Symfony Profiler

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listener	Duration	Response
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.08 ms	(none)
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#	Voter class
1	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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    Archive: [archive.md/oybyL](https://archive.md/oybyL)
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    \n
    Archive: [archive.md/oybyL](https://archive.md/oybyL)
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    \n
    Archive: [archive.md/oybyL](https://archive.md/oybyL)
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    The votes are public. Kbin displays them right in the UI. Lemmy semi-hides it, but it’s never been designed to be private in any way.\n
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      Archive: [archive.md/oybyL](https://archive.md/oybyL)
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    Changing instance won’t do shit if that’s a concern to you. As an admin I can see them even if my instance isn’t involved with the post at all:\n
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      \n
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    Changing instance won’t do shit if that’s a concern to you. As an admin I can see them even if my instance isn’t involved with the post at all:\n
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    Hello y’all!\n
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        It would be if it wasn’t for NVIDIA, as usual. On Intel/AMD, you assign the seats, the displays light up and you’re good to go, pretty much works out of the box, especially on Wayland.\n
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    Hello y’all!\n
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    And it all ties into the whole targeted advertising, where they also make sure very few people get the bad ad, and tries to target people they think may be more susceptible to these kinds of tactics. Depending on the amount of interactivity allowed, the ad can even display two different things if it deems you too savvy to fall for it.\n
    \n
    It’s basically unescapable unless you only use apps without ads, or pay for the ad-free versions.\n
    \n
    The whole advertising industry is sketchy, more news at 10.
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    It’s basically unescapable unless you only use apps without ads, or pay for the ad-free versions.\n
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    The whole advertising industry is sketchy, more news at 10.
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    It’s basically unescapable unless you only use apps without ads, or pay for the ad-free versions.\n
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    Original dislike:\n
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    \n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
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    \n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "object": {\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">      { ... },\n
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    ```\n
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    The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
    \n
    I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
    \n
    I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
    """
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        \n
        A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
        """
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    Original dislike:\n
    \n
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    ```\n
    \n
    Undo of Dislike:\n
    \n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "to": [\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "type": "Announce",\n
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    </span>\n
    ```\n
    \n
    The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
    \n
    I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
    \n
    I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
    """
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        Internally it’s even stored as a vote of either +1 or -1, so sending an undislike of a like probably also results in the vote’s removal. Lemmy just sums up all the votes and you have the score.\n
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        A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
        """
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  +body: """
    Original dislike:\n
    \n
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    \n
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    ```\n
    \n
    Undo of Dislike:\n
    \n
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    The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
    \n
    I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
    \n
    I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
    """
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        Internally it’s even stored as a vote of either +1 or -1, so sending an undislike of a like probably also results in the vote’s removal. Lemmy just sums up all the votes and you have the score.\n
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        A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
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    +title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
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    +body: """
      Original dislike:\n
      \n
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      \n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      { ... },\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "type": "Announce",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
      </span>\n
      ```\n
      \n
      Undo of Dislike:\n
      \n
      ```\n
      \n
      <span style="color:#323232;">{\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "to": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  ],\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "object": {\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "@context": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      { ... },\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    ],\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "object": {\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "type": "Like",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    },\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "type": "Undo",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "audience": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "type": "Announce",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/undo/feedfdca-3392-4f7b-a3ce-2306d8981c5c"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
      </span>\n
      ```\n
      \n
      The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
      \n
      I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
      \n
      I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
      """
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    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704638932 {#3148
      date: 2024-01-07 15:48:52.0 +01:00
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  +body: """
    Internally it’s even stored as a vote of either +1 or -1, so sending an undislike of a like probably also results in the vote’s removal. Lemmy just sums up all the votes and you have the score.\n
    \n
    A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
