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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      \n
      Rules:\n
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      - No spam posting.\n
      - Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.\n
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      - No trolling.\n
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      - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
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