GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@EthernalExplorer@reddthat.com

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.108
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Token
9a284c

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
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access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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2 DENIED moderate 
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  +title: "Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
    \n
    **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
    \n
    I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
    \n
    I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
    \n
    One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
    \n
    On the other hand, I do not feel my contribution is in the right place anymore, if let’s say I post on lemmy.world. I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments and I want people to join Lemmy. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they could subsribe to our communities?\n
    \n
    I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
    \n
    Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
    \n
    Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
    """
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      +image: null
      +parent: null
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        You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
        \n
        If the question whether somebody federates with Threads or not is THAT important to you, then you already have your answer.\n
        \n
        Overall, I really hope we do not come to a point where thoughts like “my instance does not federate with $evilinstance, therefore it’s a good instance. But $otherinstance does, therefore $otherinstance sucks and I’ll avoid everything on $otherinstance” become the norm. Because then we get a clusterfuck.
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      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1611 …}
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610}
      +body: """
        > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
        \n
        > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
        \n
        I see.\n
        \n
        > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
        \n
        I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
        \n
        Of course, you do have every right to create another community somewhere else, my gut tells me it will not be successful though. I just don’t think many will be like “Oh there is a new community for this hosted on an instance not federating with Threads, let’s move!”. Users, overall, will probably gravitate towards the community with the most activity and it’s not likely that it will be your new one. However, you may have a chance if it there is hardly any activity now.
        """
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      +body: "Thanks. Yes and no. I do from time to time, but I don’t want this account to be associated with those. I do hope though that on Lemmy more communities for non-tech related content will take off eventually, for example Philosophy and Meditation etc. Civil discussions, no flame wars, no spite, no hive-minded downvote(or upvote) brigades for all your interests would be a dream, how realistic this vision is with growing users is the question. Nevertheless, we are not at the point to worry about this yet."
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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3 DENIED edit 
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  +slug: "Dilemma-with-contributing-to-niche-Communities-on-Instances-federating-with"
  +title: "Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
    \n
    **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
    \n
    I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
    \n
    I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
    \n
    One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
    \n
    On the other hand, I do not feel my contribution is in the right place anymore, if let’s say I post on lemmy.world. I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments and I want people to join Lemmy. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they could subsribe to our communities?\n
    \n
    I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
    \n
    Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
    \n
    Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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        You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
        \n
        If the question whether somebody federates with Threads or not is THAT important to you, then you already have your answer.\n
        \n
        Overall, I really hope we do not come to a point where thoughts like “my instance does not federate with $evilinstance, therefore it’s a good instance. But $otherinstance does, therefore $otherinstance sucks and I’ll avoid everything on $otherinstance” become the norm. Because then we get a clusterfuck.
        """
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        > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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        I see.\n
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    After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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    **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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    I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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    I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
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    One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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    On the other hand, I do not feel my contribution is in the right place anymore, if let’s say I post on lemmy.world. I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments and I want people to join Lemmy. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they could subsribe to our communities?\n
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    I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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    Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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    Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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        You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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        > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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        > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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        I see.\n
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        > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
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        I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
      \n
      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
      \n
      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      On the other hand, I do not feel my contribution is in the right place anymore, if let’s say I post on lemmy.world. I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments and I want people to join Lemmy. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they could subsribe to our communities?\n
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      I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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      Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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          I see.\n
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          > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
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          I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
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    You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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    If the question whether somebody federates with Threads or not is THAT important to you, then you already have your answer.\n
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    Overall, I really hope we do not come to a point where thoughts like “my instance does not federate with $evilinstance, therefore it’s a good instance. But $otherinstance does, therefore $otherinstance sucks and I’ll avoid everything on $otherinstance” become the norm. Because then we get a clusterfuck.
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
      \n
      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
      \n
      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
      \n
      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      On the other hand, I do not feel my contribution is in the right place anymore, if let’s say I post on lemmy.world. I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments and I want people to join Lemmy. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they could subsribe to our communities?\n
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      I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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      Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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          I see.\n
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          > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
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          I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
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    You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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          I see.\n
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          > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
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    You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
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      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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      Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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          You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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    > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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    > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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    I see.\n
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    > Would you still post to lemmy.world or you would create another community on lemmy.ml where Threads is blocked, if you were in my case?\n
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    I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
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    Of course, you do have every right to create another community somewhere else, my gut tells me it will not be successful though. I just don’t think many will be like “Oh there is a new community for this hosted on an instance not federating with Threads, let’s move!”. Users, overall, will probably gravitate towards the community with the most activity and it’s not likely that it will be your new one. However, you may have a chance if it there is hardly any activity now.
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
      \n
      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
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      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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    > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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    I see.\n
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    I understand your problem. It’s an interesting thought-experiment. Though I am not a fan of Meta/Threads either, it probably is not that dear to my heart as it is to you. You’ll have to decide this based upon how important the situation with Threads really is to you. If it’s a matter of principle, you probably would not continue posting to lemmy.world. That said, as it’s niche communities you are talking about, creating new ones on other instances will create a split, which is most likely not helpful for user engagement. Who knows, if Threads will bring many users, it might actually help bring life to niche communities.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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    > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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    > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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    I see.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
      \n
      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      Edit: formatting and clarified my points and updated my question to reflect that
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          You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          I see.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
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      One one hand, having everyone in the same place would be much more beneficial since the community is not split and spread across the fediverse. We would also have better discussions with people from different background and diverse point of views.\n
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      I wish my communities were instance-independent so this barrier can be removed. I can create a similar community here but it is the last thing I would want to do.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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          You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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          I see.\n
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      After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to.\n
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      **Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances federating with Threads, or build similar communities on other Instances blocking Threads?**\n
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      I have a feeing this issue is not a one off, but a common one going forward, so it’s better to settle it once and for all. Below is my thought so far. What would you do in my case?\n
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      I love to post or comment on my favourite niche communities to share my experience with others and grow them. Those communities are small in size and they usually exist in certain instances only.\n
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      Having written all these down, I realised this was exactly the same situation how I came to Lemmy from reddit, i.e. communities split across Internet due to issues we have with the platform/instance we are on. I guess discussion on platform/instance-independent communities can be a topic of its own\n
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          You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.\n
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          > Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can just subscribe to instances federating with them. That is why I don’t want to post on instances federating with Threads anymore\n
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          > I also don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments\n
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          I see.\n
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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