    """
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    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3189 …}
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    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3089 …}
    +slug: "Resolved-Lemmy-sends-out-an-Undo-of-a-Dislike-as"
    +title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      Original dislike:\n
      \n
      ```\n
      \n
      <span style="color:#323232;">{\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "to": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "@context": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      { ... },\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">        ...\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "type": "Dislike",\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "cc": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  ],\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "type": "Announce",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "id": "https://lemmy.ml/activities/announce/dislike/6896b8ce-026d-463a-a223-ec1a1d444e5c"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
      </span>\n
      ```\n
      \n
      Undo of Dislike:\n
      \n
      ```\n
      \n
      <span style="color:#323232;">{\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "actor": "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "to": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  ],\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "object": {\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/undo/a9377c0b-074c-41de-ba99-51eeca323810",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "@context": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "https://w3id.org/security/v1",\n
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      ```\n
      \n
      The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
      \n
      I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
      \n
      I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
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    Internally it’s even stored as a vote of either +1 or -1, so sending an undislike of a like probably also results in the vote’s removal. Lemmy just sums up all the votes and you have the score.\n
    \n
    A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
    """
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    +title: "(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like"
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    +body: """
      Original dislike:\n
      \n
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      \n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">}\n
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      ```\n
      \n
      Undo of Dislike:\n
      \n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">  "to": [\n
      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">    "object": {\n
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      </span><span style="color:#323232;">      "object": "https://midwest.social/post/7242862",\n
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      ```\n
      \n
      The original Dislike activity ([endlesstalk.org/…/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/dislike/e1f82f6a-d49b-4dab-b444-36c382f13c5a)) has a record at endlesstalk.org, but the Like object’s activity that’s been undone doesn’t ([endlesstalk.org/…/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f3…](https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/1f0b6132-547e-4fb5-8313-6f7b7f31be6b) just returns ‘No record found’)\n
      \n
      I got the same results when I tried this from lemmy.world (but I thought I’d try again from a 0.19 instance)\n
      \n
      I found some references to this at the GitHub, but they were issues that were closed off as being fixed, so I don’t know what the situation is with this now.
      """
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    Internally it’s even stored as a vote of either +1 or -1, so sending an undislike of a like probably also results in the vote’s removal. Lemmy just sums up all the votes and you have the score.\n
    \n
    A like and a dislike activity are also contradictory, so even if you don’t unlike something, if you send a dislike it replaces the like as well.
    """
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1528 …}
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  +slug: "Can-I-install-Ubuntu-18-software-on-Ubuntu-22-04-Technically"
  +title: "Can I install Ubuntu 18 software on Ubuntu 22.04? (Technically Linux Mint 21.3)"
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  +body: """
    Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
    \n
    For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
    \n
    The instructions from the course material say that only Ubuntu 18 would work, though [the ROS wiki says Ubuntu 20.04 is the target](https://wiki.ros.org/noetic). Either way, it doesn’t seem to be available for Ubuntu 22.04 and therefore Linux Mint 21, which is what I’m running.\n
    \n
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      Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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      For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
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      Edit: thank you all for the great suggestions! I got stuck on an unrelated problem (ran out of storage space) but I’m sure your suggestions will work once I fix that. Forgive me for not replying individually, you’re all awesome and I don’t have anything to add other than “thank you” :)
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          Install from source is fairly likely to work: [wiki.ros.org/noetic/Installation/Source](https://wiki.ros.org/noetic/Installation/Source)\n
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        It’s not even always necessarily about trust, but risk management as well. I’ve definitely coded a crash handler that exposed my database credentials in it. There’s also the network aspect of it: your ISP/job/coffee shop can see the DNS request and TLS server name from the telemetry ping. That can be used to track you, or maybe you trigger some firewall alarm at work because of the ping.\n
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    Keep in mind, defederation is bidirectional. You can end up on an instance that doesn’t defederate anybody but is being defederated by some major instances and end up worse off. Also, communities are bound to an instance so even if your instance doesn’t defederate with another, the instance that hosts the community might, which also doesn’t solve anything.\n
    \n
    Also lemmy.ml had to restore from backup monday because postgres shat itself, so if the post is from monday or around, it’s possible it was simply lost due to the technical problems.\n
    \n
    There’s also some federation problems with 0.19.0 and 0.19.1, so it’s possible it’s been attempted to be delivered to lemmy.ml but failed due to load or whatever.\n
    \n
    You didn’t give any details or examples so we can only speculate. We troubleshoot federation by establishing patterns, like from what instance are the missing comments from, what instance hosts the community.\n
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    Addendum: I’ve also been experiencing occasional ghost posts, and I’m on my own instance, so there might be some stuff going on that’s unrelated, because I sure didn’t do anything. If they were deleted or retracted I would see them because I’m admin, I see everything.
