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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.73 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1782
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1738 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#307
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#288 …}
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    +title: "askelectronics"
    +description: """
      **For questions about component-level electronic circuits, tools and equipment.**\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
      1: Be nice.\n
      \n
      2: Be on-topic (eg: *Electronic*, not *electrical*).\n
      \n
      3: No commercial stuff, buying, selling or valuations.\n
      \n
      4: Be safe.\n
      \n
      ---
      """
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    +postCount: 1
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    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
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  +parent: null
  +root: null
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  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
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  +lastActive: DateTime @1689089405 {#1533
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1782
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    +description: """
      **For questions about component-level electronic circuits, tools and equipment.**\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
      1: Be nice.\n
      \n
      2: Be on-topic (eg: *Electronic*, not *electrical*).\n
      \n
      3: No commercial stuff, buying, selling or valuations.\n
      \n
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      \n
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1782
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    +description: """
      **For questions about component-level electronic circuits, tools and equipment.**\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
      1: Be nice.\n
      \n
      2: Be on-topic (eg: *Electronic*, not *electrical*).\n
      \n
      3: No commercial stuff, buying, selling or valuations.\n
      \n
      4: Be safe.\n
      \n
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
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      **For questions about component-level electronic circuits, tools and equipment.**\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
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      \n
      2: Be on-topic (eg: *Electronic*, not *electrical*).\n
      \n
      3: No commercial stuff, buying, selling or valuations.\n
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  +body: "Buy the JST plug with the right pin pitch (in your case 2mm), and grind it so it fits. You can find male to female cables, so you also don’t have to modify the original connector on your noctua fan."
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        it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
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    So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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        it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
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    So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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    So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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          it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
           thanks a lot!  \n
           I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
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      So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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      Is that correct?
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          it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
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           I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
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      So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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            it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
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        So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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    You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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    - 2. if you don’t want more than 5V at the output of the OpAmp, wouldn’t it be easier to just supply the OpAmp with 5V instead of adding a shottky diode which has a forward voltage of around 0.6V? As I understand the screenshot the voltage is 5.4V at that exact point and it could theoretically raise to 5.6V.\n
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            it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
             thanks a lot!  \n
             I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
             I attached the schematics, but not sure that images in comments federate from kbin to lemmy, so if you don't see it, try opening an original link to this comment.
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        So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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        Is that correct?
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    You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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                +body: "Supply the OpAmp with +/-12V or +5/0V and use a non inverting Summing OpAmp Circuit to get your 0-5V signal. V1 is 5V, V2 your input."
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              +body: "thanks! gonna give it a try tomorrow. I'm pretty new to this, and never used opAmps in non-inverting configuration, so I missed this option"
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            it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
             thanks a lot!  \n
             I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
             I attached the schematics, but not sure that images in comments federate from kbin to lemmy, so if you don't see it, try opening an original link to this comment.
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        So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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        Is that correct?
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    You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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                +body: "thanks! gonna give it a try tomorrow. I'm pretty new to this, and never used opAmps in non-inverting configuration, so I missed this option"
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              it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
               thanks a lot!  \n
               I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
               I attached the schematics, but not sure that images in comments federate from kbin to lemmy, so if you don't see it, try opening an original link to this comment.
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          +body: "ah, a little bit of thinking helped me realize that I don't need 1k in inverting loop and then I'll get 5v instead of 5.05v :) and 100k can also be replaced by 1k"
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          So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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          Is that correct?
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      +body: "No, with 0 Ohm I get a perfect 0+5v sine, just as I need. It's the other way round, it'll amplify the signal and clip off the top at about + supply voltage when you increase the resistance in the feedback loop, but it's not exactly square wave, as the bottom part of sine will remain intact. I use clipping schottky diodes to protect the arduino from voltage outside 0+5v range, this way if you increase input signal to say 20v peak to peak, you'll get more square-ish wave in 0+5v (I've attached the schematics)"
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      You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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      - 2. if you don’t want more than 5V at the output of the OpAmp, wouldn’t it be easier to just supply the OpAmp with 5V instead of adding a shottky diode which has a forward voltage of around 0.6V? As I understand the screenshot the voltage is 5.4V at that exact point and it could theoretically raise to 5.6V.\n
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    1. it does nothing 😅 I just forgot to remove it from the sim\n
    2. you mean like power it with 0+5v? I think it won't work with negative input voltages then, right? and I'm using tl074 and I'm not sure that 0+5v is enough juice for it, and I use remaining 3 opamps for other stuff, so it's not really an option for me. the sim didn't have shottky diodes, so this measurements are not 100% accurate, but I used this approach to protect arduino inputs in another project, and it worked well. And yeah, I cranked up the input signal to +/-10v just to check the clipping, it'll normally stay within +/-5v\n
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    I already ordered PCB for the prototype. I hope it'll work fine. Thanks a lot for your help :)
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                  +body: "Supply the OpAmp with +/-12V or +5/0V and use a non inverting Summing OpAmp Circuit to get your 0-5V signal. V1 is 5V, V2 your input."
