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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
1.43 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3385 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3425 …}
  +slug: "Why-aren-t-linux-hardware-shops-on-Ubuntu-s-certified-hardware-list"
  +title: "Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?"
  +url: "https://ubuntu.com/certified"
  +body: "Where are Purism, System76, Tuxedo Computers, Starlabs, SlimbookES, and others? Instead there’s Dell, HP, ASUS, and Fujitsu…"
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 65
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699641798 {#3420
    date: 2023-11-10 19:43:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3427 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3429 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3431 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3433 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3435 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3437 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241
      +user: App\Entity\User {#258 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "No one has bothered to update the list"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699564270 {#2092
        date: 2023-11-09 22:11:10.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@onlinepersona@programming.dev"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2130 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2129 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2132 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2350 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
      -id: 103515
      -bodyTs: "'bother':4 'list':8 'one':2 'updat':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5174267"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699508518 {#2094
        date: 2023-11-09 06:41:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 103515
    }
  ]
  -id: 11257
  -titleTs: "'aren':2 'certifi':10 'hardwar':5,11 'linux':4 'list':12 'shop':6 'ubuntu':8"
  -bodyTs: "'asus':16 'comput':6 'dell':14 'fujitsu':18 'hp':15 'instead':11 'other':10 'purism':3 'slimbook':8 'starlab':7 'system76':4 'tuxedo':5"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699570533
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/5602457"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699484133 {#3408
    date: 2023-11-08 23:55:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3385 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3425 …}
  +slug: "Why-aren-t-linux-hardware-shops-on-Ubuntu-s-certified-hardware-list"
  +title: "Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?"
  +url: "https://ubuntu.com/certified"
  +body: "Where are Purism, System76, Tuxedo Computers, Starlabs, SlimbookES, and others? Instead there’s Dell, HP, ASUS, and Fujitsu…"
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 65
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699641798 {#3420
    date: 2023-11-10 19:43:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3427 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3429 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3431 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3433 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3435 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3437 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241
      +user: App\Entity\User {#258 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "No one has bothered to update the list"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699564270 {#2092
        date: 2023-11-09 22:11:10.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@onlinepersona@programming.dev"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2130 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2129 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2132 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2350 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
      -id: 103515
      -bodyTs: "'bother':4 'list':8 'one':2 'updat':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5174267"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699508518 {#2094
        date: 2023-11-09 06:41:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 103515
    }
  ]
  -id: 11257
  -titleTs: "'aren':2 'certifi':10 'hardwar':5,11 'linux':4 'list':12 'shop':6 'ubuntu':8"
  -bodyTs: "'asus':16 'comput':6 'dell':14 'fujitsu':18 'hp':15 'instead':11 'other':10 'purism':3 'slimbook':8 'starlab':7 'system76':4 'tuxedo':5"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699570533
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/5602457"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699484133 {#3408
    date: 2023-11-08 23:55:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3385 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3425 …}
  +slug: "Why-aren-t-linux-hardware-shops-on-Ubuntu-s-certified-hardware-list"
  +title: "Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?"
  +url: "https://ubuntu.com/certified"
  +body: "Where are Purism, System76, Tuxedo Computers, Starlabs, SlimbookES, and others? Instead there’s Dell, HP, ASUS, and Fujitsu…"
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 65
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699641798 {#3420
    date: 2023-11-10 19:43:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3427 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3429 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3431 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3433 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3435 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3437 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241
      +user: App\Entity\User {#258 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "No one has bothered to update the list"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699564270 {#2092
        date: 2023-11-09 22:11:10.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@onlinepersona@programming.dev"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2130 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2129 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2132 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2350 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
      -id: 103515
      -bodyTs: "'bother':4 'list':8 'one':2 'updat':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5174267"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699508518 {#2094
        date: 2023-11-09 06:41:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 103515
    }
  ]
  -id: 11257
  -titleTs: "'aren':2 'certifi':10 'hardwar':5,11 'linux':4 'list':12 'shop':6 'ubuntu':8"
  -bodyTs: "'asus':16 'comput':6 'dell':14 'fujitsu':18 'hp':15 'instead':11 'other':10 'purism':3 'slimbook':8 'starlab':7 'system76':4 'tuxedo':5"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699570533
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/5602457"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699484133 {#3408
    date: 2023-11-08 23:55:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241
  +user: App\Entity\User {#258 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3385 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3425 …}
    +slug: "Why-aren-t-linux-hardware-shops-on-Ubuntu-s-certified-hardware-list"
    +title: "Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?"
