GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@nyan@lemmy.cafe/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.148
Profiled on
Token
b05671

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.77 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2522 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2661 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2612 …}
  +slug: "Dolphin-pattern-by-CrossStitching4Joy"
  +title: "Dolphin pattern by CrossStitching4Joy"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0df279d-0997-4a73-ad5d-8cd03631c425.jpeg"
  +body: "For some reason the person who made the pattern decided the letter D must be in this four different ways for the key. This one was very tricky regardless and I can’t wait to give it to my mother."
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 8
  +favouriteCount: 55
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1725908451 {#2695
    date: 2024-09-09 21:00:51.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2700 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2703 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2705 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2707 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2709 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2711 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2201
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2207 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2212 …}
      +body: "As someone who’s dabbled in pixel art, I can’t help thinking that it should be possible to reduce the number of colours and stray singleton stitches in that one without degrading the image by much, if at all. It would be a bear to get 100% right according to the pattern. Nice job!"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705503238 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@DrPop@lemmy.world"
        "@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      -id: 316768
      -bodyTs: "'100':48 'accord':50 'art':8 'bear':45 'colour':24 'dabbl':5 'degrad':33 'get':47 'help':12 'imag':35 'job':55 'much':37 'nice':54 'number':22 'one':31 'pattern':53 'pixel':7 'possibl':18 'reduc':20 'right':49 'singleton':27 'someon':2 'stitch':28 'stray':26 'think':13 'without':32 'would':42"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.cafe/comment/4045904"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705503238 {#2202
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 316768
    }
  ]
  -id: 31057
  -titleTs: "'crossstitching4joy':4 'dolphin':1 'pattern':2"
  -bodyTs: "'d':13 'decid':10 'differ':19 'four':18 'give':36 'key':23 'letter':12 'made':7 'mother':40 'must':14 'one':25 'pattern':9 'person':5 'reason':3 'regardless':29 'tricki':28 'wait':34 'way':20"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705527026
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10799771"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705440626 {#2681
    date: 2024-01-16 22:30:26.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2522 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2661 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2612 …}
  +slug: "Dolphin-pattern-by-CrossStitching4Joy"
  +title: "Dolphin pattern by CrossStitching4Joy"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0df279d-0997-4a73-ad5d-8cd03631c425.jpeg"
  +body: "For some reason the person who made the pattern decided the letter D must be in this four different ways for the key. This one was very tricky regardless and I can’t wait to give it to my mother."
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 8
  +favouriteCount: 55
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1725908451 {#2695
    date: 2024-09-09 21:00:51.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2700 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2703 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2705 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2707 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2709 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2711 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2201
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2207 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2212 …}
      +body: "As someone who’s dabbled in pixel art, I can’t help thinking that it should be possible to reduce the number of colours and stray singleton stitches in that one without degrading the image by much, if at all. It would be a bear to get 100% right according to the pattern. Nice job!"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705503238 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@DrPop@lemmy.world"
        "@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      -id: 316768
      -bodyTs: "'100':48 'accord':50 'art':8 'bear':45 'colour':24 'dabbl':5 'degrad':33 'get':47 'help':12 'imag':35 'job':55 'much':37 'nice':54 'number':22 'one':31 'pattern':53 'pixel':7 'possibl':18 'reduc':20 'right':49 'singleton':27 'someon':2 'stitch':28 'stray':26 'think':13 'without':32 'would':42"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.cafe/comment/4045904"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705503238 {#2202
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 316768
    }
  ]
  -id: 31057
  -titleTs: "'crossstitching4joy':4 'dolphin':1 'pattern':2"
  -bodyTs: "'d':13 'decid':10 'differ':19 'four':18 'give':36 'key':23 'letter':12 'made':7 'mother':40 'must':14 'one':25 'pattern':9 'person':5 'reason':3 'regardless':29 'tricki':28 'wait':34 'way':20"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705527026
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10799771"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705440626 {#2681
    date: 2024-01-16 22:30:26.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2522 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2661 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2612 …}
  +slug: "Dolphin-pattern-by-CrossStitching4Joy"
  +title: "Dolphin pattern by CrossStitching4Joy"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0df279d-0997-4a73-ad5d-8cd03631c425.jpeg"
  +body: "For some reason the person who made the pattern decided the letter D must be in this four different ways for the key. This one was very tricky regardless and I can’t wait to give it to my mother."
