Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.26 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2388
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1943 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
      2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 1
    +entryCount: 5926
    +entryCommentCount: 65073
    +postCount: 25
    +postCommentCount: 152
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729583092 {#276
      date: 2024-10-22 09:44:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#234 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#223 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#181 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#139 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#201 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#72 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1820 …}
    -id: 38
    +apId: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728572889 {#270
      date: 2024-10-10 17:08:09.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1696428223 {#272
      date: 2023-10-04 16:03:43.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#1962 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1924 …}
  +slug: "It-really-makes-me-cringe-every-time-they-talk-about"
  +title: "It really makes me cringe every time they talk about logic..."
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76f9caac-38a0-49a4-a455-cf460daccee3.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 101
  +favouriteCount: 836
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1708252401 {#2410
    date: 2024-02-18 11:33:21.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1948 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 15709
  -titleTs: "'cring':5 'everi':6 'logic':11 'make':3 'realli':2 'talk':9 'time':7"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700800522
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8631959"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700714122 {#1850
    date: 2023-11-23 05:35:22.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#2388
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1943 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
      2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 1
    +entryCount: 5926
    +entryCommentCount: 65073
    +postCount: 25
    +postCommentCount: 152
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729583092 {#276
      date: 2024-10-22 09:44:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#234 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#223 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#181 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#139 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#201 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#72 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1820 …}
    -id: 38
    +apId: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728572889 {#270
      date: 2024-10-10 17:08:09.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1696428223 {#272
      date: 2023-10-04 16:03:43.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#1962 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1924 …}
  +slug: "It-really-makes-me-cringe-every-time-they-talk-about"
  +title: "It really makes me cringe every time they talk about logic..."
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76f9caac-38a0-49a4-a455-cf460daccee3.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 101
  +favouriteCount: 836
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1708252401 {#2410
    date: 2024-02-18 11:33:21.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1948 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 15709
  -titleTs: "'cring':5 'everi':6 'logic':11 'make':3 'realli':2 'talk':9 'time':7"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700800522
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8631959"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700714122 {#1850
    date: 2023-11-23 05:35:22.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2388
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1943 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
      2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 1
    +entryCount: 5926
    +entryCommentCount: 65073
    +postCount: 25
    +postCommentCount: 152
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729583092 {#276
      date: 2024-10-22 09:44:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#234 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#223 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#181 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#139 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#201 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#72 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1820 …}
    -id: 38
    +apId: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728572889 {#270
      date: 2024-10-10 17:08:09.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1696428223 {#272
      date: 2023-10-04 16:03:43.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#1962 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1924 …}
  +slug: "It-really-makes-me-cringe-every-time-they-talk-about"
  +title: "It really makes me cringe every time they talk about logic..."
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76f9caac-38a0-49a4-a455-cf460daccee3.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 101
  +favouriteCount: 836
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1708252401 {#2410
    date: 2024-02-18 11:33:21.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1948 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 15709
  -titleTs: "'cring':5 'everi':6 'logic':11 'make':3 'realli':2 'talk':9 'time':7"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700800522
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8631959"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700714122 {#1850
    date: 2023-11-23 05:35:22.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#3981
  +user: App\Entity\User {#3930 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2388
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1943 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …}
      +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "memes"
      +description: """
        #### Rules:\n
        \n
        1. Be civil and nice.\n
        2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 1
      +entryCount: 5926
      +entryCommentCount: 65073
      +postCount: 25
      +postCommentCount: 152
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1729583092 {#276
        date: 2024-10-22 09:44:52.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#234 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#223 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#181 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#139 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#201 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#72 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1820 …}
      -id: 38
      +apId: "memes@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/memes/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728572889 {#270
        date: 2024-10-10 17:08:09.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1696428223 {#272
        date: 2023-10-04 16:03:43.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#1962 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1924 …}
    +slug: "It-really-makes-me-cringe-every-time-they-talk-about"
    +title: "It really makes me cringe every time they talk about logic..."
    +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76f9caac-38a0-49a4-a455-cf460daccee3.jpeg"
    +body: null
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 101
    +favouriteCount: 836
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1708252401 {#2410
      date: 2024-02-18 11:33:21.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
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      Yes, it’s emotional to disregard advice you know is good. However it is a logical reaction to have.\n
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          Let’s assume I didn’t know about vaccines and I went to ask for advice to someone. How would I know if what they told me was good advice?\n
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        You ended up agreeing with me in that last sentence.\n
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