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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	0.99 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.05 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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          I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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      They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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    Any stories you’ve heard about websites enabling CF to survive DDoS were not on the free tier, guaranteed.\n
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      They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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    Any stories you’ve heard about websites enabling CF to survive DDoS were not on the free tier, guaranteed.\n
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            I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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            2. Cloudflare is centralised. The sidebar of this community states “A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.”, and Cloudflare is for sure a service you don’t control, and arguably you’re locked into it if you can’t access your stuff without it. Some people think Coudflare goes against the ethos of self-hosting.\n
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        They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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        Now obviously if their network is at capacity they would prioritise paying customers, but I’ve never heard of there being an issue with DDoS protection for free users. But I have heard stories of sites enabling Cloudflare while being DDoSed and it resolving the problem.
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      Any stories you’ve heard about websites enabling CF to survive DDoS were not on the free tier, guaranteed.\n
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      Please re-read the description for the free tier. Here’s what “DDoS protection” means on free tier:\n
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      Will they use some of their capacity to minimize the DDoS effects *for their infrastructure*? Sure, I mean they have to whether they like or not, since the DNS points at their servers. But will they keep the website going for Joe Freeloader? Don’t count on that. The terms are carefully worded to avoid promising anything of the sort.
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    They also say “Cloudflare DDoS protection secures websites and applications while ensuring the performance of legitimate traffic is not compromised.”, with a tick to indicate this is included in the Free tier.\n
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    You are honestly the first person I’ve heard complain about Cloudflare failing to protect against DDoS attacks. However, I have no doubt that *not* having Cloudflare, I would fare no better. So still seems worthwhile to me.
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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            I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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        They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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      Any stories you’ve heard about websites enabling CF to survive DDoS were not on the free tier, guaranteed.\n
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    They also say “Cloudflare DDoS protection secures websites and applications while ensuring the performance of legitimate traffic is not compromised.”, with a tick to indicate this is included in the Free tier.\n
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    You are honestly the first person I’ve heard complain about Cloudflare failing to protect against DDoS attacks. However, I have no doubt that *not* having Cloudflare, I would fare no better. So still seems worthwhile to me.
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        - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I read a comment on here some time ago where the person said they were using cloudflared to expose some of their self-hosted stuff to the Internet so they can access it remotely.\n
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      Any thoughts on why cloudflared is not a good idea? What alternatives would you suggest? How easy/difficult are they to setup?
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            I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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            2. Cloudflare is centralised. The sidebar of this community states “A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.”, and Cloudflare is for sure a service you don’t control, and arguably you’re locked into it if you can’t access your stuff without it. Some people think Coudflare goes against the ethos of self-hosting.\n
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            With that said, you’ll find several large lemmy instances (and many small ones) use cloudflare. While you’ll easily find people against its use, you’ll find many more people in the self-hosted community using it because it’s (typically) free and it works. If you want to use it, and you’re ok with the above, then go ahead.
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        They explicitly use free DDoS protection as a way to get you in the door, and upsell you on other things. Have you seen them “drop your tunnel like a hot potato”?\n
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        Now obviously if their network is at capacity they would prioritise paying customers, but I’ve never heard of there being an issue with DDoS protection for free users. But I have heard stories of sites enabling Cloudflare while being DDoSed and it resolving the problem.
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      Any stories you’ve heard about websites enabling CF to survive DDoS were not on the free tier, guaranteed.\n
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      Please re-read the description for the free tier. Here’s what “DDoS protection” means on free tier:\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    The first point is only when you use the tunnel function, right ?\n
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    Because I noticed, if use the tunnel function (hiding your private ip) the sites gets an Cloudflare certificate, but if just using it as DNS (without tunnel) the page has my certificate.