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 8
  +favouriteCount: 55
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1725908451 {#2695
    date: 2024-09-09 21:00:51.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2700 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2703 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2705 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2707 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2709 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2711 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2201
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2207 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2212 …}
      +body: "As someone who’s dabbled in pixel art, I can’t help thinking that it should be possible to reduce the number of colours and stray singleton stitches in that one without degrading the image by much, if at all. It would be a bear to get 100% right according to the pattern. Nice job!"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705503238 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@DrPop@lemmy.world"
        "@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      -id: 316768
      -bodyTs: "'100':48 'accord':50 'art':8 'bear':45 'colour':24 'dabbl':5 'degrad':33 'get':47 'help':12 'imag':35 'job':55 'much':37 'nice':54 'number':22 'one':31 'pattern':53 'pixel':7 'possibl':18 'reduc':20 'right':49 'singleton':27 'someon':2 'stitch':28 'stray':26 'think':13 'without':32 'would':42"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.cafe/comment/4045904"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705503238 {#2202
        date: 2024-01-17 15:53:58.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 316768
    }
  ]
  -id: 31057
  -titleTs: "'crossstitching4joy':4 'dolphin':1 'pattern':2"
  -bodyTs: "'d':13 'decid':10 'differ':19 'four':18 'give':36 'key':23 'letter':12 'made':7 'mother':40 'must':14 'one':25 'pattern':9 'person':5 'reason':3 'regardless':29 'tricki':28 'wait':34 'way':20"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705527026
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10799771"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705440626 {#2681
    date: 2024-01-16 22:30:26.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2201
  +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2210
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2522 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2203 …}
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2661 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2612 …}
    +slug: "Dolphin-pattern-by-CrossStitching4Joy"
    +title: "Dolphin pattern by CrossStitching4Joy"
    +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0df279d-0997-4a73-ad5d-8cd03631c425.jpeg"
    +body: "For some reason the person who made the pattern decided the letter D must be in this four different ways for the key. This one was very tricky regardless and I can’t wait to give it to my mother."
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 8
    +favouriteCount: 55
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1725908451 {#2695
      date: 2024-09-09 21:00:51.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2700 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2703 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2705 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2707 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2709 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2711 …}
    +children: [
      App\Entity\EntryComment {#2201}
    ]
    -id: 31057
    -titleTs: "'crossstitching4joy':4 'dolphin':1 'pattern':2"
    -bodyTs: "'d':13 'decid':10 'differ':19 'four':18 'give':36 'key':23 'letter':12 'made':7 'mother':40 'must':14 'one':25 'pattern':9 'person':5 'reason':3 'regardless':29 'tricki':28 'wait':34 'way':20"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1705527026
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10799771"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705440626 {#2681
      date: 2024-01-16 22:30:26.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
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    You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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    The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
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    Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
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    Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
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    Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
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    If some proprietary app is essential to your workflow and is irreplaceable, consider running it in a VM, keeping a Windows partition for it or try and run it through Wine (this is advanced stuff though).\n
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    Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
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    Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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    \n
    [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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    Okay, now to the most important questions\n
    \n
    Which distro should I use?\n
    ==========================\n
    \n
    There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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    \n
    These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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    - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
    - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
    - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
    - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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    So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
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    - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
    - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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    Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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    This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
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    - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
    - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
    - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
    - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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    Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
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    You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
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    Shoud I learn the command line?\n
    -------------------------------\n
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    **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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    I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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    **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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    Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
    ------------------------------------\n
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    **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
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    **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
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    Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
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    **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
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    Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
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    **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    Should I follow The Way?\n
    ------------------------\n
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    **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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    Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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        They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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        Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "
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        Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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        TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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    You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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    The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
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    Preamble\n
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    Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
    -------------------------------------\n
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    Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
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    Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
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    If some proprietary app is essential to your workflow and is irreplaceable, consider running it in a VM, keeping a Windows partition for it or try and run it through Wine (this is advanced stuff though).\n
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    Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
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    Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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    What are the best resources out there?\n
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    [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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    Okay, now to the most important questions\n
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    Which distro should I use?\n
    ==========================\n
    \n
    There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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    Beginner distros\n
    ----------------\n
    \n
    These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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    - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
    - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
    - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
    - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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    Advanced distros\n
    ----------------\n
    \n
    So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
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    - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
    - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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    Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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    \n
    This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
    \n
    - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
    - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
    - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
    - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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    Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
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    You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
    \n
    Shoud I learn the command line?\n
    -------------------------------\n
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    **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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    I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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    **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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    Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
    ------------------------------------\n
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    **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
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    **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
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    Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
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    **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
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    Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
    --------------------------------------------------\n
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    **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    Should I follow The Way?\n
    ------------------------\n
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    **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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    Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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        They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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        Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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        TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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    You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
    \n
    The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
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    Preamble\n
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    \n
    Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
    -------------------------------------\n
    \n
    Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
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    Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
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    If some proprietary app is essential to your workflow and is irreplaceable, consider running it in a VM, keeping a Windows partition for it or try and run it through Wine (this is advanced stuff though).\n
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    Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
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    Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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    What are the best resources out there?\n
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    [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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    Okay, now to the most important questions\n
    \n
    Which distro should I use?\n
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    \n
    There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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    Beginner distros\n
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    \n
    These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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    - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
    - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
    - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
    - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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    Advanced distros\n
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    \n
    So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
    \n
    - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
    - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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    Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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    \n
    This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
    \n
    - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
    - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
    - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
    - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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    Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
    ============================================================================================\n
    \n
    You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
    \n
    Shoud I learn the command line?\n
    -------------------------------\n
    \n
    **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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    I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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    \n
    **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
    \n
    Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
    ------------------------------------\n
    \n
    **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
    -----------------------------------------\n
    \n
    **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
    \n
    Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
    ------------------------------------------\n
    \n
    **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
    \n
    Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
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    **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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    **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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    Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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        They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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        Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "
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        Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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        TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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      You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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      Okay, now to the most important questions\n
      \n
      Which distro should I use?\n
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      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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      - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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      ----------------\n
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      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
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      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
      \n
      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
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      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
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      Shoud I learn the command line?\n
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      **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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      I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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      Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
      ------------------------------------\n
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      **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
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      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
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      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
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      **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
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      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
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      **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I follow The Way?\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
      \n
      Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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          TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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    They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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    Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "
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      You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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      The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
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      Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
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      Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
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      Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
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      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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      \n
      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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      Okay, now to the most important questions\n
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      Which distro should I use?\n
      ==========================\n
      \n
      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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      Beginner distros\n
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      \n
      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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      - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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      Advanced distros\n
      ----------------\n
      \n
      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
      \n
      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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      \n
      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
      \n
      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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      Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
      ============================================================================================\n
      \n
      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
      \n
      Shoud I learn the command line?\n
      -------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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      I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------\n
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      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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      Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
      ------------------------------------\n
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      **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
      -----------------------------------------\n
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      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
      \n
      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
      ------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
      \n
      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
      --------------------------------------------------\n
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      **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I follow The Way?\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
      \n
      Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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    They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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    Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "
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      You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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      The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
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      Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
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      Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
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      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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      Okay, now to the most important questions\n
      \n
      Which distro should I use?\n
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      \n
      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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      Beginner distros\n
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      \n
      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
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      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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      \n
      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
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      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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      Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
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      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
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      Shoud I learn the command line?\n
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      **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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      I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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      Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
      ------------------------------------\n
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      **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
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      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
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      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
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      **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
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      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
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      Should I follow The Way?\n
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      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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      Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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          Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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          TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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    They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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    Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "
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      You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
      \n
      The aim of this guide is to provide simple, clear information to ease your transition as a beginner. This is not a be-all-end-all guide nor an advanced guide.\n
      \n
      Preamble\n
      ========\n
      \n
      Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
      -------------------------------------\n
      \n
      Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
      \n
      Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      If some proprietary app is essential to your workflow and is irreplaceable, consider running it in a VM, keeping a Windows partition for it or try and run it through Wine (this is advanced stuff though).\n
      \n
      Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
      ----------------------------------------\n
      \n
      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
      \n
      What are the best resources out there?\n
      --------------------------------------\n
      \n
      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
      \n
      Okay, now to the most important questions\n
      \n
      Which distro should I use?\n
      ==========================\n
      \n
      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
      \n
      Beginner distros\n
      ----------------\n
      \n
      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
      \n
      - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
      \n
      Advanced distros\n
      ----------------\n
      \n
      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
      \n
      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
      \n
      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
      =======================================\n
      \n
      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
      \n
      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
      \n
      Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
      ============================================================================================\n
      \n
      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
      \n
      Shoud I learn the command line?\n
      -------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
      \n
      I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
      \n
      Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
      ------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
      \n
      Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
      -----------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
      \n
      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
      ------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
      \n
      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
      --------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
      \n
      Should I follow The Way?\n
      ------------------------\n
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      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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      Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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          They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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    Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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    TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers *if* any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.
