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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
\n
Today, as a long time Firefox user with the fantastic [uBlock Origin](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/) extension installed, I got my first anti-adblock popup on the platform. Note that this may not happen to you personally for a while, but it is inevitably coming for everyone.\n
\n
Thankfully, the fine folks at uBlock Origin have already advised a simple workaround ([on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/), yuck!) which I will duplicate in a simplified form below for your convenience. I have tested it on Firefox and it is working fine for me (so far).\n
\n
> PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS POST.\n
> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
> 3. Force an update of your Filter Lists. <== This is within the extension. Lists are what determine what’s blocked or not. How to update Filter lists: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 Purge all caches button > the 🔃 Update now button.\n
> 4. Disable all other extensions AND your browser’s built-in blockers. <== No need to uninstall, just disable them. They might interfere with our solutions.\n
> \n
> Make sure you follow all 4 points above. If you’re seeing the message, it’s likely due to your custom config (either additional lists or separate filters in My filters).\n
> \n
> Restarting your browser afterwards may help too.\n
> \n
> Once you’ve gotten rid of the issue on default settings, you can slowly start restoring your config (if you really need it). Do it gradually, to easier find out what was causing the issue in the first place. Once you find the culprit, simply skip it in your config.\n
> \n
> If you want to use Enhancer for YouTube*, you have to* disable its adblocking*.*\n
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**May the force uBlock Origin be with you!**\n
\n
Update\n
======\n
\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
- If you hate non-stop ads but want to support your favorite content creators then be sure to give them some love on Patreon or whatever alternative options they provide. Creators typically make only a tiny, tiny fraction of what YouTube makes in ad revenue, assuming YouTube doesn’t just outright steal the lot, and it’s a shitty business model that’s ruining the internet. Even if you watch the ads, you’re only supporting YouTube most of the time, not the creators.
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That’s what they want. Consume ads, pay or stop using bandwidth.\n
\n
I am unsure how much they care about views when so many have adblockers. It will be a useful metric when the huge majority can not block ads.
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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
\n
Today, as a long time Firefox user with the fantastic [uBlock Origin](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/) extension installed, I got my first anti-adblock popup on the platform. Note that this may not happen to you personally for a while, but it is inevitably coming for everyone.\n
\n
Thankfully, the fine folks at uBlock Origin have already advised a simple workaround ([on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/), yuck!) which I will duplicate in a simplified form below for your convenience. I have tested it on Firefox and it is working fine for me (so far).\n
\n
> PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS POST.\n
> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
> 3. Force an update of your Filter Lists. <== This is within the extension. Lists are what determine what’s blocked or not. How to update Filter lists: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 Purge all caches button > the 🔃 Update now button.\n
> 4. Disable all other extensions AND your browser’s built-in blockers. <== No need to uninstall, just disable them. They might interfere with our solutions.\n
> \n
> Make sure you follow all 4 points above. If you’re seeing the message, it’s likely due to your custom config (either additional lists or separate filters in My filters).\n
> \n
> Restarting your browser afterwards may help too.\n
> \n
> Once you’ve gotten rid of the issue on default settings, you can slowly start restoring your config (if you really need it). Do it gradually, to easier find out what was causing the issue in the first place. Once you find the culprit, simply skip it in your config.\n
> \n
> If you want to use Enhancer for YouTube*, you have to* disable its adblocking*.*\n
\n
**May the force uBlock Origin be with you!**\n
\n
Update\n
======\n
\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
- If you hate non-stop ads but want to support your favorite content creators then be sure to give them some love on Patreon or whatever alternative options they provide. Creators typically make only a tiny, tiny fraction of what YouTube makes in ad revenue, assuming YouTube doesn’t just outright steal the lot, and it’s a shitty business model that’s ruining the internet. Even if you watch the ads, you’re only supporting YouTube most of the time, not the creators.
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That’s what they want. Consume ads, pay or stop using bandwidth.\n
\n
I am unsure how much they care about views when so many have adblockers. It will be a useful metric when the huge majority can not block ads.
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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
\n
Today, as a long time Firefox user with the fantastic [uBlock Origin](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/) extension installed, I got my first anti-adblock popup on the platform. Note that this may not happen to you personally for a while, but it is inevitably coming for everyone.\n
\n
Thankfully, the fine folks at uBlock Origin have already advised a simple workaround ([on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/), yuck!) which I will duplicate in a simplified form below for your convenience. I have tested it on Firefox and it is working fine for me (so far).\n
\n
> PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS POST.\n
> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
> 3. Force an update of your Filter Lists. <== This is within the extension. Lists are what determine what’s blocked or not. How to update Filter lists: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 Purge all caches button > the 🔃 Update now button.\n
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\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
- If you hate non-stop ads but want to support your favorite content creators then be sure to give them some love on Patreon or whatever alternative options they provide. Creators typically make only a tiny, tiny fraction of what YouTube makes in ad revenue, assuming YouTube doesn’t just outright steal the lot, and it’s a shitty business model that’s ruining the internet. Even if you watch the ads, you’re only supporting YouTube most of the time, not the creators.
