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Response
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IP
216.73.216.88
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a18a86

Security

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Firewall

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Stateless

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
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6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
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9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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    Context: **Chat Control 2.0**: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption\n
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    *“By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial ‘chat control’ bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messages and photos for suspicious content and report it to the EU. To find a majority for this unprecedented mass surveillance, the EU Council Presidency proposed Tuesday that the scanners would initially search for previously classified CSAM only, and even less reliable technology to classify unknown imagery or conversations would be reserved to a later stage. The proposed „deal“ will be discussed by ambassadors tomorrow and could be adopted by ministers next week.”*\n
    \n
    Source: [patrick-breyer.de/…/chat-control-2-0-eu-governmen…](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/)
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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    Context: **Chat Control 2.0**: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption\n
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    \n
    Source: [patrick-breyer.de/…/chat-control-2-0-eu-governmen…](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/)
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    Source: [patrick-breyer.de/…/chat-control-2-0-eu-governmen…](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/)
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    Fairly fucking sure this is a nothingburger like Art. 13-17 was, and will not break E2EE messengers.\n
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    <span style="color:#323232;">[1] UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, ‘The right to privacy in the digital age’, A/HRC/51/17, 4 August 2022, para. 28, https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/ahrc5117-right-privacy-digital-age.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[2] https://edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2022/combat-child-sexual-abuse-online-presents-serious-risks-fundamental-rights_en.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[3] https://home.crin.org/readlistenwatch/stories/privacy-and-protection.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[4] https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-document-csa-law/.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[5] https://cdt.org/area-of-focus/government-surveillance/encryption-and-government-hacking/.\n
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    Source: [www.europarl.europa.eu/…/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html) (EUP Parliamentary question E-001661/2023)\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[3] https://home.crin.org/readlistenwatch/stories/privacy-and-protection.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[4] https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-document-csa-law/.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[5] https://cdt.org/area-of-focus/government-surveillance/encryption-and-government-hacking/.\n
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    Source: [www.europarl.europa.eu/…/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html) (EUP Parliamentary question E-001661/2023)\n
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    <span style="color:#323232;">[1] UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, ‘The right to privacy in the digital age’, A/HRC/51/17, 4 August 2022, para. 28, https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/ahrc5117-right-privacy-digital-age.\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[3] https://home.crin.org/readlistenwatch/stories/privacy-and-protection.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[4] https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-document-csa-law/.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">[5] https://cdt.org/area-of-focus/government-surveillance/encryption-and-government-hacking/.\n
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    Source: [www.europarl.europa.eu/…/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001661_EN.html) (EUP Parliamentary question E-001661/2023)\n
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    That’s very speculative though. We don’t know yet the effect how large scale quantum computing will have on encryption.\n
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    +body: "With quantum computing around the corner that key is useless. So not only is my data then shared with the EU, china and US will also have a little look"
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    That’s very speculative though. We don’t know yet the effect how large scale quantum computing will have on encryption.\n
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      That’s very speculative though. We don’t know yet the effect how large scale quantum computing will have on encryption.\n
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    I will just remind yall that an state in the EU has admitted to having access to the Pegasus spyware.\n
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    I will just remind yall that an state in the EU has admitted to having access to the Pegasus spyware.\n
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    I will just remind yall that an state in the EU has admitted to having access to the Pegasus spyware.\n
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      No shit. Only reason I bring it up is as a way to illustrate how badly I do not want this.\n
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    There are plans for Matrix to move to P2P someday… I wonder what would happen in that case. Or if we just used [tox.chat](https://tox.chat/)\n
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    There are plans for Matrix to move to P2P someday… I wonder what would happen in that case. Or if we just used [tox.chat](https://tox.chat/)\n
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          This is a level of bullshit that will straight up make me vote to leave the EU.\n
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          Outlawing E2EE should just not be a thing. It just shouldn’t.
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        One could think you’re proposing this as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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    There are plans for Matrix to move to P2P someday… I wonder what would happen in that case. Or if we just used [tox.chat](https://tox.chat/)\n
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        This is a level of bullshit that will straight up make me vote to leave the EU.\n
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      One could think you’re proposing this as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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    > One could think you’re proposing this [leaving the EU] as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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      One could think you’re proposing this as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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    > One could think you’re proposing this [leaving the EU] as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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        One could think you’re proposing this as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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      > One could think you’re proposing this [leaving the EU] as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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          This is a level of bullshit that will straight up make me vote to leave the EU.\n
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          Outlawing E2EE should just not be a thing. It just shouldn’t.
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        One could think you’re proposing this as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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      > One could think you’re proposing this [leaving the EU] as an alternate solution. It’s not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.\n
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        Friendly reminder it’s never about consumer rights. It’s about who is in control of the data.\n
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      A, by a goddamn long shot. If google mistakenly thinks I’ve advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they’ll remove my account and ban me from their services. If the government mistakenly thinks I’ve advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they’ll arrest me and ruin my life. Microsoft doesn’t give a shit if you acquired the 1s and 0s that comprise a popular TV show without paying for them. The government will fine you more than the average person will make in their entire life.\n
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App\Entity\Magazine {#265
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  +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
  +title: "memes"
  +description: """
    #### Rules:\n
    \n
    1. Be civil and nice.\n
    2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
    """
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