    +url: "https://ubuntu.com/certified"
    +body: "Where are Purism, System76, Tuxedo Computers, Starlabs, SlimbookES, and others? Instead there’s Dell, HP, ASUS, and Fujitsu…"
    +type: "link"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 20
    +favouriteCount: 65
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1699641798 {#3420
      date: 2023-11-10 19:43:18.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3427 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3429 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3431 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3433 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3435 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3437 …}
    +children: [
      App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241}
    ]
    -id: 11257
    -titleTs: "'aren':2 'certifi':10 'hardwar':5,11 'linux':4 'list':12 'shop':6 'ubuntu':8"
    -bodyTs: "'asus':16 'comput':6 'dell':14 'fujitsu':18 'hp':15 'instead':11 'other':10 'purism':3 'slimbook':8 'starlab':7 'system76':4 'tuxedo':5"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1699570533
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/5602457"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699484133 {#3408
      date: 2023-11-08 23:55:33.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "No one has bothered to update the list"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 9
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699564270 {#2092
    date: 2023-11-09 22:11:10.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@onlinepersona@programming.dev"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2130 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2129 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2132 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2350 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
  -id: 103515
  -bodyTs: "'bother':4 'list':8 'one':2 'updat':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5174267"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699508518 {#2094
    date: 2023-11-09 06:41:58.0 +01:00
  }
  +"title": 103515
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2241
  +user: App\Entity\User {#258 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2140
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3385 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1564 …}
    +image: null
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        Virtual box(software for running vm’s): [www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads](https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads)\n
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        We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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        I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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        I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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        That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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        By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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        That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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        Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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        That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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        If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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        That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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        Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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        And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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        Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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      +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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        Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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        Rather beta test for Debian
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        I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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        Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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        Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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        Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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        Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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        We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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        Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
        \n
        Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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        We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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        For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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        If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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        I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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        “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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        The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        (Emphasis mine)\n
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        Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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        I rest my case.
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      +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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      +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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        I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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        That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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        By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
        \n
        That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
        \n
        Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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        That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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        If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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        That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
        \n
        Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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        And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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        Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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      +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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        Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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        Rather beta test for Debian
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        I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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        Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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        Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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      +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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        Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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        Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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        Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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        We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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        Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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        Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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        We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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        For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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        If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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        I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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        “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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        The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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      +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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        I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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        That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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        By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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        That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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        Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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        Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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        I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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        Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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        Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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        Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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        Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
          """
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    We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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    Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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    Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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    We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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    For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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    If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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    Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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    Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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    We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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    For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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    If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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    Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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    Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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    We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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    For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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    If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        +body: """
          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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    “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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    The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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    Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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    As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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    “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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    The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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    Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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    As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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    I rest my case.
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
          \n
          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
          """
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    I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    +slug: "Fedora-Linux-39-Released-As-A-Wonderful-Upgrade-For-Leading"
    +title: "Fedora Linux 39 Released As A Wonderful Upgrade For Leading Workstations & Servers"
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
          \n
          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
          \n
          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
          \n
          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
          \n
          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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        +body: """
          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: """
          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        +body: """
          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
          \n
          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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        +body: """
          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
          \n
          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
          \n
          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
          \n
          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
          """
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
          \n
          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
          \n
          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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    That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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    By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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    That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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    By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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    That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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    Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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    That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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    If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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    That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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    Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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    And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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    Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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    That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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    Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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    That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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    If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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    That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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    Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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    And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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    Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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    +title: "Fedora Linux 39 Released As A Wonderful Upgrade For Leading Workstations & Servers"
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
          \n
          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
          \n
          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
          \n
          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
          \n
          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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        +body: """
          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
          \n
          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
          \n
          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
          """
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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    That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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    Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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    If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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    That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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    Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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    And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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    Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          date: 2023-11-07 15:48:50.0 +01:00
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        +body: """
          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
          \n
          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
          \n
          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
          \n
          (Emphasis mine)\n
          \n
          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
          \n
          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
          \n
          I rest my case.
          """
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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        +body: """
          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
          \n
          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
          \n
          By the Community, for the Community 💪
          """
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        +body: """
          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
          \n
          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
          \n
          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
          """
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
          \n
          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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    Rather beta test for Debian
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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    Rather beta test for Debian
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
          \n
          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
          \n
          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
          """
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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    Rather beta test for Debian
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    +title: "Fedora Linux 39 Released As A Wonderful Upgrade For Leading Workstations & Servers"
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
          \n
          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
          \n
          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
          \n
          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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    Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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    Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
          \n
          (Emphasis mine)\n
          \n
          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
          \n
          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
          \n
          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
          \n
          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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    Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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    Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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    Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
    \n
    Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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    Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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    +title: "Fedora Linux 39 Released As A Wonderful Upgrade For Leading Workstations & Servers"
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          (Emphasis mine)\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
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          I rest my case.
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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  +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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          Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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          Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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        +body: """
          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
          \n
          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
          \n
          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
          \n
          (Emphasis mine)\n
          \n
          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
          \n
          As you can see, anyone who obtains the code CAN redistribute it unchanged, bug for bug…\n
          \n
          I rest my case.
