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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
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0.25 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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}
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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}
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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Access decision log

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ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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2 DENIED moderate
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    > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
    \n
    > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
    \n
    [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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      +body: """
        Lol. Learn your history.\n
        \n
        In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
        \n
        Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
        """
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        date: 2023-12-31 14:51:22.0 +01:00
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      +body: """
        But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
        \n
        Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
        \n
        If the makers of railways insisted that all current users agents had to work on them without adaption. Many of the advantages would no longer be there.\n
        \n
        Just as if waylaid did not expect Firefox et al to adapt to its methods. The security and other advantages they seek would not be practice.\n
        \n
        Waylaid is a replacement. Not an upgrade.\n
        \n
        (PS yeah living in the UK replace canal with inland waterways navigation. Tends to be how we think of it. As they are such a huge part of our industrial history. I forget the US really never went through that part of europeen industrial development. Your example is a fairly unique and modern by comparison, it dose not link to any network. Where as the inland waterways accross the UK and parts of Europe were a linked inferstructure like our railways. When the railways in Europe were built. They were very much seen as a replacement to our existing canal system. By both the corperations set up to build the inferstructure and the media of the time. It is literally a part of our industrial history thought is schools here. As so much of our culture and industrial revolution is built around the events)
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      +body: """
        As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
        \n
        It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
        \n
        Replace not upgrade.\n
        \n
        PS i still use canals. Bur do not blame the raIlway for not fitting my boat.
        """
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      +body: """
        Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
        \n
        Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
        \n
        Canals built a huge industry allowing manufacturers to ship goods to cities while shipping resources from the mines and farms etc.\n
        \n
        But industries like meat fish milk and strongly enough market gardening (fresh flowers) were very limited to local areas before the railways. Took off hugely when the railways intentionally set up in direct competition to the canals.\n
        \n
        Canals survived for a while moving the slower stuff. But started needing to redesign to support bigger and more boats faster. Before finally closing down.\n
        \n
        The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
        \n
        Passenger rail really was not a big thing untill about the 1920s.
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3 DENIED edit
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    > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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    > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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    [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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        Lol. Learn your history.\n
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        In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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        Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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        But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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        As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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        It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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        Replace not upgrade.\n
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        Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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        Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
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        Lol. Learn your history.\n
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        But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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        Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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        As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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        Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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        Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Replace not upgrade.\n
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          PS i still use canals. Bur do not blame the raIlway for not fitting my boat.
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    Lol. Learn your history.\n
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    In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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    Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    Lol. Learn your history.\n
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    Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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    But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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          Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Replace not upgrade.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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    Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Replace not upgrade.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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          Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
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          The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
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          Passenger rail really was not a big thing untill about the 1920s.
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    As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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    It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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    Replace not upgrade.\n
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    PS i still use canals. Bur do not blame the raIlway for not fitting my boat.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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          Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          If the makers of railways insisted that all current users agents had to work on them without adaption. Many of the advantages would no longer be there.\n
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          Just as if waylaid did not expect Firefox et al to adapt to its methods. The security and other advantages they seek would not be practice.\n
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          Waylaid is a replacement. Not an upgrade.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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          Canals survived for a while moving the slower stuff. But started needing to redesign to support bigger and more boats faster. Before finally closing down.\n
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          The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
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    As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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    It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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          Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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          Canals built a huge industry allowing manufacturers to ship goods to cities while shipping resources from the mines and farms etc.\n
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          But industries like meat fish milk and strongly enough market gardening (fresh flowers) were very limited to local areas before the railways. Took off hugely when the railways intentionally set up in direct competition to the canals.\n
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          Canals survived for a while moving the slower stuff. But started needing to redesign to support bigger and more boats faster. Before finally closing down.\n
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          The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
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    As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          If the makers of railways insisted that all current users agents had to work on them without adaption. Many of the advantages would no longer be there.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Replace not upgrade.\n
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    Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
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    Canals built a huge industry allowing manufacturers to ship goods to cities while shipping resources from the mines and farms etc.\n
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    But industries like meat fish milk and strongly enough market gardening (fresh flowers) were very limited to local areas before the railways. Took off hugely when the railways intentionally set up in direct competition to the canals.\n
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    Canals survived for a while moving the slower stuff. But started needing to redesign to support bigger and more boats faster. Before finally closing down.\n
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    The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
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    Passenger rail really was not a big thing untill about the 1920s.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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          Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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    Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    Railways were very much a replacement for the to slow canal system.\n
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    But industries like meat fish milk and strongly enough market gardening (fresh flowers) were very limited to local areas before the railways. Took off hugely when the railways intentionally set up in direct competition to the canals.\n
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    The UK and most of Europe rebuilt/renovated them as a leasure activity from the 1950s. But most of the late 1800 to early 1900s railways vcompanies actually worked to replace and put canal companies out of business.\n
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          Lol. Learn your history.\n
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          In the UK railways very much were a replacement for canals.\n
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          Both being built to transport good accross the nation.
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          But as a user of a barge if you needed wanted to use railways. Because they are faster. It would be the barge maker or a new train maker you would look at. Not the railway.\n
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          Just like canals X11 still exists. And is still being developed. It has its limitations but some applications are choosing not to port. Because like barge makers. They simply do not see the need. Or merit.\n
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          As railways were a replacement for canals.\n
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          It was not the railways that broke the barge. But the companies expecting to gain the advantages without adapting there transportation.\n
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          Replace not upgrade.\n
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          PS i still use canals. Bur do not blame the raIlway for not fitting my boat.
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    Yeah sorry. But when you look at the events building europeen railways. More so in the UK as we had a huge canal system built in a few decades. But most of Europe denser areas.\n
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    You seem to use the word censor a lot. For someone who who clearly has no idea what freedom of speech means.\n
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