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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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> I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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+body: "I made up nothing. I simply quoted OP and everyone can see that. You on the other hand are clearly not arguing in good faith and I don´t have time for that. Blocked to prevent further animosities."
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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+body: "I made up nothing. I simply quoted OP and everyone can see that. You on the other hand are clearly not arguing in good faith and I don´t have time for that. Blocked to prevent further animosities."
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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I wish you both all the best!
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
\n
Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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> I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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> viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.\n
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That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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> And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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> simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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> as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Blocked to prevent further animosities.
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It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:\n
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You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.\n
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> A woman being upset is not a trap\n
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Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.\n
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I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.
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> I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.\n
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That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.\n
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> She was **underweight** before because she **hardly ate anything**. She’s way better now.\n
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So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact *underweight*, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.\n
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By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.\n
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You assume correctly.\n
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> if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.\n
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I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.
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> I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating\n
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I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.\n
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> your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words\n
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So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.\n
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Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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> If you’re a shitty trainer you should get a golden retriever instead of a Pit.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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Source: [www.aspca.org/…/position-statement-pit-bulls](https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls)\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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Source: [www.aspca.org/…/position-statement-pit-bulls](https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls)\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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Source: [www.aspca.org/…/position-statement-pit-bulls](https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls)\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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Source: [www.aspca.org/…/position-statement-pit-bulls](https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls)\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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> Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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That is exactly what I wrote earlier, nice that we agree in this point.\n
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> If you’re a shitty trainer you should get a golden retriever instead of a Pit.\n
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Hard disagree here, shitty trainers should not get any dog imo.
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Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous and hating any breed is stupid. People who do that have a one sided view. However, let’s be real, you have a one sided view too, just a positive one. The bad name of certain breeds has reasons, like the fact that they have been bred to fight and to max out biting power and to have an instinct to not let go when biting. I know Pitbulls are not the breed with the highest bite force but they are still in the top 10.\n
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No matter how sweet your individual Pitbull might be after a loving upbringing, many years of breeding with such goals definitely still affect the gene pool and like it or not, instinctive behavior, especially in stressful situations. Then there is the problem of bad people who get dogs as weapons and abuse them, turning them aggressive.
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> Therefore all the hate for one specific breed is idiotic, unfair and should be directed towards people not innocent creatures that we basically created.\n
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big collage of people captioned, “the only people I wouldn’t have minded being billionaires” \n
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- [Bram Moolenaar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Moolenaar), creator of vim, a charityware.\n
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on the bottom right is the text reading, “plus the thousands of free software enthusiasts working tirelessly.”
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