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    Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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    Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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    Furthermore, I still see the post when I go looking - and there has been a bit of discussion about it.\n
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    So my questions:\n
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    (a) Can a post be removed from a specific federated instance without being removed from the original instance? (b) Is there an appeal process for removed posts? I’m sorry that the guy got all butthurt, but my post was sincere, measured, and (I think) reasonable. If it offended someone, they should discuss it.
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        Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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        If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).\n
        \n
        There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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        I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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        - As a user, you own the post, so you’re allowed to delete it no matter what. That always federate.\n
        - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
        - An admin can nominate any user from the same instance to moderate any of its communities, local or remote. That authority also ends at that instance. In theory it should work for remote users too, but then it’d be hard to be from lemmy.ml and moderate lemmy.world’s view of a community on lemmy.ca.\n
        - The instance that owns the community can also do whatever they want even if the post originated from elsewhere, because they own the community. That federates out.\n
        - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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        From those you can derive what would happen under any scenario involving any combinations of instances.
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        (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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        Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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        (b) You have to go appeal to lemmy.world. Each instance have its own independent appeal process.\n
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        That’s the beauty of the fediverse: instances can all have their rules to tailor the experience to their users, and it doesn’t have to affect the entire fediverse. Other instances linked to lemmy.ca can still see and interact with your post just fine, just not lemmy.world.
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    Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
    \n
    Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
    \n
    Furthermore, I still see the post when I go looking - and there has been a bit of discussion about it.\n
    \n
    So my questions:\n
    \n
    (a) Can a post be removed from a specific federated instance without being removed from the original instance? (b) Is there an appeal process for removed posts? I’m sorry that the guy got all butthurt, but my post was sincere, measured, and (I think) reasonable. If it offended someone, they should discuss it.
    """
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        Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
        \n
        If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).\n
        \n
        There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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        I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
        \n
        - As a user, you own the post, so you’re allowed to delete it no matter what. That always federate.\n
        - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
        - An admin can nominate any user from the same instance to moderate any of its communities, local or remote. That authority also ends at that instance. In theory it should work for remote users too, but then it’d be hard to be from lemmy.ml and moderate lemmy.world’s view of a community on lemmy.ca.\n
        - The instance that owns the community can also do whatever they want even if the post originated from elsewhere, because they own the community. That federates out.\n
        - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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        (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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        Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1618
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    Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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    Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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    Furthermore, I still see the post when I go looking - and there has been a bit of discussion about it.\n
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        Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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        There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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        I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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        - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
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        (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
        \n
        Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
      \n
      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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      Furthermore, I still see the post when I go looking - and there has been a bit of discussion about it.\n
      \n
      So my questions:\n
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      (a) Can a post be removed from a specific federated instance without being removed from the original instance? (b) Is there an appeal process for removed posts? I’m sorry that the guy got all butthurt, but my post was sincere, measured, and (I think) reasonable. If it offended someone, they should discuss it.
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          I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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          - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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          From those you can derive what would happen under any scenario involving any combinations of instances.
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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    Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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    If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).\n
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    There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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          I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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          - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
          \n
          Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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          (b) You have to go appeal to lemmy.world. Each instance have its own independent appeal process.\n
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    Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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          I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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          - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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          Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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          (b) You have to go appeal to lemmy.world. Each instance have its own independent appeal process.\n
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    Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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    If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).\n
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    There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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          Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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          Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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    I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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    - As a user, you own the post, so you’re allowed to delete it no matter what. That always federate.\n
    - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
    - An admin can nominate any user from the same instance to moderate any of its communities, local or remote. That authority also ends at that instance. In theory it should work for remote users too, but then it’d be hard to be from lemmy.ml and moderate lemmy.world’s view of a community on lemmy.ca.\n
    - The instance that owns the community can also do whatever they want even if the post originated from elsewhere, because they own the community. That federates out.\n
    - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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      So my questions:\n
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          Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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    I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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    - As a user, you own the post, so you’re allowed to delete it no matter what. That always federate.\n
    - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
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    - The instance that owns the community can also do whatever they want even if the post originated from elsewhere, because they own the community. That federates out.\n
    - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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          (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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          Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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    I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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    - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
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    - The instance that owns the community can also do whatever they want even if the post originated from elsewhere, because they own the community. That federates out.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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          There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.