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      You’re about to take your first steps in the wonderful world of Linux, but you’re overwhelmed by the amount of choices? Welcome to this (I hope) very simple guide :)\n
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      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
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      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
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      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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      Advanced distros\n
      ----------------\n
      \n
      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
      \n
      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
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      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
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      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
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      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
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      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
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      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
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      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
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      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
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      Should I follow The Way?\n
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      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
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          They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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    Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.\n
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      Make sure your hardware is compatible\n
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      Nowadays most relatively recent hardware works perfectly fine on Linux, but there are some edge cases still. If you don’t use niche hardware and your wifi card is supported, chances are you’re golden. Please note that nVidia is a bad faith player in the Linux world, so if you have a GeForce GPU, expect some trouble.\n
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      Make sure your favourite apps are either available or have a good replacement on Linux\n
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      \n
      If some proprietary app is essential to your workflow and is irreplaceable, consider running it in a VM, keeping a Windows partition for it or try and run it through Wine (this is advanced stuff though).\n
      \n
      Be aware that Linux is not Windows/MacOS\n
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      \n
      Things work differently, and this is normal. You will probably struggle at the beginning while adjusting to a new paradigm. You may have to troubleshoot some things. You may break some things in the process. You will probably get frustrated at some point or another. It’s okay. You’re learning something new, and it can be hard to shed old habits forged by years on another system.\n
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      What are the best resources out there?\n
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      \n
      [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/) without a doubt. Despite being heavily tied to Arch, most of its content is readily usable to troubleshoot most modern distros, as the building blocks (Kernel, systemd, core system apps, XOrg/Wayland, your DE of choice etc.) are the same.\n
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      Okay, now to the most important questions\n
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      Which distro should I use?\n
      ==========================\n
      \n
      There are [a metric fuckload (or 1.112 imperial fucktons)](https://distrowatch.com/) of distros out there, but these can be broadly put into two main categories: general-purpose distros and niche-distros. I advise you to keep it as mainstream as possible for your first steps. A distro with a large user base, backed by a large community of maintainers and aimed at being as fuss-free as possible is always better than a one-person effort tailored to a specific use-case.\n
      \n
      Beginner distros\n
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      \n
      These are great distros for beginners as well as more advanced users who just want to have a system that needs almost no configuration out of the box, just works and stays out of the way.\n
      \n
      - **Fedora Workstation**: Clean, sensible, modern and very up to date and should work out of the box for most hardware. Despite the community’s rightful backlash against Red Hat, this is still a great distro for beginners and advanced users. Even Linus Torvalds himself favors Fedora as a daily driver. Fedora is the flagship distro for the Gnome Desktop Environment.\n
      - **Linux Mint**: While I haven’t used it myself, there is a lot of praise here for this Ubuntu derivative from beginners and advanced users alike. Its main goals are ease of use and being the flagship distro for the Cinnamon DE, which is very similar to Windows and may ease the transition for new users.\n
