Redirect 302 redirect from GET @entry_comment_create (073234)

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
16.62 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#1833
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1896 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: null
    +name: "degoogle@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "degoogle"
    +description: """
      A community for those that would like to get away from Google.\n
      \n
      Here you may post anything related to DeGoogling, why we should do it or good software alternatives!\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      1. Be respectful even in disagreement\n
      2. No advertising unless it is very relevent and justified. Do not do this excessively.\n
      3. No low value posts / memes. We or you need to learn, or discuss something.\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      !privacyguides@lemmy.one !privacy@lemmy.ml [!privatelife@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)!linuxphones@lemmy.ml !fossdroid@social.fossware.space !fdroid@lemmy.ml
      """
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    +subscriptionsCount: 1
    +entryCount: 12
    +entryCommentCount: 88
    +postCount: 0
    +postCommentCount: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729480714 {#275
      date: 2024-10-21 05:18:34.0 +02:00
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    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#249 …}
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    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#216 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#133 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#119 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#97 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#87 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#63 …}
    -id: 153
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    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "degoogle"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1704626639 {#269
      date: 2024-01-07 12:23:59.0 +01:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704626636 {#271
      date: 2024-01-07 12:23:56.0 +01:00
    }
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  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1888 …}
  +slug: "How-can-I-run-apps-without-Play-Store"
  +title: "How can I run apps without Play Store"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    For my degoogled android, I am uninstalling bloatwares using adb. Now, I even decided to remove Play Store and use Aurora Store and Obtainium; but haven’t touched Google Play Service.\n
    \n
    Everything was running smoothly till I recently installed ChatGPT Android; but the app is not even starting, and shows the message you need Play Store or Update it.\n
    \n
    Is their any way around for it.\n
    \n
    I am considering microG but not aware how those tech work; also no intention for rooting my phone
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 12
  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1721861795 {#1794
    date: 2024-07-25 00:56:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1887 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2425 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1903 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1898 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1904 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 28983
  -titleTs: "'app':5 'play':7 'run':4 'store':8 'without':6"
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705053675
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10575777"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704979175 {#2434
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#1833
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1896 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: null
    +name: "degoogle@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "degoogle"
    +description: """
      A community for those that would like to get away from Google.\n
      \n
      Here you may post anything related to DeGoogling, why we should do it or good software alternatives!\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      1. Be respectful even in disagreement\n
      2. No advertising unless it is very relevent and justified. Do not do this excessively.\n
      3. No low value posts / memes. We or you need to learn, or discuss something.\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      !privacyguides@lemmy.one !privacy@lemmy.ml [!privatelife@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)!linuxphones@lemmy.ml !fossdroid@social.fossware.space !fdroid@lemmy.ml
      """
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    +subscriptionsCount: 1
    +entryCount: 12
    +entryCommentCount: 88
    +postCount: 0
    +postCommentCount: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729480714 {#275
      date: 2024-10-21 05:18:34.0 +02:00
    }
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    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#253 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#249 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#196 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#154 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#216 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#133 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#119 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#97 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#87 …}
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    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "degoogle"
    +apDiscoverable: true
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1704626639 {#269
      date: 2024-01-07 12:23:59.0 +01:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704626636 {#271
      date: 2024-01-07 12:23:56.0 +01:00
    }
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  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1888 …}
  +slug: "How-can-I-run-apps-without-Play-Store"
  +title: "How can I run apps without Play Store"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    For my degoogled android, I am uninstalling bloatwares using adb. Now, I even decided to remove Play Store and use Aurora Store and Obtainium; but haven’t touched Google Play Service.\n
    \n
    Everything was running smoothly till I recently installed ChatGPT Android; but the app is not even starting, and shows the message you need Play Store or Update it.\n
    \n
    Is their any way around for it.\n
    \n
    I am considering microG but not aware how those tech work; also no intention for rooting my phone
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 12
  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1721861795 {#1794
    date: 2024-07-25 00:56:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1887 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2425 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1903 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1898 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1904 …}
  +children: []
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  -titleTs: "'app':5 'play':7 'run':4 'store':8 'without':6"
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705053675
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10575777"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704979175 {#2434
    date: 2024-01-11 14:19:35.0 +01:00
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}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#1833
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1896 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: null
    +name: "degoogle@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "degoogle"
    +description: """
      A community for those that would like to get away from Google.\n
      \n
      Here you may post anything related to DeGoogling, why we should do it or good software alternatives!\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      1. Be respectful even in disagreement\n
      2. No advertising unless it is very relevent and justified. Do not do this excessively.\n
      3. No low value posts / memes. We or you need to learn, or discuss something.\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      !privacyguides@lemmy.one !privacy@lemmy.ml [!privatelife@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)!linuxphones@lemmy.ml !fossdroid@social.fossware.space !fdroid@lemmy.ml
      """
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    +entryCount: 12
    +entryCommentCount: 88
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1729480714 {#275
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  +slug: "How-can-I-run-apps-without-Play-Store"
  +title: "How can I run apps without Play Store"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    For my degoogled android, I am uninstalling bloatwares using adb. Now, I even decided to remove Play Store and use Aurora Store and Obtainium; but haven’t touched Google Play Service.\n
    \n
    Everything was running smoothly till I recently installed ChatGPT Android; but the app is not even starting, and shows the message you need Play Store or Update it.\n
    \n
    Is their any way around for it.\n
    \n
    I am considering microG but not aware how those tech work; also no intention for rooting my phone
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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    My bad, it must have been another one that I could make multiple profiles with, you are right, I don’t see that on my Insular install currently.\n
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