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        - No spam posting.\n
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        - No trolling.\n
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        - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    If you use DNS with proxy it still applies, you should get a Cloudflare certificate then. But yes, if you use Cloudflare as DNS only, then it should be direct. I believe you get none of the protection or benefits doing this, you’re just using them as a name server.\n
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    The Cloudflare benefits of bot detection, image caching, and other features all rely on the proxy setting.\n
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    Also if proxying is enabled, your server IP is hidden which helps stop people knowing how to attack your server (e.g. they won’t have an IP address to attempt to SSH into it). You don’t get this protection in DNS only mode either.\n
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        - No spam posting.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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        I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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      The first point is only when you use the tunnel function, right ?\n
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    If you use DNS with proxy it still applies, you should get a Cloudflare certificate then. But yes, if you use Cloudflare as DNS only, then it should be direct. I believe you get none of the protection or benefits doing this, you’re just using them as a name server.\n
    \n
    The Cloudflare benefits of bot detection, image caching, and other features all rely on the proxy setting.\n
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    Also if proxying is enabled, your server IP is hidden which helps stop people knowing how to attack your server (e.g. they won’t have an IP address to attempt to SSH into it). You don’t get this protection in DNS only mode either.\n
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        - No spam posting.\n
        - Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.\n
        - Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).\n
        - No trolling.\n
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        Resources:\n
        \n
        - [awesome-selfhosted software](https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted)\n
        - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I read a comment on here some time ago where the person said they were using cloudflared to expose some of their self-hosted stuff to the Internet so they can access it remotely.\n
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      The first point is only when you use the tunnel function, right ?\n
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    If you use DNS with proxy it still applies, you should get a Cloudflare certificate then. But yes, if you use Cloudflare as DNS only, then it should be direct. I believe you get none of the protection or benefits doing this, you’re just using them as a name server.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I read a comment on here some time ago where the person said they were using cloudflared to expose some of their self-hosted stuff to the Internet so they can access it remotely.\n
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      Any thoughts on why cloudflared is not a good idea? What alternatives would you suggest? How easy/difficult are they to setup?
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      I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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      2. Cloudflare is centralised. The sidebar of this community states “A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.”, and Cloudflare is for sure a service you don’t control, and arguably you’re locked into it if you can’t access your stuff without it. Some people think Coudflare goes against the ethos of self-hosting.\n
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    There’s a third point which is: Things in CloudFlare are publicly accessible, so if you don’t put a service on front for authentication and the service you’re exposing has no authentication, a weak password or a security issue, you’re exposing your server directly to the internet and bad actors can easily find it.\n
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    Which is why some services that I don’t want to have complicated passwords are only exposed via Tailscale, so only people inside the VPN can access them.
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        - No spam posting.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I read a comment on here some time ago where the person said they were using cloudflared to expose some of their self-hosted stuff to the Internet so they can access it remotely.\n
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      Any thoughts on why cloudflared is not a good idea? What alternatives would you suggest? How easy/difficult are they to setup?
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    I have a cloudflare tunnel setup for 1 service in my homelab and have it connecting to my reverse proxy so the data between cloudflare and my backend is encrypted separately. I get no malformed requests and no issues from cloudflare, even remote public IP data in the headers.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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        I think concerns come in two flavours:\n
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      I have a cloudflare tunnel setup for 1 service in my homelab and have it connecting to my reverse proxy so the data between cloudflare and my backend is encrypted separately. I get no malformed requests and no issues from cloudflare, even remote public IP data in the headers.\n
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    I’m not quite sure I get what you’re getting at. If you’re using Cloudflare (for more than just a nameserver), then the client’s browser is connecting to Cloudflare via a Cloudflare SSL certificate. Any password (or other data) submitted will be readable by Cloudflare because the encryption is only between the browser and Cloudflare. They then connect to your reverse proxy, which might have SSL or it might be unencrypted. That’s a second jump done by re-encrypting the data.\n
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    How does the reverse proxy help, when the browser is connecting to Cloudflare not to the reverse proxy?
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        - No spam posting.\n
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        - No trolling.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I read a comment on here some time ago where the person said they were using cloudflared to expose some of their self-hosted stuff to the Internet so they can access it remotely.\n
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      Any thoughts on why cloudflared is not a good idea? What alternatives would you suggest? How easy/difficult are they to setup?
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      I have a cloudflare tunnel setup for 1 service in my homelab and have it connecting to my reverse proxy so the data between cloudflare and my backend is encrypted separately. I get no malformed requests and no issues from cloudflare, even remote public IP data in the headers.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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        - No trolling.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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      I’m not quite sure I get what you’re getting at. If you’re using Cloudflare (for more than just a nameserver), then the client’s browser is connecting to Cloudflare via a Cloudflare SSL certificate. Any password (or other data) submitted will be readable by Cloudflare because the encryption is only between the browser and Cloudflare. They then connect to your reverse proxy, which might have SSL or it might be unencrypted. That’s a second jump done by re-encrypting the data.\n
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        - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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