GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one/t/8352/Chromium-vs-Brave/active

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
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1.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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}
0.00 ms (none)
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0.05 ms (none)
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
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0.00 ms (none)
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0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
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4
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
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Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    cross-posted from: [sh.itjust.works/post/5572424](https://sh.itjust.works/post/5572424)\n
    \n
    > This might have been discussed to death by now, unfortunately I couldn’t find any discussion on it on Lemmy. Though I would love to be corrected on that!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > **How does an always on incognito Chromium with uBlock Origin on [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode) (and other hardening/privacy settings enabled) compare to Brave (with e.g. [Privacy Guides’ recommended settings](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#brave)) with respect to security and privacy on Linux^[1]^?**\n
    > \n
    > Commonly heard [whataboutisms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism):\n
    > \n
    > - *“With the looming advent of Manifest v3, this discussion might not be very relevant for long.”* **I’m aware.**\n
    > - *“Just use Firefox/Librewolf or any other privacy-conscious browser that isn’t Chromium-based.”* **I already do, but some websites/platforms don’t play nice on non-Chromium-based browsers due to Google’s monopoly on the web. Sometimes I can afford to not use that website/platform, but unfortunately not always.**\n
    > - *“Brave’s [insert controversy] makes them unreliable to take services from.”* **Honestly, I think that if both solutions are as effective that a reason like this might be sufficient to tip the balance in favor of one. Because ultimately this all comes down to trust.**\n
    > - *"Just use Ungoogled Chromium.*" **Some more knowledgeable people than me [advice against it](https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/). Though, I’d say I’m open to hear different opinions on this as long as they’re somewhat sophisticated**.\n
    > - *“Just use [insert another Chromium-based browser].”* **If it has merits beyond Brave and Chromium with respect to security and privacy, I’ll consider it.**\n
    > \n
    > Thanks in advance!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > 1. I can be more specific about which distro I prefer using, but I don’t think it matters. I might be wrong though*.
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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3 DENIED edit
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    +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
    +title: "privacyguides"
    +description: """
      *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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    cross-posted from: [sh.itjust.works/post/5572424](https://sh.itjust.works/post/5572424)\n
    \n
    > This might have been discussed to death by now, unfortunately I couldn’t find any discussion on it on Lemmy. Though I would love to be corrected on that!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > **How does an always on incognito Chromium with uBlock Origin on [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode) (and other hardening/privacy settings enabled) compare to Brave (with e.g. [Privacy Guides’ recommended settings](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#brave)) with respect to security and privacy on Linux^[1]^?**\n
    > \n
    > Commonly heard [whataboutisms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism):\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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      > - *"Just use Ungoogled Chromium.*" **Some more knowledgeable people than me [advice against it](https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/). Though, I’d say I’m open to hear different opinions on this as long as they’re somewhat sophisticated**.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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      I have only seen people saying this, but have never come across such a website that does not work properly on Firefox.\n
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    - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
    - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
    - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
    - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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