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Over the years I’ve been trying to encapsulate, as simply as possible, what Beehaw interactions would look like ideally.\n
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This is the problem that our endeavor is experiencing. The open nature of ActivityPub (allowing anyone to join our table) is defeating our purpose.\n
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If Beehaw chooses to leave the fediverse and defederate everyone, I wish them all the best, but I know I personally will not be joining.\n
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I’ve had enough of walled gardens and private spaces, I chose the fediverse because Reddit started forcing decisions I didn’t like, like which apps I could use or how I interact with the communities I enjoy. The fediverse allows me the choice to choose what communities I want to subscribe to on my own terms, and that isn’t something I want to let go of easily.\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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As for OSS - sure, someone can come along and make an OSS solution. Until then - I don’t really care. Same thing with cloud providers. It’s all well and good to have opinions about OSS, but when it comes to companies being able to push code quickly and scalably, then yeah I’m hiring the ops team who knows kubernetes and containerization vs someone who’s going to spend weeks trying to spin up bare iron machines.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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Hi! Question in the title.\n
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I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:\n
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- runs everything as root (not many well built images with proper useranagement it seems)\n
- you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it\n
- lots of mess in the system (mounts, fake networks, rules…)\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
\n
Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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As for the security concerns, they are indeed security concerns. Again imagine you’re a sysadmin - you could direct developers that they can’t use root, that they need to be built on OS’s with the latest patches. But you’re at home, so you’re at the mercy of whoever built the image.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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Hi! Question in the title.\n
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I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:\n
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- you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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As for the security concerns, they are indeed security concerns. Again imagine you’re a sysadmin - you could direct developers that they can’t use root, that they need to be built on OS’s with the latest patches. But you’re at home, so you’re at the mercy of whoever built the image.\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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As for OSS - sure, someone can come along and make an OSS solution. Until then - I don’t really care. Same thing with cloud providers. It’s all well and good to have opinions about OSS, but when it comes to companies being able to push code quickly and scalably, then yeah I’m hiring the ops team who knows kubernetes and containerization vs someone who’s going to spend weeks trying to spin up bare iron machines.
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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As for the security concerns, they are indeed security concerns. Again imagine you’re a sysadmin - you could direct developers that they can’t use root, that they need to be built on OS’s with the latest patches. But you’re at home, so you’re at the mercy of whoever built the image.\n
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Now that being said, since you’re at their mercy, their code isn’t going to get much safer whether you run it bare-iron or containerized. So, do you want to spend hours for each app figuring out how to run it, or spend a few hours now to learn docker and then have it standardized?
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Hi! Question in the title.\n
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I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:\n
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- runs everything as root (not many well built images with proper useranagement it seems)\n
- you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it\n
- lots of mess in the system (mounts, fake networks, rules…)\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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As for OSS - sure, someone can come along and make an OSS solution. Until then - I don’t really care. Same thing with cloud providers. It’s all well and good to have opinions about OSS, but when it comes to companies being able to push code quickly and scalably, then yeah I’m hiring the ops team who knows kubernetes and containerization vs someone who’s going to spend weeks trying to spin up bare iron machines.
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Hi! Question in the title.\n
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I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:\n
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- runs everything as root (not many well built images with proper useranagement it seems)\n
- you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it\n
- lots of mess in the system (mounts, fake networks, rules…)\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Take yourself out of homelab and put yourself into a sysadmin. Now instead of knowing how packages may conflict with others, or if updating this OS will break applications, you just need to know docker. If you know docker, you can run any docker app.\n
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So, yes, volumes and environments are a bit difficult at first. But it’s difficult because it is a standard. Every docker container is going to need a couple mounts, a couple variables, a port or two open, and if you’re going crazy maybe a GPU. It doesn’t matter if you’re running 1 or 50 containers on a system, you aren’t going to get conflicts.\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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Yes, developers know less about infra. I’d argue that can be a *good* thing. I don’t need my devs to understand VLANs, the nuances of DNS, or any of that. I need them to code, and code well. That’s why we have devops/infra people. If my devs to know it? Awesome, but docker and containerization allows them to focus on code and let my ops teams figure out how they want to put it in production.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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So yes, I’m a bit rude about it. I do this professionally and I’m very tired of people who don’t understand containerization explain to me how containerization sucks.
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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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Original dislike:\n
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The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Dislike",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/undo/feedfdca-3392-4f7b-a3ce-2306d8981c5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
"""
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+title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
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\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
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Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
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Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
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\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
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Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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</span>\n
```\n
\n
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\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
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```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
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+title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Dislike",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Undo",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/undo/feedfdca-3392-4f7b-a3ce-2306d8981c5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
"""
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App\Entity\EntryComment {#2078
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+title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Dislike",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Undo",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
"""
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Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
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\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
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</span>\n
```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Dislike",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Undo",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/undo/feedfdca-3392-4f7b-a3ce-2306d8981c5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
"""
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+entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2021
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Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
<span style="color:#323232;">{\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Dislike",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "cc": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "to": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Undo",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> },\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
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```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
Because if you really think about it, do you really need to know if somebody undisliked versus unlike something? Or do you only need to know that their vote is now removed?
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+body: """
Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Announce",\n
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</span>\n
```\n
\n
Undo of Dislike:\n
\n
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\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "@context": [\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ],\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "type": "Like",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
\n
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Original dislike:\n
\n
```\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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</span>\n
```\n
\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": {\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> { ... },\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ...\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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```\n
\n
The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
\n
I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
\n
I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
"""
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This was probably intentional, they don’t really need to say that somebody unlike or undisliked something. You just need to know that their vote is no longer valid. This is probably easier with Mastodon as well because they can and just erase whatever about it was, plus one or minus one, and essentially they don’t have a vote anymore.\n
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