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                +body: "thanks! gonna give it a try tomorrow. I'm pretty new to this, and never used opAmps in non-inverting configuration, so I missed this option"
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              it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
               thanks a lot!  \n
               I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
               I attached the schematics, but not sure that images in comments federate from kbin to lemmy, so if you don't see it, try opening an original link to this comment.
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          +body: "ah, a little bit of thinking helped me realize that I don't need 1k in inverting loop and then I'll get 5v instead of 5.05v :) and 100k can also be replaced by 1k"
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          So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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          Is that correct?
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      +body: "No, with 0 Ohm I get a perfect 0+5v sine, just as I need. It's the other way round, it'll amplify the signal and clip off the top at about + supply voltage when you increase the resistance in the feedback loop, but it's not exactly square wave, as the bottom part of sine will remain intact. I use clipping schottky diodes to protect the arduino from voltage outside 0+5v range, this way if you increase input signal to say 20v peak to peak, you'll get more square-ish wave in 0+5v (I've attached the schematics)"
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      You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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      - 2. if you don’t want more than 5V at the output of the OpAmp, wouldn’t it be easier to just supply the OpAmp with 5V instead of adding a shottky diode which has a forward voltage of around 0.6V? As I understand the screenshot the voltage is 5.4V at that exact point and it could theoretically raise to 5.6V.\n
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      At the moment you’re also mixing up your + input. 10V AC + 5V DC result in 7.5V input in your sim.
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    1. it does nothing 😅 I just forgot to remove it from the sim\n
    2. you mean like power it with 0+5v? I think it won't work with negative input voltages then, right? and I'm using tl074 and I'm not sure that 0+5v is enough juice for it, and I use remaining 3 opamps for other stuff, so it's not really an option for me. the sim didn't have shottky diodes, so this measurements are not 100% accurate, but I used this approach to protect arduino inputs in another project, and it worked well. And yeah, I cranked up the input signal to +/-10v just to check the clipping, it'll normally stay within +/-5v\n
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    I already ordered PCB for the prototype. I hope it'll work fine. Thanks a lot for your help :)
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                  +body: "Supply the OpAmp with +/-12V or +5/0V and use a non inverting Summing OpAmp Circuit to get your 0-5V signal. V1 is 5V, V2 your input."
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                +body: "thanks! gonna give it a try tomorrow. I'm pretty new to this, and never used opAmps in non-inverting configuration, so I missed this option"
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              it worked! (at least in the sim)  \n
               thanks a lot!  \n
               I'm not sure I got all the math right, since I get 0 - 5.05V on the output, but it's not a deal breaker for me.  \n
               I attached the schematics, but not sure that images in comments federate from kbin to lemmy, so if you don't see it, try opening an original link to this comment.
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          +body: "ah, a little bit of thinking helped me realize that I don't need 1k in inverting loop and then I'll get 5v instead of 5.05v :) and 100k can also be replaced by 1k"
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          So what should happen if you replace the 1k in the inverting loop by 0 Ohm is, you should get a 5V square wave.\n
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          Is that correct?
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      +body: "No, with 0 Ohm I get a perfect 0+5v sine, just as I need. It's the other way round, it'll amplify the signal and clip off the top at about + supply voltage when you increase the resistance in the feedback loop, but it's not exactly square wave, as the bottom part of sine will remain intact. I use clipping schottky diodes to protect the arduino from voltage outside 0+5v range, this way if you increase input signal to say 20v peak to peak, you'll get more square-ish wave in 0+5v (I've attached the schematics)"
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      You’re right of course. Two more questions if you don’t mind:\n
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      - 2. if you don’t want more than 5V at the output of the OpAmp, wouldn’t it be easier to just supply the OpAmp with 5V instead of adding a shottky diode which has a forward voltage of around 0.6V? As I understand the screenshot the voltage is 5.4V at that exact point and it could theoretically raise to 5.6V.\n
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      At the moment you’re also mixing up your + input. 10V AC + 5V DC result in 7.5V input in your sim.
