GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/askelectronics@discuss.tchncs.de/t/402/Help-Bypassing-Timer-on-LED-Lights/comment/4630/votes/down

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.47
Profiled on
Token
851faa

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
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  "remember_me"
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  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
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  -registered: false
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 0.04 ms (none) 
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 0.00 ms (none) 
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 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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4 
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5 
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6 
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7 
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8 
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9 
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10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
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12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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    ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/3820e804-d4cd-40d9-8d0f-18788d0ee9af.png)\n
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    Difficult to find datasheets…\n
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    Second picture: To me looks like [Q1 (3400) is an NMOS](https://alltransistors.com/adv/pdfdatasheet_goford/3400.pdf) which connects the LEDs to power. The ‘gate’ is marked yellow. It is the ‘control’ input of the MOSFET. The 4 resistors RD RC RB RA (purple) probably limit the current through the LEDs. If you’re lucky, then an easy hack would be to bypass this transistor: Remove Q1 and connect the red and green marks via a mechanical switch. You’d need to scratch away the white coating until you get copper. Then solder wires there. As a consistency check you could measure the voltage over Q1 (red and green marks). Measure once when the module is plugged in but switched off, and once when the LEDs light up. If you see a voltage while the LEDs are dark, then this would partially confirm my guess. As a test: Before removing Q1 you could also try to bypass Q1 with a resistor (~ one, two kOhm) while the LEDs are off. If you see LEDs now lighting dimm, you know that Q1 is the one switching the LEDs.\n
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    \n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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    \n
    Difficult to find datasheets…\n
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    Second picture: To me looks like [Q1 (3400) is an NMOS](https://alltransistors.com/adv/pdfdatasheet_goford/3400.pdf) which connects the LEDs to power. The ‘gate’ is marked yellow. It is the ‘control’ input of the MOSFET. The 4 resistors RD RC RB RA (purple) probably limit the current through the LEDs. If you’re lucky, then an easy hack would be to bypass this transistor: Remove Q1 and connect the red and green marks via a mechanical switch. You’d need to scratch away the white coating until you get copper. Then solder wires there. As a consistency check you could measure the voltage over Q1 (red and green marks). Measure once when the module is plugged in but switched off, and once when the LEDs light up. If you see a voltage while the LEDs are dark, then this would partially confirm my guess. As a test: Before removing Q1 you could also try to bypass Q1 with a resistor (~ one, two kOhm) while the LEDs are off. If you see LEDs now lighting dimm, you know that Q1 is the one switching the LEDs.\n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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    Second picture: To me looks like [Q1 (3400) is an NMOS](https://alltransistors.com/adv/pdfdatasheet_goford/3400.pdf) which connects the LEDs to power. The ‘gate’ is marked yellow. It is the ‘control’ input of the MOSFET. The 4 resistors RD RC RB RA (purple) probably limit the current through the LEDs. If you’re lucky, then an easy hack would be to bypass this transistor: Remove Q1 and connect the red and green marks via a mechanical switch. You’d need to scratch away the white coating until you get copper. Then solder wires there. As a consistency check you could measure the voltage over Q1 (red and green marks). Measure once when the module is plugged in but switched off, and once when the LEDs light up. If you see a voltage while the LEDs are dark, then this would partially confirm my guess. As a test: Before removing Q1 you could also try to bypass Q1 with a resistor (~ one, two kOhm) while the LEDs are off. If you see LEDs now lighting dimm, you know that Q1 is the one switching the LEDs.\n
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    Other possibility: It might possible that the timeout is computed with an R-C circuit. for 30min you need a rather large resistor because there can’t be very big transistors. R1 (blue) is the largest one. Experiment could be to remove it and see if timeout is still 30min. Or put another 10k resistor in series and see if the timeout gets shorter.\n
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