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          I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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    (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
    \n
    Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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    (b) You have to go appeal to lemmy.world. Each instance have its own independent appeal process.\n
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      Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca.\n
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      Fairly quickly thereafter, I got a DM saying that the post had been removed because someone who disagreed with me complained. Oddly though, the DM came from a @Automod@lemmy.world - not the server hosting the community.\n
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          Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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          - An admin always has full rights on what happens on their instance, because they own the server. The authority ends at their instance, so it may not federate out unless authorized otherwise.\n
          - An admin can nominate any user from the same instance to moderate any of its communities, local or remote. That authority also ends at that instance. In theory it should work for remote users too, but then it’d be hard to be from lemmy.ml and moderate lemmy.world’s view of a community on lemmy.ca.\n
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          - The instance that owns the community can nominate anyone from any instance as moderator. They’re authorized to perform mod actions on behalf of the instance that owns the community, therefore it will federate out as well.\n
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          Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.\n
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          If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).\n
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          I think the best way to visualize it is in terms of who owns what and who has the authority to perform moderator actions.\n
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    (a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!\n
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    Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.\n
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    That’s the beauty of the fediverse: instances can all have their rules to tailor the experience to their users, and it doesn’t have to affect the entire fediverse. Other instances linked to lemmy.ca can still see and interact with your post just fine, just not lemmy.world.
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        Sometimes “ugly” is even “not pretty and wealthy looking”.\n
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        Wind turbines aren’t pretty but they’re not any more of an eye sore as overhead power lines or whatever. And at least it’s a symbol of caring about being sustainable.\n
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        A lot of people like to move all the “ugly” elsewhere out of their sight and then call those places shitholes. It doesn’t bother them they’re just moving the infrastructure where the less wealthy have to deal with it. They’d rather a coal plant destroy a lower class city in pollution than see wind turbines near their upper class neighbourhood.
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        Sometimes “ugly” is even “not pretty and wealthy looking”.\n
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    Of course it’s a 737 Max.\n
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    Boeing’s really been dropping the ball on the 737 Max upgrades, first the Max 8 now the Max 9.\n
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    At this point I kind of avoid airlines with Boeing fleets, the Airbus planes are nicer anyway in general.
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    Context\n
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    \n
    I want to host public-facing applications on a server in my home, without compromising security. I realize containers might be one way to do this, and want to explore that route further.\n
    \n
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    - Must not be able to interfere with other containers or applications inside them\n
    - Must have no access or influence on other devices in the local network, or otherwise compromise the security of the network, but still accessible by devices via ssh.\n
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    - **Running containers in rootless mode:** in other words, running the container daemon with an unprivileged host user\n
    - **Running applications in container under unprivileged users:** the container user under which the container is ran should be unprivileged\n
    - **Networking:** The container’s networking must be restricted. I am still not sure how to do this and shall explore it more, but would appreciate any resources.\n
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    --------------------\n
    \n
    I have seen bubblewrap presented as an alternative, but it seems like it is not intended to be used directly in this manner, and information about using it for this is scarce.
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        Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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        If you want an additional layer of security, you could also run it all in a VM, so a container escape leads to a VM that does nothing else but run containers. So another major layer to break.
