Symfony Profiler

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	2.77 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.05 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

#	Voter class
1	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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      \n
      ---\n
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      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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      \n
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      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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    +title: "privacyguides"
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      \n
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
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      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
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      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
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        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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        Based on privacyguides [suggestion page](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/) itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.\n
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        Briar is only for Android AFAIK. Matrix/Element does offer E2EE chat/vid but, based on the page, it’s not recommended for long term sensitive use.\n
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    Briar is probably the best bet if we want something that works despite any governmental effort to break encrypted messaging.\n
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    I never really used it (I don’t have anyone around it interested to try it with me :'( ) but I would be interested to hear more about it if anyone has experience with it.
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Based on privacyguides [suggestion page](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/) itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.\n
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    Briar is probably the best bet if we want something that works despite any governmental effort to break encrypted messaging.\n
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        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Based on privacyguides [suggestion page](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/) itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.\n
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        Briar is only for Android AFAIK. Matrix/Element does offer E2EE chat/vid but, based on the page, it’s not recommended for long term sensitive use.\n
        \n
        Regardless, with the current situation against encryption, any app that stays will be subject to similar conundrum about leaving/abiding the law like Signal. The ones abiding may need more scrutiny, of course.
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    +body: "Briar can be distributed from device to device via a direct download and works without relying on a central server. You can even chat without access to the internet via bluetooth or external storage. I don't think getting rid of Briar is going to work... ;) What I'm trying to say is that Briar was also made with laws like these in mind, and it will be able to continue existing even if Briar would be forced to somehow disable downloads from the eu."
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    Briar is probably the best bet if we want something that works despite any governmental effort to break encrypted messaging.\n
    \n
    I never really used it (I don’t have anyone around it interested to try it with me :'( ) but I would be interested to hear more about it if anyone has experience with it.
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      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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      Based on privacyguides [suggestion page](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/) itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.\n
      \n
      Briar is only for Android AFAIK. Matrix/Element does offer E2EE chat/vid but, based on the page, it’s not recommended for long term sensitive use.\n
      \n
      Regardless, with the current situation against encryption, any app that stays will be subject to similar conundrum about leaving/abiding the law like Signal. The ones abiding may need more scrutiny, of course.
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    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#263
      +icon: null
      +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
      +title: "privacyguides"
      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    I’m quoting the page that I linked from privacyguides warning\n
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    I’m quoting the page that I linked from privacyguides warning\n
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    I’m quoting the page that I linked from privacyguides warning\n
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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        Edit: also what does exiting the EU actually mean? Like what would prevent you from just continuing to use the app?
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    +body: "Thank you for your reply. It’s in regards to [https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/,](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/) but maybe I’m being an alarmist?"
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  +body: "I really can’t believe that chat control will come. But also I was wrong before and strange things happen… So there are applications that can’t really be considert providers of chat services. Like: [Deltachat](https://delta.chat), [Element](https://element.io), [Conversations](https://conversations.im/) or [Silence](https://silence.im). Which use the protocol’s Email, Matrix, XMPP, SMS for which there are numerous providers. Therefore allowing you to simply send E2E messages without the provider having any influence."
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      +icon: null
      +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
      +title: "privacyguides"
      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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        I think Signal won’t leave unless they have to (have to meaning if the only alternative to leaving is to undermine user privacy/security which they will not do)\n
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    +body: "Thank you for your reply. It’s in regards to [https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/,](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/) but maybe I’m being an alarmist?"
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Edit: also what does exiting the EU actually mean? Like what would prevent you from just continuing to use the app?
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    +body: "Thank you for your reply. It’s in regards to [https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/,](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/) but maybe I’m being an alarmist?"
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  +body: "I really can’t believe that chat control will come. But also I was wrong before and strange things happen… So there are applications that can’t really be considert providers of chat services. Like: [Deltachat](https://delta.chat), [Element](https://element.io), [Conversations](https://conversations.im/) or [Silence](https://silence.im). Which use the protocol’s Email, Matrix, XMPP, SMS for which there are numerous providers. Therefore allowing you to simply send E2E messages without the provider having any influence."
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      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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      Edit: also what does exiting the EU actually mean? Like what would prevent you from just continuing to use the app?
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  +body: "Another problem with phone number requirement. EU phone number? Get out of here. Otherwise you’re right. With a vpn, what’s to stop you from continuing to use it."
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      +icon: null
      +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
      +title: "privacyguides"
      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    +body: "Another problem with phone number requirement. EU phone number? Get out of here. Otherwise you’re right. With a vpn, what’s to stop you from continuing to use it."
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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  +body: "Why would Signal stop accepting European phone numbers? It’s not like they want to leave the EU, they can just continue offering their services to EU users, but they can’t have servers or offices or any legal entities in the EU if they get banned. That’s not such a problem, you can access Signal over the internet from anywhere in the world, and if EU states start blocking Signal, you can still use Signal TLS proxies, good old VPNs or Tor. Edit: Signal is also banned in Iran, but they of course accept Iranian phone numbers, as they don’t impose the ban, the Iranian government does. You don’t really have to worry about this, I’m sure Signal will do everything in their power to continue to operate, even in jurisdictions in which it’s banned."
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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    +body: "Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low. ( Going to ask in the other privacy community as well but am not spamming)"
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        I think Signal won’t leave unless they have to (have to meaning if the only alternative to leaving is to undermine user privacy/security which they will not do)\n
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        And if Signal has no other alternative than I can’t see how every other e2ee messenger wouldn’t also face the same difficult choice.\n
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        Edit: also what does exiting the EU actually mean? Like what would prevent you from just continuing to use the app?
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      +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
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        \n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
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        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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    I am not an expert, but chat control and interoperable protocols are two different things, aren’t they? With stopping chat control you wouldn’t stop the law that’s restricting signal’s e2e-problem.\n
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
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        \n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    The Digital Markets Act, enforces the interoperability of major messengers with other messengers. Signal does not have to follow this because it is not a "Gatekeeper."\n
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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      I am not an expert, but chat control and interoperable protocols are two different things, aren’t they? With stopping chat control you wouldn’t stop the law that’s restricting signal’s e2e-problem.\n
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    Chatcontrol, the mass surveillance law, leads to the breaking of end-to-end encryption. Signal would have to follow this.\n
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    The Digital Markets Act, enforces the interoperability of major messengers with other messengers. Signal does not have to follow this because it is not a "Gatekeeper."\n
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      +icon: null
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      +description: """
        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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      I am not an expert, but chat control and interoperable protocols are two different things, aren’t they? With stopping chat control you wouldn’t stop the law that’s restricting signal’s e2e-problem.\n
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    Chatcontrol, the mass surveillance law, leads to the breaking of end-to-end encryption. Signal would have to follow this.\n
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
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        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
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        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Moderation Rules:**\n
        \n
        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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      +description: """
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        \n
        This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        \n
        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        ---\n
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        **Moderation Rules:**\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
        """
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
    - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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    Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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    Additional Resources:\n
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    - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
    - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
    - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
    - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
    - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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