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    1. it does nothing 😅 I just forgot to remove it from the sim\n
    2. you mean like power it with 0+5v? I think it won't work with negative input voltages then, right? and I'm using tl074 and I'm not sure that 0+5v is enough juice for it, and I use remaining 3 opamps for other stuff, so it's not really an option for me. the sim didn't have shottky diodes, so this measurements are not 100% accurate, but I used this approach to protect arduino inputs in another project, and it worked well. And yeah, I cranked up the input signal to +/-10v just to check the clipping, it'll normally stay within +/-5v\n
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    I already ordered PCB for the prototype. I hope it'll work fine. Thanks a lot for your help :)
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            It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      Thank you for the detailed insight! I miss some basics in electronics but am eager to learn how to test and fix circuits.\n
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      Years ago I tried to repair an old keyboard/synthesizer by cleaning it and replacing leaked/bloated capacitors. Unfortunately the onboard sound memory could not be loaded anymore or was wiped entirely as far as I understood. But due to lack of knowledge (me and community that time) it was too complex to got the keyboard up and running again. It’s sometimes sad to loose good hardware…\n
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      Back to the resistor/thread: I can’t imagine a resistor to be the source of the problem. Isn’t it more possible that a capacitor wears out or a transistor cooling fails?
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    Those things are indeed more common!\n
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    However, if the circuit was in an abnormal state (e.g. the contact with the case), then a resistor could very well blow. It would not be surprising if it took some other components down with it, and that this damage is not obvious yet. “The transistor blows to protect the fuse” is a common fail-state, facetiously stated.\n
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    Another possibility is just… bad design. You could call me adequate at circuit design (I mostly design prototypes, not finished systems that have to last thousands of hours), but regularly see commercial products designed poorly with some stupid point of failure. For example, using a 1 watt resistor that is dissipating close to 1 watt, instead of designing a more efficient system that doesn’t require dissipating heat at all.\n
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    2. Output impedance matters: you can’t power a huge motor off a microcontroller pin.\n
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    4. Lead acid batteries aren’t a magic solution to power everything. Especially automotive ones. Understand and use lithium ion.\n
    5. Connecting LEDs in parallel then adding a single resistor will lead to failure pretty quickly.\n
    6. Generally, don’t pass significant power through a switch. Use the switch to control the state of a power MOSFET or similar.\n
    7. Button debouncing.\n
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    Most of the rest is refusing to do other people’s homework, help people build weapons, or do unwise things with mains power / high voltage / centrifuges. Occasionally people ask me really interesting questions though, so I don’t mind that the interactions are a bit scripted the rest of the time! I’ve noticed on Lemmy I’ve gotten much more interesting questions so far!
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            It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            If we treat the black band as discolored-brown, and read it the other way, we get (yellow - white - brown - brown) which is 490Ω and closer to your measured value. I wouldn't rule out (yellow - white red - brown) either at 4.9 kΩ, although that doesn't match closely to your measurement.\n
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            A good question is 'why did the resistor burn?'. If I didn't know why, then I would assume that replacing it will just result in it burning again, although maybe not immediately.
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      Thank you for the detailed insight! I miss some basics in electronics but am eager to learn how to test and fix circuits.\n
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      Years ago I tried to repair an old keyboard/synthesizer by cleaning it and replacing leaked/bloated capacitors. Unfortunately the onboard sound memory could not be loaded anymore or was wiped entirely as far as I understood. But due to lack of knowledge (me and community that time) it was too complex to got the keyboard up and running again. It’s sometimes sad to loose good hardware…\n
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      Back to the resistor/thread: I can’t imagine a resistor to be the source of the problem. Isn’t it more possible that a capacitor wears out or a transistor cooling fails?
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    Those things are indeed more common!\n
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    However, if the circuit was in an abnormal state (e.g. the contact with the case), then a resistor could very well blow. It would not be surprising if it took some other components down with it, and that this damage is not obvious yet. “The transistor blows to protect the fuse” is a common fail-state, facetiously stated.\n
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    Another possibility is just… bad design. You could call me adequate at circuit design (I mostly design prototypes, not finished systems that have to last thousands of hours), but regularly see commercial products designed poorly with some stupid point of failure. For example, using a 1 watt resistor that is dissipating close to 1 watt, instead of designing a more efficient system that doesn’t require dissipating heat at all.\n
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    7. Button debouncing.\n
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    Most of the rest is refusing to do other people’s homework, help people build weapons, or do unwise things with mains power / high voltage / centrifuges. Occasionally people ask me really interesting questions though, so I don’t mind that the interactions are a bit scripted the rest of the time! I’ve noticed on Lemmy I’ve gotten much more interesting questions so far!
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            It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            If we treat the black band as discolored-brown, and read it the other way, we get (yellow - white - brown - brown) which is 490Ω and closer to your measured value. I wouldn't rule out (yellow - white red - brown) either at 4.9 kΩ, although that doesn't match closely to your measurement.\n
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      Thank you for the detailed insight! I miss some basics in electronics but am eager to learn how to test and fix circuits.\n
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      Years ago I tried to repair an old keyboard/synthesizer by cleaning it and replacing leaked/bloated capacitors. Unfortunately the onboard sound memory could not be loaded anymore or was wiped entirely as far as I understood. But due to lack of knowledge (me and community that time) it was too complex to got the keyboard up and running again. It’s sometimes sad to loose good hardware…\n
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      Back to the resistor/thread: I can’t imagine a resistor to be the source of the problem. Isn’t it more possible that a capacitor wears out or a transistor cooling fails?
