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Just as a matter of curiosity
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FWIW, the stat structure in Linux does not include birth time [[1](https://man.archlinux.org/man/stat.3type)]. It only gives you:\n
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Just as a matter of curiosity
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FWIW, the stat structure in Linux does not include birth time [[1](https://man.archlinux.org/man/stat.3type)]. It only gives you:\n
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The struct returned by `stat` doesn’t, but `statx` [contains creation time as well as well](https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/statx.2.html). I believe ext4 is already tracking the creation time even if `stat` can’t provide it.\n
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The `stat` command on modern distros should get you this additional metadata, unless you use an FS that doesn’t track or expose it, of course.
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FWIW, the stat structure in Linux does not include birth time [[1](https://man.archlinux.org/man/stat.3type)]. It only gives you:\n
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The struct returned by `stat` doesn’t, but `statx` [contains creation time as well as well](https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/statx.2.html). I believe ext4 is already tracking the creation time even if `stat` can’t provide it.\n
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FWIW, the stat structure in Linux does not include birth time [[1](https://man.archlinux.org/man/stat.3type)]. It only gives you:\n
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The struct returned by `stat` doesn’t, but `statx` [contains creation time as well as well](https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/statx.2.html). I believe ext4 is already tracking the creation time even if `stat` can’t provide it.\n
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