, the fact of the matter is that this simply isn’t the case (or at least not substantially/significantly). The Thinkpads sold today are just an excuse compared to the Thinkpads that were sold in the past. Similarly, Dell’s XPS series shook the market in the past, but now they’ve stuck on a bad implementation of what Apple^[2]^ deemed unworthy (talking about touch instead real keys for function keys (etc)).\n
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    > These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.\n
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    Alright, so I suppose this is a reaction to the following statements of mine:\n
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    > *“At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.”*\n
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    I’m sure earlier paragraphs should have been sufficient to explain my thoughts on this. But just in case; they’re not perfect. But -IMO- for OP’s requirements, they’re at the very least worth considering.\n
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    1. I, perhaps naively, think that contributions to the Linux kernel are most representative for hardware support. Please correct me if I’m wrong.\n
    2. Suffice to say, Apple actually had put thought into their design. Contrary to Dell’s excuse of an implementation.\n
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          Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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          The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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          Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
        \n
        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
        \n
        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
        \n
        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
        \n
        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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      To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
      \n
      Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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      That’s fine, if that’s what you want. There’s nothing inherently *wrong* with using Pop.\n
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      Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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      Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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      > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
      > \n
      > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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      The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
      \n
      I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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      I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
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      I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
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      It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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      These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.
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    Thank you for your reply! Much appreciated ☺️!\n
    \n
    > To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc).\n
    \n
    Thanks! That’s the clarification that I needed.\n
    \n
    > This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it seemed that way, that wasn’t my intention.\n
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    > Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux\n
    \n
    In absolute sense, to the kernel; sure.\n
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    > it’s **yet another** Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu.\n
    \n
    That’s where we clearly differ. It offers (arguably) the easiest installation for Nvidia drivers (which is especially useful for new users). Furthermore, it has other neat functionality like a [recovery partition](https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-recovery/); which is otherwise absent on any other Linux distro (at least that I’m aware off). I agree that these things mostly benefit the new user rather than the established one. Nonetheless, even if we’re not the target audience, we shouldn’t be dismissive of the work that others put into their platform.\n
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    > Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day.\n
    \n
    How can it be for GNOME if it’s its own Desktop Environment? Sure, it relies on GTK (like most other DEs). But it’s a Rust-based DE, which is (AFAIK) unique and already commendable by itself. Again, I don’t understand if you’re just trying to be dismissive of other people’s work or just being ignorant/misinformed.\n
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    > System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    While this particular case is new to me, I can’t say I’m surprised. FWIW, even Linux Torvalds himself needed to put effort in self-improving themselves in this department. Therefore, I don’t quite understand why you felt the need to bring this up. FWIW, I never said or implied that System76 is some holy organization that can’t do anything wrong. You made a vague statement with *“The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule”* and I only intended to point out some of their continued contributions to *‘Linux’*. I could have named any other Linux-first vendor, but System76 seemed to be the most renowned and that’s why I went with that one.\n
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    > Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
    \n
    That’s unfortunate. And I think that this short paragraph is the summary of your grievances with these Linux-first vendors. And if that’s the case, then it’s at least worth mentioning that I’m absolutely oblivious of the challenges that you might have faced in this regard.\n
    \n
    This sentiment made me very curious into how much laptop vendors contribute to the Linux kernel in general^[1]^. Unfortunately, there was not a lot that I could find. Perhaps I’m just very bad at looking into that kinda thing. Therefore, if you’re aware of a (half-)decent way to somehow see how much effort is done by different laptop vendors in order to support hardware on Linux, then please feel free to notify me of that 😊.\n
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    > Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
    \n
    I’d have to take your word on it as you’re clearly more experienced in this regard. But would you be so kind to give an example of two comparable laptops at comparable price-points; one from Clevo and another from a major manufacturer, in which the lack of polish is clearly visible? Like, if I as an average consumer look at the review on the [Schenker XMG Focus 16 found on Notebookcheck.net](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Focus-16-laptop-review-A-gaming-machine-assembled-in-Germany.680138.0.html) and compare that to the reviews of the laptops it’s compared to in its verdict, then I don’t notice anything significant. Note that I’ve mostly just skimped the reviews*.\n
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    > Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
    \n
    No problem. Thank you for clarifying!\n
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    > I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them.\n
    \n
    Thank you for your continued contributions 😊!\n
    \n
    > I’m not saying that it’s all bad\n
    \n
    This wasn’t clear in your first reply.\n
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    > and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it came across like that, I certainly didn’t intend that*. To perhaps better illustrate how I read your first reply, allow me to paste it down below:\n