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That’s what they want. Consume ads, pay or stop using bandwidth.\n
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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
\n
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> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
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> 4. Disable all other extensions AND your browser’s built-in blockers. <== No need to uninstall, just disable them. They might interfere with our solutions.\n
> \n
> Make sure you follow all 4 points above. If you’re seeing the message, it’s likely due to your custom config (either additional lists or separate filters in My filters).\n
> \n
> Restarting your browser afterwards may help too.\n
> \n
> Once you’ve gotten rid of the issue on default settings, you can slowly start restoring your config (if you really need it). Do it gradually, to easier find out what was causing the issue in the first place. Once you find the culprit, simply skip it in your config.\n
> \n
> If you want to use Enhancer for YouTube*, you have to* disable its adblocking*.*\n
\n
**May the force uBlock Origin be with you!**\n
\n
Update\n
======\n
\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
- If you hate non-stop ads but want to support your favorite content creators then be sure to give them some love on Patreon or whatever alternative options they provide. Creators typically make only a tiny, tiny fraction of what YouTube makes in ad revenue, assuming YouTube doesn’t just outright steal the lot, and it’s a shitty business model that’s ruining the internet. Even if you watch the ads, you’re only supporting YouTube most of the time, not the creators.
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That’s what they want. Consume ads, pay or stop using bandwidth.\n
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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
\n
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\n
Thankfully, the fine folks at uBlock Origin have already advised a simple workaround ([on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/), yuck!) which I will duplicate in a simplified form below for your convenience. I have tested it on Firefox and it is working fine for me (so far).\n
\n
> PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS POST.\n
> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
> 3. Force an update of your Filter Lists. <== This is within the extension. Lists are what determine what’s blocked or not. How to update Filter lists: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 Purge all caches button > the 🔃 Update now button.\n
> 4. Disable all other extensions AND your browser’s built-in blockers. <== No need to uninstall, just disable them. They might interfere with our solutions.\n
> \n
> Make sure you follow all 4 points above. If you’re seeing the message, it’s likely due to your custom config (either additional lists or separate filters in My filters).\n
> \n
> Restarting your browser afterwards may help too.\n
> \n
> Once you’ve gotten rid of the issue on default settings, you can slowly start restoring your config (if you really need it). Do it gradually, to easier find out what was causing the issue in the first place. Once you find the culprit, simply skip it in your config.\n
> \n
> If you want to use Enhancer for YouTube*, you have to* disable its adblocking*.*\n
\n
**May the force uBlock Origin be with you!**\n
\n
Update\n
======\n
\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
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That’s what they want. Consume ads, pay or stop using bandwidth.\n
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I am unsure how much they care about views when so many have adblockers. It will be a useful metric when the huge majority can not block ads.
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I’m sure many of you are already aware that YouTube has been rolling out anti-adblock detection for Chrome users for a few weeks now.\n
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Today, as a long time Firefox user with the fantastic [uBlock Origin](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/) extension installed, I got my first anti-adblock popup on the platform. Note that this may not happen to you personally for a while, but it is inevitably coming for everyone.\n
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Thankfully, the fine folks at uBlock Origin have already advised a simple workaround ([on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/), yuck!) which I will duplicate in a simplified form below for your convenience. I have tested it on Firefox and it is working fine for me (so far).\n
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> PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS POST.\n
> \n
> 1. Update uBO to the latest version (1.52.0+) . <== The extension itself, for technical improvements. You do this in your browser.\n
> 2. Remove your custom config / reset to defaults. <== This means removing your custom filters (or disabling My filters) and disabling ALL additional lists you’ve enabled. It might be quicker to make a backup of your config and restore to defaults instead.\n
> 3. Force an update of your Filter Lists. <== This is within the extension. Lists are what determine what’s blocked or not. How to update Filter lists: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 Purge all caches button > the 🔃 Update now button.\n
> 4. Disable all other extensions AND your browser’s built-in blockers. <== No need to uninstall, just disable them. They might interfere with our solutions.\n
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> Make sure you follow all 4 points above. If you’re seeing the message, it’s likely due to your custom config (either additional lists or separate filters in My filters).\n
> \n
> Restarting your browser afterwards may help too.\n
> \n
> Once you’ve gotten rid of the issue on default settings, you can slowly start restoring your config (if you really need it). Do it gradually, to easier find out what was causing the issue in the first place. Once you find the culprit, simply skip it in your config.\n
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> If you want to use Enhancer for YouTube*, you have to* disable its adblocking*.*\n
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**May the force uBlock Origin be with you!**\n
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Update\n
======\n
\n
Just wanted to mention a few things that have been pointed out in the comments:\n
\n
- There are quite a few projects that provide an alternative ad-free front end to YouTube. These include [Invidious](https://docs.invidious.io/instances/), [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), [LibreTube](https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube), [Newpipe](https://newpipe.net/), [Revanced](https://revanced.io/YouTube/), and I’m sure there are several more options I’ve missed. I don’t have any particular preference really but I routinely use NewPipe on my cellphone just because I tried it once and couldn’t be bothered trying all the others.\n
- In step 4 listed above, to clarify, afaik you only need to remove adblocker extensions (if you have more than one installed) that might conflict with the uBlock Origin rules and trigger the anti-adblock, not all extensions.\n
- If you hate non-stop ads but want to support your favorite content creators then be sure to give them some love on Patreon or whatever alternative options they provide. Creators typically make only a tiny, tiny fraction of what YouTube makes in ad revenue, assuming YouTube doesn’t just outright steal the lot, and it’s a shitty business model that’s ruining the internet. Even if you watch the ads, you’re only supporting YouTube most of the time, not the creators.
