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I’ll answer your question of why with your own frustration - bare metal is difficult. Every engineer uses a different language/framework/dependencies/whathaveyou and usually they’ll conflict with others. Docker solves this be containing those apps in their own space. Their code, projects, dependencies are already installed and taken care of, you don’t need to worry about it.\n
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**Why docker?**\n
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> lots of mess in the system (mounts, fake networks, rules…)\n
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We now have a generation of developers that doesn’t understand the basic of their tech stack, about networking, about DNS, about how to deploy a simple thing into a server that doesn’t use some Docker or isn’t a 3rd party cloud xyz deploy-from-github service.\n
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**Why docker?**\n
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This is a really bad take. I’m all for OSS, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t value with things like Docker.\n
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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I was referring specifically to docker files. Those are almost to the letter scripts for setting up software.\n
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I find your attitude not just uncharitable, but also rude.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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> I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is not a script for setting up software.\n
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I was referring specifically to docker files. Those are almost to the letter scripts for setting up software.\n
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> if that’s what you’re thought is then you really don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it.\n
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I find your attitude not just uncharitable, but also rude.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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So yes, I’m a bit rude about it. I do this professionally and I’m very tired of people who don’t understand containerization explain to me how containerization sucks.
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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In the end docker files are just instructions for running software to set up other software. Just like every other single shell script or config file in existence since the mid seventies.
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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> I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is not a script for setting up software.\n
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I was referring specifically to docker files. Those are almost to the letter scripts for setting up software.\n
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> if that’s what you’re thought is then you really don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it.\n
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I find your attitude not just uncharitable, but also rude.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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So yes, I’m a bit rude about it. I do this professionally and I’m very tired of people who don’t understand containerization explain to me how containerization sucks.
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Everything I wrote is rigorously correct, if a bit tongue in cheek.\n
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Go play with your Dunning Kruger somewhere else.
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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In the end docker files are just instructions for running software to set up other software. Just like every other single shell script or config file in existence since the mid seventies.
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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I was referring specifically to docker files. Those are almost to the letter scripts for setting up software.\n
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I find your attitude not just uncharitable, but also rude.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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Everything I wrote is rigorously correct, if a bit tongue in cheek.\n
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Go play with your Dunning Kruger somewhere else.
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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In the end docker files are just instructions for running software to set up other software. Just like every other single shell script or config file in existence since the mid seventies.
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is *not* a script for setting up software. If that’s what you’re thought is then you *really* don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it. Like it or not it’s here, and if you’re doing any dev/ops work professionally you will be left behind for not understanding it.
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Apparently I was unclear, I was referring to the security implications of using different manifestations of other people’s code. Those are rather similar.\n
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> I’d recommend reading up on docker and containerization. It is not a script for setting up software.\n
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I was referring specifically to docker files. Those are almost to the letter scripts for setting up software.\n
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> if that’s what you’re thought is then you really don’t understand containerization and I recommend taking some learnings on it.\n
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I find your attitude not just uncharitable, but also rude.
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and I find misinformation about topics like this also to be rude. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t understand something, but what I don’t like is you going out of your way to dissuade people from using a product when I don’t think you understand the core concepts of it. If you have valid criticisms like security of docker then that’s a different conversation about securing containers, but it’s hard to take them as valid criticisms if the criticism is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product.\n
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I don’t think anyone I have ever talked to professionally or read about docker would ever describe a dockerfile as “scripts for setting up software”. It is much more nuanced then that.\n
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So yes, I’m a bit rude about it. I do this professionally and I’m very tired of people who don’t understand containerization explain to me how containerization sucks.
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Everything I wrote is rigorously correct, if a bit tongue in cheek.\n
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Go play with your Dunning Kruger somewhere else.
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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In the end docker files are just instructions for running software to set up other software. Just like every other single shell script or config file in existence since the mid seventies.
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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I don’t think you understood the context of the comment you replied to. As a reply to “Here are all these drawbacks to Docker vs hosting on bare metal,” it makes perfect sense to point out that the risks are there regardless.\n
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Unless I misread your comment and you’re suggesting that you think devs not having to deal with OS-specific code is a disadvantage of Docker. Or maybe you meant your second paragraph to be directed at OP?
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Your first sentence proves that it’s different. The developer needs to know it’s going to be a Deb package. What about rpm? What about if it’s going to run on mac? Windows? That means they’ll have to change how they develop to think about all of these different platforms. Oh you run windows - well windows doesn’t have openssl, so we need to do this vs that.\n
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How is this meaningfully different than using Deb packages? Or building from source without inspecting the build commands? Or even just building from source without auditing the source?\n
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Hi! Question in the title.\n
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I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:\n
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- you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it\n
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I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.\n
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I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.
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To answer each question:\n
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- You can run rootless containers but, importantly, you don’t need to run *Docker* as root. Should the unthinkable happen, and someone “breaks out” of docker jail, they’ll only be running in the context of the user running the docker daemon on the physical host.\n
- True but, in my experience, most docker images are open source and have git repos - you can freely download the repo, inspect the build files, and build your own. I do this for some images I feel I want 100% control of, and have my own local Docker repo server to hold them.\n
- It’s the opposite - you don’t really need to care about docker networks, unless you have an explicit need to contain a given container’s traffic to it’s own local net, and bind mounts are just maps to physical folders/files on the host system, with the added benefit of mounting read-only where required.\n
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I run containers on top of containers - Proxmox cluster, with a Linux container (CT) for each service. Most of those CTs are simply a Debian image I’ve created, running Docker and a couple of other bits. The services then sit inside Docker (usually) on each CT.\n
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It’s not messy at all. I use Portainer to manage all my Docker services, and Proxmox to manage the hosts themselves.\n
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Why? I like to play.\n
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Proxmox gives me full separation of each service - each one has its own CT. Think of that as me running dozens of Raspberry Pis, without the headache of managing all that hardware. Docker gives me complete portability and recoverability. I can move services around quite easily, and can update/rollback with ease.\n
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Finally, the combination of the two gives me a *huge* advantage over bare metal for rapid prototyping.\n
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Let’s say there’s a new contender that competes with Immich. I have Immich hosted on a CT, using Docker, and hiding behind Nginx Proxy Manager (also on a CT).\n
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I can spin up a Proxmox CT from my own template, use my Ansible playbook to provision Docker and all the other bits, load it in my Portainer management platform, and spin up the latest and greatest Immich competitor, all within mere minutes. Like, literally 10 minutes max.\n
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I have a play with the competitor for a bit. If I don’t like it, I just delete the CT and move on. If I do, I can point my `photos…` hostname (via Nginx Proxy Manager) to the new service and start using it full-time. Importantly, I can still keep my original Immich CT in place - maybe shutdown, maybe not - just in case I discover something I don’t like about the new kid on the block.
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A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.\n
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Rules:\n
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Resources:\n
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- [awesome-selfhosted software](https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted)\n
- [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
- [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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