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    My inner thoughts while reading your first reply> Please don’t Alright, they’re not in favor of it, which is totally fine. Let’s see what they bring up. > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs. False. (I pointed this out in my earlier reply.) > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule Vague statement at best. But if **support** isn’t specified as **hardware support**, then it’s another false statement. > and the hardware is “fine” at best. Another vague statement; but at least their alternative should be better, right? > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. First time hearing this. Internet search didn’t give me any pointers. All of their statements so far haven’t been written with care, perhaps they’ve been smoking something. But I’ll give them the benefit of doubt and ask them how this works. > No compromises were made on this hardware. Alright, so they’ve somehow managed something incredible (if at all). I’m sure they’ll tell us what this is and how this is not Clevo. (**In retrospect**, what did you actually mean with this statement?) > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge. Okay, I guess that’s to be expected. But I don’t recall a great experience looking into their catalogue the last time. ***checks***; yup, still lackluster at best (pointed to this in my earlier reply). (Back to normal mode) So, to sum it up: I didn’t like your alternatives and stated why. As to your criticism towards Linux-first vendors; 1 false statement, 1 vague statement, 1 false/vague statement. Furthermore, there was a vague description of a device which initially seemed custom at best, but in retrospect seems to be a Clevo after all 😅.\n
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    > It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
    \n
    Agreed. I probably couldn’t have said it better. But, this doesn’t mean that Dell or Lenovo (or any other major manufacturer for that matter) themselves actually accomplish in making good products. Theoretically, they should be able to produce either better (and/)or cheaper devices. However, the fact of the matter is that this simply isn’t the case (or at least not substantially/significantly). The Thinkpads sold today are just an excuse compared to the Thinkpads that were sold in the past. Similarly, Dell’s XPS series shook the market in the past, but now they’ve stuck on a bad implementation of what Apple^[2]^ deemed unworthy (talking about touch instead real keys for function keys (etc)).\n
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    Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure pretty soon (probs with Meteor Lake already) Dell’s and Lenovo’s Linux offerings (so talking strictly about a subset of their offerings, refer to my earlier reply for the links) will at least be considerable CPU-wise. But until then, if anyone is serious about using their laptop as a proper workstation with somewhat decent battery life^[3]^, then it’s simply not worth to bother with Dell (like at all) or Lenovo (unless they’re willing to pay a hefty price for it).\n
    \n
    So just to be absolutely clear. I don’t categorically dismiss Dell, Lenovo or any other major manufacturer for that matter. But for OP’s requirements; currently, they seem to be (at best) very expensive.\n
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    > These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.\n
    \n
    Alright, so I suppose this is a reaction to the following statements of mine:\n
    \n
    > *“Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.”*\n
    \n
    > *“At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.”*\n
    \n
    I’m sure earlier paragraphs should have been sufficient to explain my thoughts on this. But just in case; they’re not perfect. But -IMO- for OP’s requirements, they’re at the very least worth considering.\n
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    1. I, perhaps naively, think that contributions to the Linux kernel are most representative for hardware support. Please correct me if I’m wrong.\n
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        > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
        \n
        Yup, [clearly](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T6IuzQehsrA). /s\n
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        > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule\n
        \n
        Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
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        > the hardware is “fine” at best\n
        \n
        Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.\n
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        > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
        \n
        Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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        > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.\n
        \n
        I don’t deny this. However, [none of Dell’s laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel’s latest Meteor Lake CPUs)](https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/ubuntu?r=36679&p=1&ac=facetselect&t=Product). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it’s not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the [Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/results?visibleDatas=698%3AIdeaPad%2CThinkPad%3B696%3AAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25207%2520PRO%2CAMD%2520Ryzen%25E2%2584%25A2%25209%2520PRO%3B710%3ANVIDIA%2520RTX%25E2%2584%25A2&sortBy=priceUp). At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.
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      > Wow, that’s a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.\n
      \n
      To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc). This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
      \n
      Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux; it’s yet another Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu. Take this from me as a system admin who has supported (and used) Pop, and has had to dig into the internals and submit bugs. Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day. System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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      That’s fine, if that’s what you want. There’s nothing inherently *wrong* with using Pop.\n
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      Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
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      Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
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      > > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.\n
      > \n
      > Hmm…, very interesting! I’m totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If **that** is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.\n
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      Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
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      The Clevo NH58AD can be specced with a Ryzen 7 3700X and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. I have one. There are definitely trade-offs and for some reason the damned thing is quite unstable with 3200MHz RAM even though it’s explicitly supported.\n
      \n
      I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them. In my professional life I’ve managed fleets of Laptops from major manufacturers (particularly the business-y lines), with some rebadged Clevos (for some reason) at the mix. I am speaking from experience with the hardware here.\n
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      I actually have another previous gen Intel one, too - it has some interesting design choices.\n
      \n
      I’m not saying that it’s all bad, and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
      \n
      It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
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      These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.