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I use Sync and don’t pay anything. It’s brilliant and the ads are basically invisible and rare.\n
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Literally was the best Reddit app and it is a *fantastic* port to Lemmy.\n
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You can choose to pay the dev if you want to. I haven’t yet, but likely will if I spend more time here.
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Now, your ISP provides your router, which runs *their* firmware, which (in my case) doesn’t even have the option to enable port forwarding.\n
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It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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It’s frustrating.\n
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It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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\n
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So I was looking into getting port forwarding set up and I realized just how closed-off the internet has gotten since the early days. It’s concerning. It used to be you would buy your own router and connect it to the internet, and that router would control port-forwarding and what-have-you.\n
\n
Now, your ISP provides your router, which runs *their* firmware, which (in my case) doesn’t even have the option to enable port forwarding.\n
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It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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Basically this all means that I *have* to purchase my web hosting separately. Or relay all the traffic through an unnecessary third party, introducing a point of failure.\n
\n
It’s frustrating.\n
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I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
\n
Edit: TIL ISPs in the US don’t have NATs\n
\n
Edit 2: OMG so much advice. My knowledge about computers is SO clearly outdated, I have a lot of things to read up on.\n
\n
Edit 3: There’s definitely a CGNAT involved since the WAN ip in the router config is not the same as the one I get when I use a website that echos my IP address. Far as I can tell my devices don’t get unique IPv6 addresses either. (funnily enough, if I check my IP address on my phone using roaming data, there’s no IPv6 address at all). It’s a router/modem combo, at least I think since there’s only one device in my apartment (maybe there’s a modem managing the whole complex or something?). And it doesn’t have a bridge mode, except for OTT. Might try plugging my own router into it, but it feels like a waste of time and money from what I’m seeing. Probably best to just host services over a VPN or smth.\n
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Edit 4: Devices do get unique IPv6 addresses, but it’s moot since I can’t do anything but ping them. I guess it wouldn’t be port forwarding but something else that I would have to do that my router doesn’t support
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So I was looking into getting port forwarding set up and I realized just how closed-off the internet has gotten since the early days. It’s concerning. It used to be you would buy your own router and connect it to the internet, and that router would control port-forwarding and what-have-you.\n
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Now, your ISP provides your router, which runs *their* firmware, which (in my case) doesn’t even have the option to enable port forwarding.\n
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It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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Basically this all means that I *have* to purchase my web hosting separately. Or relay all the traffic through an unnecessary third party, introducing a point of failure.\n
\n
It’s frustrating.\n
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I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
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Edit: TIL ISPs in the US don’t have NATs\n
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Edit 2: OMG so much advice. My knowledge about computers is SO clearly outdated, I have a lot of things to read up on.\n
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Edit 3: There’s definitely a CGNAT involved since the WAN ip in the router config is not the same as the one I get when I use a website that echos my IP address. Far as I can tell my devices don’t get unique IPv6 addresses either. (funnily enough, if I check my IP address on my phone using roaming data, there’s no IPv6 address at all). It’s a router/modem combo, at least I think since there’s only one device in my apartment (maybe there’s a modem managing the whole complex or something?). And it doesn’t have a bridge mode, except for OTT. Might try plugging my own router into it, but it feels like a waste of time and money from what I’m seeing. Probably best to just host services over a VPN or smth.\n
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Edit 4: Devices do get unique IPv6 addresses, but it’s moot since I can’t do anything but ping them. I guess it wouldn’t be port forwarding but something else that I would have to do that my router doesn’t support
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The older and shittier the ISP the more blocks of IPV4 addresses they have. They have blocks from when they were given out willy nilly.\n
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So I was looking into getting port forwarding set up and I realized just how closed-off the internet has gotten since the early days. It’s concerning. It used to be you would buy your own router and connect it to the internet, and that router would control port-forwarding and what-have-you.\n
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Now, your ISP provides your router, which runs *their* firmware, which (in my case) doesn’t even have the option to enable port forwarding.\n
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It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
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Edit: TIL ISPs in the US don’t have NATs\n
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