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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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TOR is slow (by design), a VPN is fast.\n
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If your client or something leaks your IP it happens anyways, if you route it over one node or seven. All the extra energy is just wasted.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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A VPN gives you one IP that you can have for hours.\n
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A VPN supports UDP connections, TOR doesn’t.\n
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Connecting your Bittorrent client to the Socks-Proxy of a TOR client is a different setup than it just sending normal packets through a VPN tunnel.\n
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TOR is slow (by design), a VPN is fast.\n
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If your client or something leaks your IP it happens anyways, if you route it over one node or seven. All the extra energy is just wasted.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Excluding that doing so is bad for the network, why it is “private” using VPN but not Tor, inferring from [common consensus](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/torrenting-safely-with-vpn). The main point in the blog post is a protocol level problem:\n
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> apparently in some cases uTorrent, BitSpirit, and libTorrent simply write your IP address directly into the information they send to the tracker and/or to other peers\n
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Tor and VPN are both transports what wrap other traffic within. If that statement is true, no transport can save the information leaking nature of the BT protocol itself.
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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TOR is slow (by design), a VPN is fast.\n
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If your client or something leaks your IP it happens anyways, if you route it over one node or seven. All the extra energy is just wasted.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Excluding that doing so is bad for the network, why it is “private” using VPN but not Tor, inferring from [common consensus](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/torrenting-safely-with-vpn). The main point in the blog post is a protocol level problem:\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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A VPN gives you one IP that you can have for hours.\n
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TOR is slow (by design), a VPN is fast.\n
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If your client or something leaks your IP it happens anyways, if you route it over one node or seven. All the extra energy is just wasted.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Excluding that doing so is bad for the network, why it is “private” using VPN but not Tor, inferring from [common consensus](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/torrenting-safely-with-vpn). The main point in the blog post is a protocol level problem:\n
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Tor and VPN are both transports what wrap other traffic within. If that statement is true, no transport can save the information leaking nature of the BT protocol itself.
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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A VPN gives you one IP that you can have for hours.\n
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A VPN supports UDP connections, TOR doesn’t.\n
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Connecting your Bittorrent client to the Socks-Proxy of a TOR client is a different setup than it just sending normal packets through a VPN tunnel.\n
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TOR is slow (by design), a VPN is fast.\n
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If your client or something leaks your IP it happens anyways, if you route it over one node or seven. All the extra energy is just wasted.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
\n
For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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With Bittorrent you want lasting connections to other peers to be able to receive and send all the data. This doesn’t align with the ever changing IPs and stuff.\n
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And bittorrent puts even more strain on the TOR network the way it works. Making it slower for anybody else. And (ab)using the resources volunteers provide. (And which are meant for better use-cases.)
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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This is an continuation of my [last post](https://lemmy.ml/post/7505468), specifically a [comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5514226) from @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de:\n
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> It will never get recommended. It’s bad for the network and bad for your privacy.\n
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Both work quite differently. TOR routes you over several layers, obscures your IP and changes the IPs around occasionally so you can’t be tracked.\n
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Well, I don’t know the exact reasons. I read somewhere that it’s been a frequent issue. That has either to do with the way the torrent client is programmed and it doesn’t pay attention to the specifics for that case. Or the users frequently get the config wrong.\n
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For example: Since Tor doesn’t support UDP, if your torrent client sends out a UDP packet, it goes over your normal internet connection, immediately revealing your real IP. Whereas if you used a VPN, the packed had been tunneled and that would disguise you.\n
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Also the Socks-Proxy setup is more complicated. Seems to be the case there are just many more possibilities to get it wrong.\n
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I don’t know any reason why you couldn’t theoretically get it watertight. But you have to pay close attention to do it right.\n
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There could be specifics to torrent traffic that expose you in some way. I’m not sure, you’d need to ask a security expert about this. But a torrent download is another kind of data stream than the web-surfing Tor was made for. I know there was research done on Tor. I can only speculate.
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I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you’ve removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It’s now in your hands.\n
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I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you’ve removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It’s now in your hands.\n
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I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you’ve removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It’s now in your hands.\n
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I myself wouldn’t ignore such a letter. It’s now just asking you politely. If you continue they need to make the choice if it’s worth pursuing you. I don’t have any good insight if and under what circumstances they do. I would comply, remove said content and probably not reply to them. It’s unlikely to make it better for you if you talk to people targeting you. And I wouldn’t keep the logs around as they requested. Accidents happen, files get deleted, nobody is perfect.\n
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I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you’ve removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It’s now in your hands.\n
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I myself wouldn’t ignore such a letter. It’s now just asking you politely. If you continue they need to make the choice if it’s worth pursuing you. I don’t have any good insight if and under what circumstances they do. I would comply, remove said content and probably not reply to them. It’s unlikely to make it better for you if you talk to people targeting you. And I wouldn’t keep the logs around as they requested. Accidents happen, files get deleted, nobody is perfect.\n
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+body: "It’s a bit more complicated than that. It may very well be the case for political communities, I don’t really know. But for computer-related stuff and my niche interests, the federation between those instances has (only) benefit to it. So I don’t really support that conclusion in general. But I’m in support of pushing down on toxic behaviour. And not everything on Lemmy is what I’d like it to be."
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+body: "Dudes, Duderinas and people from all around… While I said something in the meta-debate here, I’m not engaging in the underlying argument. What are you trying to accomplish here? The people you are talking about are suffering horrible atrocities. All you can think about is hating on each other on the internet… (There has to be a better way to deal with the situation.)"
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