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    Thank you for your reply! Much appreciated ☺️!\n
    \n
    > To clarify, they do jack shit to add major hardware support (etc).\n
    \n
    Thanks! That’s the clarification that I needed.\n
    \n
    > This seems like a disingenuous response.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it seemed that way, that wasn’t my intention.\n
    \n
    > Pop isn’t *adding* anything much to Linux\n
    \n
    In absolute sense, to the kernel; sure.\n
    \n
    > it’s **yet another** Debian derivative by way of Ubuntu.\n
    \n
    That’s where we clearly differ. It offers (arguably) the easiest installation for Nvidia drivers (which is especially useful for new users). Furthermore, it has other neat functionality like a [recovery partition](https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-recovery/); which is otherwise absent on any other Linux distro (at least that I’m aware off). I agree that these things mostly benefit the new user rather than the established one. Nonetheless, even if we’re not the target audience, we shouldn’t be dismissive of the work that others put into their platform.\n
    \n
    > Cosmic is cool and all, but it’s mostly just eye candy for GNOME at the end of the day.\n
    \n
    How can it be for GNOME if it’s its own Desktop Environment? Sure, it relies on GTK (like most other DEs). But it’s a Rust-based DE, which is (AFAIK) unique and already commendable by itself. Again, I don’t understand if you’re just trying to be dismissive of other people’s work or just being ignorant/misinformed.\n
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    > System76 also seem to still be developing [working with other people](https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/patch/84162cdd-cf70-4148-96ea-2a9d28a37ae2@app.fastmail.com/) skills.\n
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    While this particular case is new to me, I can’t say I’m surprised. FWIW, even Linux Torvalds himself needed to put effort in self-improving themselves in this department. Therefore, I don’t quite understand why you felt the need to bring this up. FWIW, I never said or implied that System76 is some holy organization that can’t do anything wrong. You made a vague statement with *“The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule”* and I only intended to point out some of their continued contributions to *‘Linux’*. I could have named any other Linux-first vendor, but System76 seemed to be the most renowned and that’s why I went with that one.\n
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    > Tuxedo still haven’t as far as I’m aware released ITE829x Linux drivers (in an upstreamable form) for example; I had to reverse engineer the damned chip.\n
    \n
    That’s unfortunate. And I think that this short paragraph is the summary of your grievances with these Linux-first vendors. And if that’s the case, then it’s at least worth mentioning that I’m absolutely oblivious of the challenges that you might have faced in this regard.\n
    \n
    This sentiment made me very curious into how much laptop vendors contribute to the Linux kernel in general^[1]^. Unfortunately, there was not a lot that I could find. Perhaps I’m just very bad at looking into that kinda thing. Therefore, if you’re aware of a (half-)decent way to somehow see how much effort is done by different laptop vendors in order to support hardware on Linux, then please feel free to notify me of that 😊.\n
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    > Clevo hardware lacks a lot of the polish that you just quietly get from a major manufacturer.\n
    \n
    I’d have to take your word on it as you’re clearly more experienced in this regard. But would you be so kind to give an example of two comparable laptops at comparable price-points; one from Clevo and another from a major manufacturer, in which the lack of polish is clearly visible? Like, if I as an average consumer look at the review on the [Schenker XMG Focus 16 found on Notebookcheck.net](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Focus-16-laptop-review-A-gaming-machine-assembled-in-Germany.680138.0.html) and compare that to the reviews of the laptops it’s compared to in its verdict, then I don’t notice anything significant. Note that I’ve mostly just skimped the reviews*.\n
    \n
    > Sorry, the 3060ti was conflating my desktop; it’s literally a 2060 which is far worse in terms of termals and power.\n
    \n
    No problem. Thank you for clarifying!\n
    \n
    > I *have* this laptop. I look at the Linux offerings from these manufacturers. I *contribute* to them.\n
    \n
    Thank you for your continued contributions 😊!\n
    \n
    > I’m not saying that it’s all bad\n
    \n
    This wasn’t clear in your first reply.\n
    \n
    > and you seem to be taking this as something of a personal attack.\n
    \n
    My apologies if it came across like that, I certainly didn’t intend that*. To perhaps better illustrate how I read your first reply, allow me to paste it down below:\n
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    My inner thoughts while reading your first reply> Please don’t Alright, they’re not in favor of it, which is totally fine. Let’s see what they bring up. > tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs. False. (I pointed this out in my earlier reply.) > The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule Vague statement at best. But if **support** isn’t specified as **hardware support**, then it’s another false statement. > and the hardware is “fine” at best. Another vague statement; but at least their alternative should be better, right? > I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. First time hearing this. Internet search didn’t give me any pointers. All of their statements so far haven’t been written with care, perhaps they’ve been smoking something. But I’ll give them the benefit of doubt and ask them how this works. > No compromises were made on this hardware. Alright, so they’ve somehow managed something incredible (if at all). I’m sure they’ll tell us what this is and how this is not Clevo. (**In retrospect**, what did you actually mean with this statement?) > Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge. Okay, I guess that’s to be expected. But I don’t recall a great experience looking into their catalogue the last time. ***checks***; yup, still lackluster at best (pointed to this in my earlier reply). (Back to normal mode) So, to sum it up: I didn’t like your alternatives and stated why. As to your criticism towards Linux-first vendors; 1 false statement, 1 vague statement, 1 false/vague statement. Furthermore, there was a vague description of a device which initially seemed custom at best, but in retrospect seems to be a Clevo after all 😅.\n
