GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@Macros@feddit.de/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.21
Profiled on
Token
ae32ff

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 7.83 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.07 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2371 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2020 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2013 …}
  +slug: "Linux-on-a-2in1-for-Uni"
  +title: "Linux on a 2in1 for Uni"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6de4c5d8-f73f-4280-9221-0c32a694f51c.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Hello linix@lemmy, I got fixed on the idea of replacing my iPad with a 2in1 like the thibkpad X13 for uni since I use the keyboard with my iPad a lot. The only time I need to take handwritten notes is in chemistry, mathematics and to annotate PDFs. Does anyone here have experience with convertibles running Linux? What would be the best one for palm rejection and writing?\n
    \n
    I was unable to find reviews on reasonably modern hardware. Until now I have my eyes set on an Thinkpad X13 since it is Ubuntu certified at least. Thanks :)
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 38
  +favouriteCount: 87
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1701979089 {#2033
    date: 2023-12-07 20:58:09.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2079 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2078 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2082 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        I had good experiences with the Zenbook-Flip Series from Asus. Linux support is great, build quality too. It even survived a big drop with only the screen falling out, but still working. I just inserted it again. Battery life is also great which is perfect for university.\n
        \n
        Palm rejection did not work reliable however. I just got used to disable the touchpad with a keycombo whenever I started typing longer passages of text.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699433701 {#1434
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Defaultplace@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1575 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1581 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1579 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1576 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …}
      -id: 101165
      -bodyTs: "'also':43 'asus':12 'batteri':40 'big':24 'build':17 'disabl':62 'drop':25 'even':21 'experi':4 'fall':30 'flip':9 'good':3 'got':59 'great':16,44 'howev':56 'insert':37 'keycombo':67 'life':41 'linux':13 'longer':72 'palm':50 'passag':73 'perfect':47 'qualiti':18 'reject':51 'reliabl':55 'screen':29 'seri':10 'start':70 'still':33 'support':14 'surviv':22 'text':75 'touchpad':64 'type':71 'univers':49 'use':60 'whenev':68 'work':34,54 'zenbook':8 'zenbook-flip':7"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.de/comment/4618382"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699433701 {#1699
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 101165
    }
  ]
  -id: 11111
  -titleTs: "'2in1':4 'linux':1 'uni':6"
  -bodyTs: "'2in1':16 'annot':48 'anyon':51 'best':63 'certifi':95 'chemistri':44 'convert':56 'experi':54 'eye':85 'find':74 'fix':6 'got':5 'handwritten':40 'hardwar':79 'hello':1 'idea':9 'ipad':13,30 'keyboard':27 'least':97 'lemmi':3 'like':17 'linix':2 'linux':58 'lot':32 'mathemat':45 'modern':78 'need':37 'note':41 'one':64 'palm':66 'pdfs':49 'reason':77 'reject':67 'replac':11 'review':75 'run':57 'set':86 'sinc':23,91 'take':39 'thank':98 'thibkpad':19 'thinkpad':89 'time':35 'ubuntu':94 'unabl':72 'uni':22 'use':25 'would':60 'write':69 'x13':20,90"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699516863
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/7959212"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699430463 {#2460
    date: 2023-11-08 09:01:03.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2371 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2020 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2013 …}
  +slug: "Linux-on-a-2in1-for-Uni"
  +title: "Linux on a 2in1 for Uni"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6de4c5d8-f73f-4280-9221-0c32a694f51c.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Hello linix@lemmy, I got fixed on the idea of replacing my iPad with a 2in1 like the thibkpad X13 for uni since I use the keyboard with my iPad a lot. The only time I need to take handwritten notes is in chemistry, mathematics and to annotate PDFs. Does anyone here have experience with convertibles running Linux? What would be the best one for palm rejection and writing?\n
    \n
    I was unable to find reviews on reasonably modern hardware. Until now I have my eyes set on an Thinkpad X13 since it is Ubuntu certified at least. Thanks :)
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 38
  +favouriteCount: 87
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1701979089 {#2033
    date: 2023-12-07 20:58:09.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2079 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2078 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2082 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        I had good experiences with the Zenbook-Flip Series from Asus. Linux support is great, build quality too. It even survived a big drop with only the screen falling out, but still working. I just inserted it again. Battery life is also great which is perfect for university.\n
        \n
        Palm rejection did not work reliable however. I just got used to disable the touchpad with a keycombo whenever I started typing longer passages of text.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699433701 {#1434
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Defaultplace@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1575 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1581 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1579 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1576 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …}