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    Those things are indeed more common!\n
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    However, if the circuit was in an abnormal state (e.g. the contact with the case), then a resistor could very well blow. It would not be surprising if it took some other components down with it, and that this damage is not obvious yet. “The transistor blows to protect the fuse” is a common fail-state, facetiously stated.\n
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    Another possibility is just… bad design. You could call me adequate at circuit design (I mostly design prototypes, not finished systems that have to last thousands of hours), but regularly see commercial products designed poorly with some stupid point of failure. For example, using a 1 watt resistor that is dissipating close to 1 watt, instead of designing a more efficient system that doesn’t require dissipating heat at all.\n
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    I spend a lot of time answering questions for people just getting started. Probably 75% of them boil down to a few things. Here is that list in case amusing / useful:\n
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    1. Relays are not a great solution in general, and there are many better alternatives (MOSFET, SSR, etc).\n
    2. Output impedance matters: you can’t power a huge motor off a microcontroller pin.\n
    3. Back-EMF from inductive loads can burn out your control system unless you add a protection diode.\n
    4. Lead acid batteries aren’t a magic solution to power everything. Especially automotive ones. Understand and use lithium ion.\n
    5. Connecting LEDs in parallel then adding a single resistor will lead to failure pretty quickly.\n
    6. Generally, don’t pass significant power through a switch. Use the switch to control the state of a power MOSFET or similar.\n
    7. Button debouncing.\n
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    Most of the rest is refusing to do other people’s homework, help people build weapons, or do unwise things with mains power / high voltage / centrifuges. Occasionally people ask me really interesting questions though, so I don’t mind that the interactions are a bit scripted the rest of the time! I’ve noticed on Lemmy I’ve gotten much more interesting questions so far!
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      Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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      What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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      My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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            It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            If we treat the black band as discolored-brown, and read it the other way, we get (yellow - white - brown - brown) which is 490Ω and closer to your measured value. I wouldn't rule out (yellow - white red - brown) either at 4.9 kΩ, although that doesn't match closely to your measurement.\n
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            A good question is 'why did the resistor burn?'. If I didn't know why, then I would assume that replacing it will just result in it burning again, although maybe not immediately.
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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            It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            If we treat the black band as discolored-brown, and read it the other way, we get (yellow - white - brown - brown) which is 490Ω and closer to your measured value. I wouldn't rule out (yellow - white red - brown) either at 4.9 kΩ, although that doesn't match closely to your measurement.\n
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            A good question is 'why did the resistor burn?'. If I didn't know why, then I would assume that replacing it will just result in it burning again, although maybe not immediately.
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        Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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        My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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      The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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      I’m going to run it a few times then open it up again to see if there is any new damage to the board before returning it.
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          Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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        The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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              It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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          Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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          What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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          My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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        The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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              It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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              If we treat the black band as discolored-brown, and read it the other way, we get (yellow - white - brown - brown) which is 490Ω and closer to your measured value. I wouldn't rule out (yellow - white red - brown) either at 4.9 kΩ, although that doesn't match closely to your measurement.\n
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              A good question is 'why did the resistor burn?'. If I didn't know why, then I would assume that replacing it will just result in it burning again, although maybe not immediately.
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          Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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                It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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            What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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            My main concern is by 'fixing' it with a resistor with higher thermal dissipation, I've created a fire hazard because that dissipated heat now has to 'go somewhere', which may be the plastic case. A thermal camera is handy to see if some part of the board gets unacceptably hot during normal operation.
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          The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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                It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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            What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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          The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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                It looks like 1GΩ (black-brown-white gold). But that doesn't sound likely unless you have a very high voltage bread maker.\n
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            Well, arguably keeping the resistor the same value would result in a somewhat known state, and changing it would put it in an unknown state. The unknown state could be better or worse. I can't see enough to know what the circuit does to say.\n
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            What you could do instead, is set the resistor to the same value, but rated for higher thermal dissipation. Then measure how hot it gets to identify if the real problem is somewhere else. Another part might burn/explode instead though, so I'd consider carefully how to proceed, and probably wear goggles + have a fire extinguisher in the room.\n
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          The case is basically fully metal, just a bit of plastic inside for mounting the PCB to and a few other bits of plastic outside. Plus there is a temperature fuse in the case also.\n
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    That sounds like a possible fail state. Also shitty design. It should use a resettable thermal fuse or something to detect faults without parts burning.\n
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