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    \n
    > It’s fine to like these companies. I want them to succeed, but Clevo as an ODM tend to produce products that lack the polish of a comparable (say) Dell, and don’t achieve the same volume of sales as a major manufacturer to achieve lower costs through increased volume (etc) - the cost savings have to come from somewhere and often that’s the firmware, material design, and design quality.\n
    \n
    Agreed. I probably couldn’t have said it better. But, this doesn’t mean that Dell or Lenovo (or any other major manufacturer for that matter) themselves actually accomplish in making good products. Theoretically, they should be able to produce either better (and/)or cheaper devices. However, the fact of the matter is that this simply isn’t the case (or at least not substantially/significantly). The Thinkpads sold today are just an excuse compared to the Thinkpads that were sold in the past. Similarly, Dell’s XPS series shook the market in the past, but now they’ve stuck on a bad implementation of what Apple^[2]^ deemed unworthy (talking about touch instead real keys for function keys (etc)).\n
    \n
    Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure pretty soon (probs with Meteor Lake already) Dell’s and Lenovo’s Linux offerings (so talking strictly about a subset of their offerings, refer to my earlier reply for the links) will at least be considerable CPU-wise. But until then, if anyone is serious about using their laptop as a proper workstation with somewhat decent battery life^[3]^, then it’s simply not worth to bother with Dell (like at all) or Lenovo (unless they’re willing to pay a hefty price for it).\n
    \n
    So just to be absolutely clear. I don’t categorically dismiss Dell, Lenovo or any other major manufacturer for that matter. But for OP’s requirements; currently, they seem to be (at best) very expensive.\n
    \n
    > These products are fine, don’t pretend that they’re perfect though, you’re doing them a disservice.\n
    \n
    Alright, so I suppose this is a reaction to the following statements of mine:\n
    \n
    > *“Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple’s finest go beyond “fine”.”*\n
    \n
    > *“At which point, the “fine” hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.”*\n
    \n
    I’m sure earlier paragraphs should have been sufficient to explain my thoughts on this. But just in case; they’re not perfect. But -IMO- for OP’s requirements, they’re at the very least worth considering.\n
    \n
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    1. I, perhaps naively, think that contributions to the Linux kernel are most representative for hardware support. Please correct me if I’m wrong.\n
    2. Suffice to say, Apple actually had put thought into their design. Contrary to Dell’s excuse of an implementation.\n
    3. Reminder; OP explicitly wanted this.
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      +body: "My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over [here](https://farside.link/libreddit/r/linuxhardware/wiki/vendors/) come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number."
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      Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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      Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.
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    That’s good for you, really. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it and I’m not going to have a go at you for liking a brand.\n
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    I have several rebadged Clevos just through happenstance - right place right time deals. For what I paid they are great laptops - I wouldn’t buy one new though. My old (secondhand) XPS 15 was a far superior experience overall while still packing broadly similar hardware to one of my Clevos - I ended up giving it away when I got a 3700X based system which just lacks some of the polish that you get from a major manufacturer.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    That’s good for you, really. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it and I’m not going to have a go at you for liking a brand.\n
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    I have several rebadged Clevos just through happenstance - right place right time deals. For what I paid they are great laptops - I wouldn’t buy one new though. My old (secondhand) XPS 15 was a far superior experience overall while still packing broadly similar hardware to one of my Clevos - I ended up giving it away when I got a 3700X based system which just lacks some of the polish that you get from a major manufacturer.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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    That’s good for you, really. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it and I’m not going to have a go at you for liking a brand.\n
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    I have several rebadged Clevos just through happenstance - right place right time deals. For what I paid they are great laptops - I wouldn’t buy one new though. My old (secondhand) XPS 15 was a far superior experience overall while still packing broadly similar hardware to one of my Clevos - I ended up giving it away when I got a 3700X based system which just lacks some of the polish that you get from a major manufacturer.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        Please don’t; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.\n
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        The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is “fine” at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. *No* compromises were made on this hardware.\n
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