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        Kernel exploits. Containers logically isolate resources but they’re still effectively running as processes on the same kernel sharing the same hardware. There was one of those just last year: [blog.aquasec.com/cve-2022-0185-linux-kernel-conta…](https://blog.aquasec.com/cve-2022-0185-linux-kernel-container-escape-in-kubernetes)\n
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      +body: """
        Security comes in layers, so if you’re serious about security you do in fact plan for things like that. You always want to limit the blast radius if your security measures fail. And most of the big cloud providers do that for their container/kubernetes offerings.\n
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        If you run portainer for example and that one gets breached, that’s essentially free container escape because you can trick Docker into mounting and exposing what you need from the host to escape. It’s not uncommon for people to sometimes give more permissions than the container really needs.\n
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  +body: """
    Context\n
    -------\n
    \n
    I want to host public-facing applications on a server in my home, without compromising security. I realize containers might be one way to do this, and want to explore that route further.\n
    \n
    Requirements\n
    ------------\n
    \n
    I want to run applications within containers such that they\n
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    - Must not be able to interfere with other containers or applications inside them\n
    - Must have no access or influence on other devices in the local network, or otherwise compromise the security of the network, but still accessible by devices via ssh.\n
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    - **Running containers in rootless mode:** in other words, running the container daemon with an unprivileged host user\n
    - **Running applications in container under unprivileged users:** the container user under which the container is ran should be unprivileged\n
    - **Networking:** The container’s networking must be restricted. I am still not sure how to do this and shall explore it more, but would appreciate any resources.\n
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    --------------------\n
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    I have seen bubblewrap presented as an alternative, but it seems like it is not intended to be used directly in this manner, and information about using it for this is scarce.
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        Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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        Security comes in layers, so if you’re serious about security you do in fact plan for things like that. You always want to limit the blast radius if your security measures fail. And most of the big cloud providers do that for their container/kubernetes offerings.\n
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    Context\n
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    I want to host public-facing applications on a server in my home, without compromising security. I realize containers might be one way to do this, and want to explore that route further.\n
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        Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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    Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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    Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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          Security comes in layers, so if you’re serious about security you do in fact plan for things like that. You always want to limit the blast radius if your security measures fail. And most of the big cloud providers do that for their container/kubernetes offerings.\n
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    Kernel exploits. Containers logically isolate resources but they’re still effectively running as processes on the same kernel sharing the same hardware. There was one of those just last year: [blog.aquasec.com/cve-2022-0185-linux-kernel-conta…](https://blog.aquasec.com/cve-2022-0185-linux-kernel-container-escape-in-kubernetes)\n
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      Context\n
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      I want to host public-facing applications on a server in my home, without compromising security. I realize containers might be one way to do this, and want to explore that route further.\n
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      Requirements\n
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      I want to run applications within containers such that they\n
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      - Must not be able to interfere with other containers or applications inside them\n
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      > Note: all of this within reason. I understand that sometimes there may be occasional vulnerabilities, like in kernel for example, that would eventually get fixed. Risks like this within reason I am willing to accept.\n
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      What I found so far\n
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      - **Running containers in rootless mode:** in other words, running the container daemon with an unprivileged host user\n
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      Alternative solution\n
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      I have seen bubblewrap presented as an alternative, but it seems like it is not intended to be used directly in this manner, and information about using it for this is scarce.
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          Both Docker and Podman pretty much handle all of those so I think you’re good. The last aspect about networking can easily be fixed with a few iptables/nftables/firewalld rules. One final addition could be NGINX in front of web services or something dedicated to handling web requests on the open Internet to reduce potential exploits in the embedded web servers in your apps. But other than that, you’ve got it all covered yourself.\n
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    Security comes in layers, so if you’re serious about security you do in fact plan for things like that. You always want to limit the blast radius if your security measures fail. And most of the big cloud providers do that for their container/kubernetes offerings.\n
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    If you run portainer for example and that one gets breached, that’s essentially free container escape because you can trick Docker into mounting and exposing what you need from the host to escape. It’s not uncommon for people to sometimes give more permissions than the container really needs.\n
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    It’s not like making a VM dedicated to running your containers cost anything. It’s basically free. I don’t do it all the time, but if it’s exposed to the Internet and there’s other stuff on the box I want to be hard to get into, like if it runs on my home server or desktop, then it definitely gets a VM.\n
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