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Security

Token

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.82 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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}
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1598 …}
  +slug: "What-has-been-your-experience-with-Flatpak"
  +title: "What has been your experience with Flatpak?"
  +url: null
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    I’ve been involved with Linux for a long time, and Flatpak almost seems too good to be true:  \n
    Just install any app on any distro, isolated from the base system and with granular rights management. I’ve just set up my first flatpak-centric system and didn’t notice any issues with it at all, apart from a 1-second waiting time before an app is launched.\n
    \n
    What’s your long-term experience?\n
    \n
    Notice any annoying bugs or instabilities? Do apps crash a lot? Disappear from Flathub or are unmaintained? Do you often have issues with apps that don’t integrate well with your native system? Are important apps missing?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 143
  +favouriteCount: 199
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699403219 {#1715
    date: 2023-11-08 01:26:59.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1630 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1628 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1618 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2363 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1926 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1695
      +user: App\Entity\User {#264 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        My experience with flatpak has been stellar from a technical perspective has been stellar.\n
        \n
        Where it currently falls short for me personally is trust. With my distro I am putting my trust into the maintainers, but with flatpak its… random people for most apps?\n
        \n
        It is tough when it is not a primary channel of distribution for most devs, but I am optimistic that will change in the future.
        """
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      +isAdult: false
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      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699149392 {#1433
        date: 2023-11-05 02:56:32.0 +01:00
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      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@KISSmyOS@lemmy.world"
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1578 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1571 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1574 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1667 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/5494743"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699080472 {#1430
        date: 2023-11-04 07:47:52.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 88858
    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1695}
      +body: """
        Sandboxed just means an app can’t reach out to the rest of the OS. What about the information I am entrusting to it to process?\n
        \n
        If my browser is a flatpak, it likely has access to most of the information I care about. If I am using a chat app that is a flatpak, it can read my most personal communications. Why do I care if it can read what is in /etc?\n
        \n
        Relevant: [xkcd.com/1200/](https://xkcd.com/1200/)\n
        \n
        > Running an app from a developer already implies trust on your part.\n
        \n
        You totally missed my point. My point was that a lot of flatpaks are packaged by unknown third parties. I would love it if the devs would package things as flatpaks directly, but that is mostly not the case.\n
        \n
        Looking at flathub right now. 1567 applications are from unverified publishers vs 789 verified. Unverified apps include chrome, edge, chromium, brave, BITWARDEN and signal. All of those applications process highly sensitive information.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699149387 {#1673
        date: 2023-11-05 02:56:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
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        "@upperleft@lemmy.ml"
        "@Evotech@lemmy.world"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1680 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1683 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1702 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1596 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1613 …}
      -id: 91455
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/5521014"
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      }
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        date: 2023-11-05 02:56:27.0 +01:00
      }
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  -titleTs: "'experi':5 'flatpak':7"
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699101503
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/7732631"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699015124 {#1697
    date: 2023-11-03 13:38:44.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699015103 {#1740
    date: 2023-11-03 13:38:23.0 +01:00
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   …2
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1598 …}
  +slug: "What-has-been-your-experience-with-Flatpak"
  +title: "What has been your experience with Flatpak?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    I’ve been involved with Linux for a long time, and Flatpak almost seems too good to be true:  \n
    Just install any app on any distro, isolated from the base system and with granular rights management. I’ve just set up my first flatpak-centric system and didn’t notice any issues with it at all, apart from a 1-second waiting time before an app is launched.\n
    \n
    What’s your long-term experience?\n
    \n
    Notice any annoying bugs or instabilities? Do apps crash a lot? Disappear from Flathub or are unmaintained? Do you often have issues with apps that don’t integrate well with your native system? Are important apps missing?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
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  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 143
  +favouriteCount: 199
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699403219 {#1715
    date: 2023-11-08 01:26:59.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1630 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1628 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1618 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2363 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1926 …}
  +children: [
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
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        My experience with flatpak has been stellar from a technical perspective has been stellar.\n
        \n
        Where it currently falls short for me personally is trust. With my distro I am putting my trust into the maintainers, but with flatpak its… random people for most apps?\n
        \n
        It is tough when it is not a primary channel of distribution for most devs, but I am optimistic that will change in the future.
        """
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      +score: 0
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        date: 2023-11-05 02:56:32.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
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      +mentions: [
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      +ranking: 0
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      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699080472 {#1430
        date: 2023-11-04 07:47:52.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 88858
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
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      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1695}
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        Sandboxed just means an app can’t reach out to the rest of the OS. What about the information I am entrusting to it to process?\n
        \n
        If my browser is a flatpak, it likely has access to most of the information I care about. If I am using a chat app that is a flatpak, it can read my most personal communications. Why do I care if it can read what is in /etc?\n
        \n
        Relevant: [xkcd.com/1200/](https://xkcd.com/1200/)\n
        \n
        > Running an app from a developer already implies trust on your part.\n
        \n
        You totally missed my point. My point was that a lot of flatpaks are packaged by unknown third parties. I would love it if the devs would package things as flatpaks directly, but that is mostly not the case.\n
        \n
        Looking at flathub right now. 1567 applications are from unverified publishers vs 789 verified. Unverified apps include chrome, edge, chromium, brave, BITWARDEN and signal. All of those applications process highly sensitive information.
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  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699015103 {#1740
    date: 2023-11-03 13:38:23.0 +01:00
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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