          """
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        +body: "Can you read? Read the full article."
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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        +body: """
          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
          \n
          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
          \n
          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
          \n
          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
          \n
          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
          \n
          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
          \n
          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
          \n
          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
          \n
          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
          \n
          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
          """
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
          \n
          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
          \n
          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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    Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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    Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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    Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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    Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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    Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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    Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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          We really need to all stop promoting Fedora especially after what Red Hat did to the Community with CentOS and closing the code off from downstream.\n
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          Fedora is Red Hat in disguise.\n
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          Same goes for Canonical. They’ve decided to screw the Community and try force things on users, Communist style, so they can f right off too!\n
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          We should all only use 100% Community based distros and projects because they need our support and break their backs working for the Community.\n
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          For example Linux Mint, Debian, Arch, Slackware and others.\n
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          If you use Mint like I do, switch to Debian Edition and let the developers know that’s where you prefer that focus first and then do the Ubuntu edition afterwards 👍
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          I would like to quote for you from Gnu.org, Richard Stallman’s organization that invented the idea of free software. Here he explains what that means. I’ll link to the full webpage below.\n
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          “Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.** If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.** If this seems surprising to you, please read on.\n
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          The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software,” we’re talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, study and change the program, and **redistribute the program with or without changes**.”\n
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          Source: [www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)\n
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        +body: "Because you’d be helping Community distros get better, as well as financially, instead of supporting corporations that use you as beta testers to improve their paid corporate product and then screw you over when you want access to the server code."
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          I’m not saying it will be banned, you can still use it but I’m calling the community to return to community distros like Debian who are 100% libre and user freedom respecting… Plus there many dedicated developers and other volunteers who support this out of love for FOSS and the principles of free computing for all.\n
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          That’s not childish. It’s a call to get back to our roots. Use Community distros, volunteer your time if you have the skills they need, make a money donation to thank them and help the project keep going. That’s how FOSS is supposed to work.\n
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          By the Community, for the Community 💪
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          You need to understand that Red Hat/Fedora regards the Linux Community as “free loaders”. That’s how they designed described anyone wanting access to Red Hat Server source code.\n
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          That’s what they think of you and me and all the great developers who make a lot of the software we use, often in their free time and at no cost.\n
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          Most of the distros and software you use on Linux is made and maintained by people who are *not paid* but do it for the love of Libre open source freedom loving computing for all.\n
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          That is the FOSS way. Red Hat/Fedora do not share this view. They see us all as free loaders.\n
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          If all the great Devs who contribute so much to GNU/Linux had that attitude, you’d literally have no free distro or apps.\n
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          That means no poor third world person would ever have access to an operating system or pc. Only us well off people in the developed world. That’s anti FOSS.\n
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          Don’t support ass hats like Red Hat/Fedora who stand against that.\n
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          And now we see Canonical also being ass hats but only by including telemetry in Ubuntu, but forcing snaps on end users, blocking flatpak out of the box (you can still install it yourself but newbies won’t know this) and they are aiming to eventually make Ubuntu snap only. Not to mention they worked with Microsoft to make “Linux subsystem for Windows” which is a real insult to Linux and FOSS.\n
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          Use Debian and other Community based distros which have zero corporate funding or involvement and are 100% by the people for the people
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        +body: "No. It’s what they deserve for screwing over the community. Let them pay for beta testers instead of getting free beta testing from the community"
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          Beta testing is great. Just not when it’s for Red Hat(Fedora), Canonical, Microsoft (WSL) or any other Greedy Corp. when they are requesting this in the spirit of open source.\n
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          Rather beta test for Debian
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          I know they pay Fedora work because most of the employees ARE full time Red Hat employees.\n
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          Hence my point that the user is the free beta tester for Enterprise software.\n
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          Stop being a free beta tester for a Mega Corp that hates the Linux Community. Rather use Debian, Arch or another Community developed OS.
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          Well Red Hat put up a paywall so that only those who they choose, can get the code. That’s the issue. Then they justified it by calling users who want the code “free loaders”. That’s typical proprietary speak, it has no place in open source.\n
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          Ubuntu is downstream of Debian. But canonical have taken it, forced snaps on users, forced opt out telemetry in users and removed default flatpak support. All very user hostile moves.\n
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          Hence I’m calling the community to show these corps we don’t need them and community distros have everything we need while protecting user freedom.
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        +body: "That’s why we should stop using them. If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project and the Community can keep pace with Debian or openSuse. openSuse can easily step into Fedora and Red Hat’s shoes."
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    Agree 100%. And both are 100% Community. openSuse is privately owned and supported by a massive Community.\n
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    Debian is perfect for reliability (although opensuse is very reliable) who don’t need the latest and don’t like installing updates all the time. 100% Community based.\n
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    Two fantastic, shining examples of the power of Community supported software 💪
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