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The really *really* sad thing is, Reddit could have done a half decent job and made a fair bit of money, but they decided on stupidity instead.\n
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Sure, it would have upset some people a bit, but... Not by anywhere *close* to the same degree.\n
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> Alright, we're sorry, but use of the API is going to have to start costing money for some kinds of uses.\n
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You'd probably want a free tier for 3rd party clients for users of specific account types. If the user is paying for Reddit Premium, maybe 3rd party clients don't get charged for API usage for that user account. Or if the user is a moderator for a given subreddit, API usage for that user on that subreddit is also free. With an API that the client can use to check the status of such things. If they were *smart*, they would also have a process for users with disabilities to have their accounts exempted from fees. That last one is hard, because you need a verification process, but it would get them a *lot* of good will.\n
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Again... This *shouldn't be hard*. And it would have turned into a viable revenue stream!\n
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Hell, flatly disclose that the 3rd party cost is 30% *more* than the average cost of using the standard client, to support the effort required to maintain the API. (Largely bullshit, but it makes those users *more* valuable than those that use the official client, while not being expensive enough to make it impossible for anyone to offer a 3rd party client at an even remotely sane cost.)\n
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Yes, this would have very sadly been the end of free 3rd party clients... But I for one would have been... Okay with paying a small amount per month/year through the app store for a client that didn't suck.\n
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Instead, Reddit decided that committing suicide was the better path forward.
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You'd probably want a free tier for 3rd party clients for users of specific account types. If the user is paying for Reddit Premium, maybe 3rd party clients don't get charged for API usage for that user account. Or if the user is a moderator for a given subreddit, API usage for that user on that subreddit is also free. With an API that the client can use to check the status of such things. If they were *smart*, they would also have a process for users with disabilities to have their accounts exempted from fees. That last one is hard, because you need a verification process, but it would get them a *lot* of good will.\n
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