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Response
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IP
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Token
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Security

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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12 
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13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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# Result Attributes Object
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      \n
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        Based on privacyguides [suggestion page](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/) itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.\n
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        Briar is only for Android AFAIK. Matrix/Element does offer E2EE chat/vid but, based on the page, it’s not recommended for long term sensitive use.\n
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    Additional Resources:\n
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    - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
    - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
    - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
    - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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