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      \n
      Read more about [how to comment at Daystrom](https://startrek.website/post/175954).\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      - [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
      - [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
      - [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
      - [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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    So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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      Serious, in-depth discussion about *Star Trek* from both in-universe and real world perspectives.\n
      \n
      Read more about [how to comment at Daystrom](https://startrek.website/post/175954).\n
      \n
      ##### **Rules**\n
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      **1. Explain your reasoning**\n
      \n
      All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.\n
      \n
      **2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.**\n
      \n
      This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in [Risa](https://startrek.website/c/risa).\n
      \n
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      **5. Tag spoilers.**\n
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      \n
      #### **Episode Guides**\n
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      The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:\n
      \n
      - [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
      - [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
      - [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
      - [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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    So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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      \n
      Serious, in-depth discussion about *Star Trek* from both in-universe and real world perspectives.\n
      \n
      Read more about [how to comment at Daystrom](https://startrek.website/post/175954).\n
      \n
      ##### **Rules**\n
      \n
      **1. Explain your reasoning**\n
      \n
      All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.\n
      \n
      **2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.**\n
      \n
      This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in [Risa](https://startrek.website/c/risa).\n
      \n
      **3. Be diplomatic.**\n
      \n
      Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make *Star Trek.* Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.\n
      \n
      **4. Assume good faith.**\n
      \n
      Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”\n
      \n
      **5. Tag spoilers.**\n
      \n
      Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.\n
      \n
      **6. Stay on-topic.**\n
      \n
      Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.\n
      \n
      #### **Episode Guides**\n
      \n
      The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:\n
      \n
      - [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
      - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
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      As other posters have pointed out to you, blithely dismissing OP’s question because they are asking about the meaning of “nonsense words made up by writers” is completely missing the point of this community. We all know Star Trek is fiction constructed by writers; pointing that out while adding nothing else of interest is both pointless and boring.\n
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        You won’t be able to make sense of it because the idea is just some nonsense words made up by writers as a means of allowing the story they wanted to tell to be told. It doesn’t make sense because it’s writing, not science.\n
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      As other posters have pointed out to you, blithely dismissing OP’s question because they are asking about the meaning of “nonsense words made up by writers” is completely missing the point of this community. We all know Star Trek is fiction constructed by writers; pointing that out while adding nothing else of interest is both pointless and boring.\n
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    My response was both serious and polite. No idea what you’re talking about.
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      So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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        You won’t be able to make sense of it because the idea is just some nonsense words made up by writers as a means of allowing the story they wanted to tell to be told. It doesn’t make sense because it’s writing, not science.\n
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      As other posters have pointed out to you, blithely dismissing OP’s question because they are asking about the meaning of “nonsense words made up by writers” is completely missing the point of this community. We all know Star Trek is fiction constructed by writers; pointing that out while adding nothing else of interest is both pointless and boring.\n
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      So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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      So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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    I think OP is implying that time works like a film strip, so that if I’m five minutes behind you, I see where you were five minutes ago.\n
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    I think that rather being just shifted in time a la time travel, they were actually dealing with a flex in spacetime, like a curve in the road you can’t quite see around, but Diana could see their essence like light from the tail lights, as in your example.\n
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    I think OP is implying that time works like a film strip, so that if I’m five minutes behind you, I see where you were five minutes ago.\n
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    That’s the way time *travel* in Trek works. If you travel from Time B in the future to Time A in the past at a given place, you see the place as it was at that time, including the people who were there.\n
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    I think that rather being just shifted in time a la time travel, they were actually dealing with a flex in spacetime, like a curve in the road you can’t quite see around, but Diana could see their essence like light from the tail lights, as in your example.\n
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      I think OP is implying that time works like a film strip, so that if I’m five minutes behind you, I see where you were five minutes ago.\n
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      That’s the way time *travel* in Trek works. If you travel from Time B in the future to Time A in the past at a given place, you see the place as it was at that time, including the people who were there.\n
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      I think that rather being just shifted in time a la time travel, they were actually dealing with a flex in spacetime, like a curve in the road you can’t quite see around, but Diana could see their essence like light from the tail lights, as in your example.\n
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      So in this episode they go into a cave, and can read some sort of energy field, as well as Troi having a sense that there are lifeforms present. Geordie explains that the people must be displaced in time, but only by a few milliseconds. If that’s true, how is there not overlap? Say the people are a few milliseconds ahead of the enterprise when they arrive, shouldn’t they appear a few milliseconds later, as they still would have had to be ‘present’ during that time? I don’t understand how they would be consistently invisible if time is a dimension like space that can be traveled through. Some past (or future) version of them would be present regardless of the desynchronization would they not?\n
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        Here’s a shot at the balloon filling up with water explanation:\n
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        It’s like two cars driving down a highway at night. You see the headlights from the car ahead of you illuminating the scenery, but you never catch up to them.
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      I think OP is implying that time works like a film strip, so that if I’m five minutes behind you, I see where you were five minutes ago.\n
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      That’s the way time *travel* in Trek works. If you travel from Time B in the future to Time A in the past at a given place, you see the place as it was at that time, including the people who were there.\n
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      I think that rather being just shifted in time a la time travel, they were actually dealing with a flex in spacetime, like a curve in the road you can’t quite see around, but Diana could see their essence like light from the tail lights, as in your example.\n
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    [Welcome to Daystrom Institute!](https://startrek.website/post/73)\n
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    Serious, in-depth discussion about *Star Trek* from both in-universe and real world perspectives.\n
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    Read more about [how to comment at Daystrom](https://startrek.website/post/175954).\n
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    ##### **Rules**\n
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    **1. Explain your reasoning**\n
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    All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.\n
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    **2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.**\n
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    This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in [Risa](https://startrek.website/c/risa).\n
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    **3. Be diplomatic.**\n
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    Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make *Star Trek.* Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.\n
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    **4. Assume good faith.**\n
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    Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”\n
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    **5. Tag spoilers.**\n
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    Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.\n
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    **6. Stay on-topic.**\n
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    #### **Episode Guides**\n
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    The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:\n
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    - [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
    - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
    - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
    - [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
    - [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
    - [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
    - [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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