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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.75 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#1691
  +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1692 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#1795 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1705 …}
  +slug: "It-ain-t-fancy-I-just-want-a-new-US-flag"
  +title: "It ain't fancy, I just want a new US flag"
  +url: "https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/75414f7d-a540-4ad2-b0c2-56a84b5187b6.png"
  +body: """
    7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
    \n
    13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
    \n
    1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
    \n
    3:5 for both flag and blue corner
    """
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  +hasEmbed: true
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  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
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  +lastActive: DateTime @1702214191 {#1680
    date: 2023-12-10 14:16:31.0 +01:00
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  +mentions: null
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …}
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    4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1715
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      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1691}
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      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 …}
      +body: """
        Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
        \n
        Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
        """
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      +isAdult: false
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      +lastActive: DateTime @1701337214 {#1723
        date: 2023-11-30 10:40:14.0 +01:00
      }
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      +tags: null
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        "@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2360 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2370 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2371 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2379 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2382 …}
      -id: 180256
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      +ranking: 0
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      +downVotes: 0
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      +apId: "https://mander.xyz/comment/5603172"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701337214 {#1728
        date: 2023-11-30 10:40:14.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 180256
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      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1691}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1692 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1907 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1907 …}
      +body: """
        Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
        \n
        Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701371364 {#2464
        date: 2023-11-30 20:09:24.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        "@CharlesMangione@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1926 …}
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      -id: 181803
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      +ranking: 0
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      +apId: "https://mander.xyz/comment/5615010"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701371364 {#1908
        date: 2023-11-30 20:09:24.0 +01:00
      }
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      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1691}
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      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2025 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2025 …}
      +body: """
        Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
        \n
        I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
        \n
        Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
        \n
        There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
        \n
        As for the size of the stars, again they are in the maximum radius circle which fits in the blue, so can’t change their position, and making them any bigger would cause them to touch each other or at least feel cramped.\n
        \n
        The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
        """
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
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      +lastActive: DateTime @1701372272 {#2026
        date: 2023-11-30 20:24:32.0 +01:00
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      +ranking: 0
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      +apId: "https://mander.xyz/comment/5615332"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702375117 {#2024
        date: 2023-12-12 10:58:37.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701372272 {#2022
        date: 2023-11-30 20:24:32.0 +01:00
      }
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      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#1691}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1692 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1405 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1405 …}
      +body: "I don’t understand. What do the delegates of the Second Continental Congress and Constitutional Convention have to do with anything?"
      +lang: "en"
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      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701371475 {#1381
        date: 2023-11-30 20:11:15.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
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      ]
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1362 …}
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      -id: 181815
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      +ranking: 0
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      +apId: "https://mander.xyz/comment/5615066"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701371475 {#1383
        date: 2023-11-30 20:11:15.0 +01:00
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    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2061
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      +image: null
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      +body: """
        I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
        \n
        If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
        \n
        If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
        """
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      +lastActive: DateTime @1701379718 {#2037
        date: 2023-11-30 22:28:38.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#1691
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  +slug: "It-ain-t-fancy-I-just-want-a-new-US-flag"
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  +body: """
    7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
    \n
    13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
    \n
    1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
    \n
    3:5 for both flag and blue corner
    """
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        Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
        \n
        Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
        """
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        Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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        Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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        Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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        I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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        Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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        There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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        I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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        If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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        If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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    13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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    1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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        Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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        Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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        Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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        Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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        Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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        I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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        Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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        There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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        The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
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        I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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        If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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    Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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      3:5 for both flag and blue corner
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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        +body: "I don’t understand. What do the delegates of the Second Continental Congress and Constitutional Convention have to do with anything?"
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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    Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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    Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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    Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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    Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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    Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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    Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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    Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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    Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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    I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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    Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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    There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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    As for the size of the stars, again they are in the maximum radius circle which fits in the blue, so can’t change their position, and making them any bigger would cause them to touch each other or at least feel cramped.\n
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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    I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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    Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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    There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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    Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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    I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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    Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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    There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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    The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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          If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
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          I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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          If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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    I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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    If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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    If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      13 stars in a circle for the original 13 colonies\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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          The stars in a circle in the blue is a classic American design which has been done on the flag before (besty ross, cowpens, etc.).
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    I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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    If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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    If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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      7 stripes for 7 core founding fathers\n
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      1 larger, more prominent star in the center of the 13 for *E Pluribus Unum*\n
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          Yes that is probably the most similar of all (real) US variant flags. Compared to Cowpens: less stripes, upright stars, one more star in the circle (14 vs 13 total), and the center star being larger than the rest.\n
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          Though perhaps the most similar other flag is the one used by Ulysses in Lonesome Road.
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          Alright look just because a certain someone made the best of all these “style” designs doesn’t mean the motherland doesn’t deserve at least a little better.\n
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          Though the large center star is the least compelling aspect due to the similarity, perhaps it should be the same size as the others.
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          Sure there’s some degree of arbitriness to 7, but I don’t think you could reasonably claim it’s any *less* than 7, and 7 is even a number wikipedia throws around. Not that there are only 7, just that there are 7 particularly important ones.\n
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          I really just think the 13 the current US flag has looks too busy, but this is the only “American” number I could think of which was less than 13. If you have others I’d love to hear!\n
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          Can you say more about the stars? Are you against them being in a circle?\n
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          There’s not really any way to have them “fill up” the blue while still being in a circle (even if you change their sizes), unless you change the ratio of the blue, which would cause it to deviate from that of the flag itself. Maybe I can cook up a 2:3 version for ya.\n
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    I’m not trying to push an agenda. I don’t know what you mean by “picking and choosing writings”. I’m still not sure exactly what you’re saying.\n
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    If you’re saying there are no such thing as “founding fathers”, I think that’s just wrong in the sense that the myth of the founding fathers is a part of American culture and is taught in American schools. There is no “founding father” gene or element, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.\n
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    If you’re saying all the people who were delegates at those conventions are equally “founding fathers” because they helped forge the documents, then sure, I can respect that opinion. But some of those delegates undoubtedly played a significantly larger role in early American history than others (including the creation of those documents!). Hence why we learn about a select few of them, and not all ~100 (although I guess that would also be impractical in a school setting). The specific number 7 is a bit arbitrary, but ~10 were a lot more important than the rest.
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