      -id: 101165
      -bodyTs: "'also':43 'asus':12 'batteri':40 'big':24 'build':17 'disabl':62 'drop':25 'even':21 'experi':4 'fall':30 'flip':9 'good':3 'got':59 'great':16,44 'howev':56 'insert':37 'keycombo':67 'life':41 'linux':13 'longer':72 'palm':50 'passag':73 'perfect':47 'qualiti':18 'reject':51 'reliabl':55 'screen':29 'seri':10 'start':70 'still':33 'support':14 'surviv':22 'text':75 'touchpad':64 'type':71 'univers':49 'use':60 'whenev':68 'work':34,54 'zenbook':8 'zenbook-flip':7"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.de/comment/4618382"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699433701 {#1699
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 101165
    }
  ]
  -id: 11111
  -titleTs: "'2in1':4 'linux':1 'uni':6"
  -bodyTs: "'2in1':16 'annot':48 'anyon':51 'best':63 'certifi':95 'chemistri':44 'convert':56 'experi':54 'eye':85 'find':74 'fix':6 'got':5 'handwritten':40 'hardwar':79 'hello':1 'idea':9 'ipad':13,30 'keyboard':27 'least':97 'lemmi':3 'like':17 'linix':2 'linux':58 'lot':32 'mathemat':45 'modern':78 'need':37 'note':41 'one':64 'palm':66 'pdfs':49 'reason':77 'reject':67 'replac':11 'review':75 'run':57 'set':86 'sinc':23,91 'take':39 'thank':98 'thibkpad':19 'thinkpad':89 'time':35 'ubuntu':94 'unabl':72 'uni':22 'use':25 'would':60 'write':69 'x13':20,90"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699516863
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/7959212"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699430463 {#2460
    date: 2023-11-08 09:01:03.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2371 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2020 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2013 …}
  +slug: "Linux-on-a-2in1-for-Uni"
  +title: "Linux on a 2in1 for Uni"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6de4c5d8-f73f-4280-9221-0c32a694f51c.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Hello linix@lemmy, I got fixed on the idea of replacing my iPad with a 2in1 like the thibkpad X13 for uni since I use the keyboard with my iPad a lot. The only time I need to take handwritten notes is in chemistry, mathematics and to annotate PDFs. Does anyone here have experience with convertibles running Linux? What would be the best one for palm rejection and writing?\n
    \n
    I was unable to find reviews on reasonably modern hardware. Until now I have my eyes set on an Thinkpad X13 since it is Ubuntu certified at least. Thanks :)
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 38
  +favouriteCount: 87
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1701979089 {#2033
    date: 2023-12-07 20:58:09.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2079 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2078 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2082 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1610
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1583 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1587 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        I had good experiences with the Zenbook-Flip Series from Asus. Linux support is great, build quality too. It even survived a big drop with only the screen falling out, but still working. I just inserted it again. Battery life is also great which is perfect for university.\n
        \n
        Palm rejection did not work reliable however. I just got used to disable the touchpad with a keycombo whenever I started typing longer passages of text.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699433701 {#1434
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Defaultplace@lemmy.world"
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      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1575 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1581 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1579 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1576 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.de/comment/4618382"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699433701 {#1699
        date: 2023-11-08 09:55:01.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 101165
    }
  ]
  -id: 11111
  -titleTs: "'2in1':4 'linux':1 'uni':6"
  -bodyTs: "'2in1':16 'annot':48 'anyon':51 'best':63 'certifi':95 'chemistri':44 'convert':56 'experi':54 'eye':85 'find':74 'fix':6 'got':5 'handwritten':40 'hardwar':79 'hello':1 'idea':9 'ipad':13,30 'keyboard':27 'least':97 'lemmi':3 'like':17 'linix':2 'linux':58 'lot':32 'mathemat':45 'modern':78 'need':37 'note':41 'one':64 'palm':66 'pdfs':49 'reason':77 'reject':67 'replac':11 'review':75 'run':57 'set':86 'sinc':23,91 'take':39 'thank':98 'thibkpad':19 'thinkpad':89 'time':35 'ubuntu':94 'unabl':72 'uni':22 'use':25 'would':60 'write':69 'x13':20,90"
  +cross: false
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  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699516863
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/7959212"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699430463 {#2460
    date: 2023-11-08 09:01:03.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
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}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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          An no, security updates can’t run in the background. If I sit a user in front of a PC, the PC has to be secure. Which means that the [zero day exploits](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-edge-teams-get-fixes-for-zero-days-in-open-source-libraries/) from a few days ago which are already exploited in the wild have to be fixed. Also yes, software for basic tasks and configuration till usability is reached is part of an operating system install. Otherwise you have to compare the time to install a barebones Linux (1 Minute) with a bare Windows install (still 30 minutes).\n
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
22 DENIED ROLE_MODERATOR 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details