      - **Pop!_OS**: Backed by hardware Linux vendor System76, this Ubuntu derivative shares some of the issues with its infamous parent, but its heavily modified Gnome DE looks and feels nice.\n
      - **I do not recommend Ubuntu nor Manjaro**: despite being marketed as “beginner friendly distros”, and despite often running perfectly fine, these two have major issues in management, packaging policies or philosophy that might make your life as a beginner difficult. Ubuntu suffers from it’s parent company’s goal to make Ubuntu kinda-Linux-but-not-really, and there are some great derivatives like the ones cited above that work equally well but revert some of the most controversial decisions made by Canonical. Manjaro might seem appealing as a “beginner-friendly” Arch derivative and some of its tools are fantastic to remove some configuration burden, but ongoing mismanagement issues and the fact that it needs regular maintenance as updates often break stuff prevent it from being a truly beginner distro.\n
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      Advanced distros\n
      ----------------\n
      \n
      So you’ve taken your first steps, you’re starting to be really comfortable with Linux, and you want to get your hands dirty and really learn what’s happening under the surface? **These should not be installed as your first distro**, unless you like extremely steep learning curves and being overwhelmed.\n
      \n
      - **Debian**: as one of the oldest, still maintained distros and the granddaddy of probably half of the distros out there, Debian is built like a tank. A very stringent policy of focusing on bug and security fixes over new features makes Debian extremely stable and predictable, but it can also feel a bit outdated. Still a rock-solid experience, with a lot to tinker with despite very sensible defaults. It is an incredible learning tool and is as “Standard Linux” as can be.\n
      - **Arch**: The opposite of Debian in philosophy, packages often come to Arch almost as soon as the source code is released. Expect a lot of manual installation and configuration, daily updates, and regularly fixing stuff. An incredible learning tool too, that will make you intimate with the inner workings of Linux.\n
      \n
      Which Desktop Environment should I use?\n
      =======================================\n
      \n
      This is entirely up to you, and depends on your preferences.\n
      \n
      - **Gnome**: Full featured yet very minimalist, Gnome is a great DE that eschews the traditional Desktop metaphor. Like MacOS, out of the box, it provides the strongly opinionated developers’ vision of a user experience. Fortunately, unlike MacOS, there are [thousands of extensions](https://extensions.gnome.org/) to tweak and extend the looks and behaviour of the DE. Dash-to-dock or Dash-to-panel are great if you want a more MacOS-like or Windows-like experience, Blur My Shell is great if you love blurry transparent things, Appindicator is a must, and everything else is up to you. Gnome’s development cycle is highly regular and all core components and apps follow the same release schedule, which explains why a lot of distros choose it as their default DE.\n
      - **KDE Plasma**: Full featured and maximalist, Plasma does not cater to a single design philosophy, is very flexible and can be tweaked almost ad infinitum. This may be an advantage for people who like to spend hours making the perfect environment, or a disadvantage as the possibilities can be overwhelming, and the added complexity may compromise stability, bugginess or completeness. There is no single development cycle for core components and apps, which makes it a bit more difficult for distro maintainers.\n
      - **Cinnamon**: If you want the most “windows-like” experience out of the box, Cinnamon is great. As I have no experience with it, I’ll let the Mint users praise it in the comments :D\n
      - **Lightweight DEs for old or underpowered machines**: The likes of XFCE, LXDE, LXQt are great if you want to ressurect an old machine, but lack the bells and whistles of the aforementioned DEs.\n
      \n
      Philosophical questions, or “I heard conflicting stuff over the Internet and now I’m scared”\n
      ============================================================================================\n
      \n
      You’ve done your research, you’re almost ready to take the plunge, you even read a lot of stuff on this very community, but people seem very passionately for or against stuff. What should you do?\n
      \n
      Shoud I learn the command line?\n
      -------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes, eventually**. To be honest, nowadays a lot of things can be configured on the fly graphically, through your DE’s settings. But sometimes, it’s much more efficient to work on the command line, and sometimes it’s the only way to fix something. It’s not that difficult, and you can be reasonably productive by understanding just about a dozen very simple commands.\n
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      I have a very old laptop/desktop, should I use a distro from this era?\n
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      **Noooo!**. Contrary to Windows and MacOS which only work correctly on period-correct computers, Linux runs perfectly well on any hardware from the last 20 to 30 years. You will not gain performance by using an old distro, but you will gain hundreds of critical security flaws that have been since corrected. If you need to squeeze performance out of an old computer, use a lightweight graphical environment or repurpose it as a headless home server.\n
