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Security

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Firewall

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Stateless

Configuration

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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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6 
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7 
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8 
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12 
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13 
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14 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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    As others have mentioned, it’s not quite that simple.\n
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    \n
    Giving “offense” is much more complex than just a single word. See, if we just replace the token, the AI may still decide that “Go **** yourself” is a perfectly valid response to a query. On the other hand, if you drop all instances of "fuck"from the data, your AI will just learn offensive euphemisms instead: “You can shove your request where the sun don’t shine”\n
    \n
    Worse, there are plenty of sexual / offensive phrases that are built up from perfectly innocuous tokens. “Prone bone”, for instance.\n
    \n
    The goal with these (and really almost all) AI models is for them to be “helpful, honest, and harmless”. Simply alerting or replacing a single token (or even combination of tokens) doesn’t really help, because the AI is modeling *concepts*, not just individual words.\n
    \n
    All of this to say that the problem being solved is not to stop an AI from *saying* “fuck” - it’s to build an AI that doesn’t *want* to.
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. [Please familiarize yourself with them](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
      \n
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      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
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    As others have mentioned, it’s not quite that simple.\n
    \n
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    \n
    Giving “offense” is much more complex than just a single word. See, if we just replace the token, the AI may still decide that “Go **** yourself” is a perfectly valid response to a query. On the other hand, if you drop all instances of "fuck"from the data, your AI will just learn offensive euphemisms instead: “You can shove your request where the sun don’t shine”\n
    \n
    Worse, there are plenty of sexual / offensive phrases that are built up from perfectly innocuous tokens. “Prone bone”, for instance.\n
    \n
    The goal with these (and really almost all) AI models is for them to be “helpful, honest, and harmless”. Simply alerting or replacing a single token (or even combination of tokens) doesn’t really help, because the AI is modeling *concepts*, not just individual words.\n
    \n
    All of this to say that the problem being solved is not to stop an AI from *saying* “fuck” - it’s to build an AI that doesn’t *want* to.
    """
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
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      \n
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