GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@PrincessEli@reddthat.com

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.108
Profiled on
Token
9f66e6

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.86 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.05 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2377 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2018 …}
  +slug: "Apps-that-shouldn-t-be-Subscriptions"
  +title: "Apps that shouldn't be Subscriptions"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
    \n
    For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
    \n
    Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
    \n
    Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 170
  +favouriteCount: 291
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1702940454 {#2455
    date: 2023-12-19 00:00:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2020 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2022 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2032 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2089 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2133 …}
  +children: [
    4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1655 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1655 …}
      +body: """
        > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
        \n
        Personally, I’d love a “buy this version” option, where you can just pay once, and get a version that doesn’t recieve updates, and I could then choose to subscribe to the “live” version from there.\n
        \n
        Of course, this would just blow back in company’s faces when it comes to the “average” user, who would be a total fucking idiot and harass support about not getting updates they didn’t pay for
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1702667530 {#1434
        date: 2023-12-15 20:12:10.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@kirk782@discuss.tchncs.de"
        "@WashedOver@lemmy.ca"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1679 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1668 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1551 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1576 …}
      -id: 225283
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://reddthat.com/comment/5671231"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702667530 {#1699
        date: 2023-12-15 20:12:10.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 225283
    }
    3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1564
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1655 …}
      +body: """
        I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
        \n
        I figure a big difficulty is deciding on “major releases” vs rolling incremental development. If they’re going to sell major releases, they actually need to be able to consistently make pretty sizable upgrades, and not just “streamlined a couple menus, big fixes” type updates.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1702678978 {#1584
        date: 2023-12-15 23:22:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@kirk782@discuss.tchncs.de"
        "@WashedOver@lemmy.ca"
        "@PrincessEli@reddthat.com"
        "@tartan@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1525 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1566 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1562 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …}
      -id: 225749
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
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      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702678978 {#1548
        date: 2023-12-15 23:22:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 225749
    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1596 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1655 …}
      +body: "I disagree that major version updates equates to keeping them honest. Not everything needs major overhauls every few years. You can have a perfectly closed feedback loop, and still fail to sell people on buying 5.0.0 when 4.7.12 is still good enough, and recieved the little things that matter."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1702707099 {#1620
        date: 2023-12-16 07:11:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@kirk782@discuss.tchncs.de"
        "@WashedOver@lemmy.ca"
        "@PrincessEli@reddthat.com"
        "@tartan@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1619 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1701 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://reddthat.com/comment/5682156"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702707099 {#1613
        date: 2023-12-16 07:11:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 226513
    }
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1598 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1655 …}
      +body: "Are you just talking to hear yourself speak?"
      +lang: "en"
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      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1702711888 {#1711
        date: 2023-12-16 08:31:28.0 +01:00
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        "@kirk782@discuss.tchncs.de"
        "@WashedOver@lemmy.ca"
        "@PrincessEli@reddthat.com"
        "@tartan@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1630 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1628 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …}
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      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://reddthat.com/comment/5683014"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702711888 {#1616
        date: 2023-12-16 08:31:28.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 226609
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1726
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1728 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1736 …}
      +body: "You clearly haven’t dealt with the “average user”. Get ready for a boatload of idiots who followed some crappy tutorial for “how to get it for free” making a problem for support or review bombing the app when they lose all their data through incompetence."
      +lang: "en"
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      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1702712150 {#1722
        date: 2023-12-16 08:35:50.0 +01:00
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        "@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world"
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        "@tsonfeir@lemm.ee"
        "@WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world"
        "@ShrimpsIsBugs@programming.dev"
        "@Chriswild@lemmy.world"
      ]
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1734 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1727 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1733 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1724 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1715 …}
      -id: 226615
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      +ranking: 0
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  +editedAt: null
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    date: 2023-12-15 14:29:14.0 +01:00
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   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2377 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2018 …}
  +slug: "Apps-that-shouldn-t-be-Subscriptions"
  +title: "Apps that shouldn't be Subscriptions"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
    \n
    For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
    \n
    Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
    \n
    Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 170
  +favouriteCount: 291
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1702940454 {#2455
    date: 2023-12-19 00:00:54.0 +01:00
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  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2020 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2022 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2032 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2089 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2133 …}
  +children: [
    4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
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        > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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        I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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    What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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    Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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        > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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        I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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    > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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    > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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        +body: "I disagree that major version updates equates to keeping them honest. Not everything needs major overhauls every few years. You can have a perfectly closed feedback loop, and still fail to sell people on buying 5.0.0 when 4.7.12 is still good enough, and recieved the little things that matter."
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    > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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    I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      For me, I tried a ‘minimalist’ launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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    I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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    I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
          \n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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      Second, is a controversial choice, since it’s free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, *Pocketcasts*. I checked it’s yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to *Google Play Pass*, *YouTube Premium* and *Spotify* and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.\n
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      Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it’s good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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      What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a *subscription*?\n
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          > It’s hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.\n
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          I generally have little need for paid software since I don’t (or more accurately, can’t) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn’t aware of what’s out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.\n
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