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      Should I be concerned about systemd?\n
      ------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **No**. In short, systemd is fine and all major distros have switched to systemd years ago. Even the extremely cautious people behind Debian have used systemd as default since 2015. Not wanting to use systemd is a niche more rooted in philosophical rather than practical or technical reasons, and leads to much deeper issues than you should concern yourself with as a beginner. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
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      Should I be concerned about XOrg/Wayland?\n
      -----------------------------------------\n
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      **Yes and No, but mostly No**. First off, most distros install both Wayland and XOrg by default, so if one is not satisfying to you, try the other. Remember in the preamble when I said nVidia was a bad actor? Well, most of people’s complaints about Wayland are because of nVidia and their shitty drivers, so GeForce users should stay on XOrg for now. But like it or not, XOrg is dead and unmaintained, and Wayland is the present and future. XOrg did too many things, carried too many features from the 80’s and 90’s and its codebase is a barely maintainable mess. Wayland solves that by being just a simple display protocol with a much smaller codebase, and offloading feature development to the compositors.\n
      \n
      Should I look for a gaming-focused distro?\n
      ------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **No**. General purpose distros are perfectly fine for gaming. You can install Steam, Lutris, Heroic, Itch etc. and use Proton just fine on almost anything. Even Debian. In short, yes, you can game on Linux, there are great tutorials on the internet.\n
      \n
      Should I be concerned about Flatpaks and/or Snaps?\n
      --------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      **Not really**. Flatpaks are great, and more and more developers package their apps directly in Flatpak format. As a rule of thumb, for user facing applications, if your app store gives you the choice between Flatpak and your native package manager version, choose the most recent version. Snaps however are a Canonical/Ubuntu thing, so as long as you avoid Ubuntu, its spins and its derivatives that still include Snaps, you should be fine. They tend to take a lot longer to startup than regular apps or Flatpaks, the snap store is proprietary, centralized and Canonical controls every part of it. If you’re fine with that, have fun. (Thanks @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml for the precisions)\n
      \n
      Should I follow The Way?\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      **Yes**. One does not speak unless one knows. You can take your helmet off in public tho.\n
      \n
      Feel free to help correct, expand, or simplify this guide :)
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          They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) *or* my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists *for the purpose they’re intended to serve*.\n
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          The difference isn’t all that noticeable, to be honest, or at least I’ve never found it so. If you’re using older hardware, you’re going to get an older “experience” anyway. The most user-visible kernel improvements tend to be improvements in hardware support, which is irrelevant if your hardware is already fully supported. However, I don’t do anything fancy with my machines—no full-disc encryption or the like. I usually don’t even need an initram to boot the system. So maybe you would notice something if your machines were more complicated.\n
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      Guys I truly don’t mean to spam the community but these are legit questions. Yesterday I posted about linux compatibility and computers and every single person gave me knowledge to use and you’re all awesome.\n
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          The difference isn’t all that noticeable, to be honest, or at least I’ve never found it so. If you’re using older hardware, you’re going to get an older “experience” anyway. The most user-visible kernel improvements tend to be improvements in hardware support, which is irrelevant if your hardware is already fully supported. However, I don’t do anything fancy with my machines—no full-disc encryption or the like. I usually don’t even need an initram to boot the system. So maybe you would notice something if your machines were more complicated.\n
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          You’re unlikely to have issues unless an entire *architecture* loses support from your distro, and if you’re running x86_64, that isn’t going to happen for a long, long time. I’ve never been in a position where I couldn’t compile a new workable kernel for an existing system out of Gentoo’s repositories. The only time I’ve ever needed to put an upgrade aside for a few months involved a machine’s video card losing driver support from nvidia—I needed a few spare hours to make sure there were no issues while over to nouveau before I could install a new kernel.\n
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details