Redirect 302 redirect from GET @entry_comment_create (153388)

GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/shitposting@lemmygrad.ml/t/32510/Better-Europe-anyone/oldest?p=1

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.14
Profiled on
Token
cfd022

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.80 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
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  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
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    +entryCount: 42
    +entryCommentCount: 232
    +postCount: 0
    +postCommentCount: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729556037 {#275
      date: 2024-10-22 02:13:57.0 +02:00
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    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
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    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
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      date: 2024-10-11 21:38:22.0 +02:00
    }
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    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704609798 {#271
      date: 2024-01-07 07:43:18.0 +01:00
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  +body: """
    I saw @ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 's post and wound up making a larger version of it (with my own changes)\n
    \n
    Update- wound up making a expanded version\n
    \n
    ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d50ac600-ca0f-4dca-a26d-c6dbbb1e22a4.png)\n
    \n
    and a notion of how it would look amidst a better world (not overly serious, borders subject to change) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/3ae6f59d-3a1a-4558-90dd-5b884ee3d144.png)
    """
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  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 53
  +favouriteCount: 46
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1728657303 {#2414
    date: 2024-10-11 16:35:03.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1399 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2436 …}
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  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706060407
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3405787"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1727943742 {#1793
    date: 2024-10-03 10:22:22.0 +02:00
  }
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    date: 2024-01-23 02:40:07.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\Entry {#2400
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  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
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    +entryCount: 42
    +entryCommentCount: 232
    +postCount: 0
    +postCommentCount: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729556037 {#275
      date: 2024-10-22 02:13:57.0 +02:00
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    +tags: null
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    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
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    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
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    +privateKey: null
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    +visibility: "visible             "
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    I saw @ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 's post and wound up making a larger version of it (with my own changes)\n
    \n
    Update- wound up making a expanded version\n
    \n
    ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d50ac600-ca0f-4dca-a26d-c6dbbb1e22a4.png)\n
    \n
    and a notion of how it would look amidst a better world (not overly serious, borders subject to change) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/3ae6f59d-3a1a-4558-90dd-5b884ee3d144.png)
    """
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  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 53
  +favouriteCount: 46
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1728657303 {#2414
    date: 2024-10-11 16:35:03.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
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    I saw @ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 's post and wound up making a larger version of it (with my own changes)\n
    \n
    Update- wound up making a expanded version\n
    \n
    ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d50ac600-ca0f-4dca-a26d-c6dbbb1e22a4.png)\n
    \n
    and a notion of how it would look amidst a better world (not overly serious, borders subject to change) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/3ae6f59d-3a1a-4558-90dd-5b884ee3d144.png)
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
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      I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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    True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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      I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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    True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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    True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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            You might as well bring back whole Yugoslavia while at it.
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        I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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        Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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        Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
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      True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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    I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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    UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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    I like this one, Yugoslavia strong! Any non-aligned type of alliances?
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        I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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        Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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      True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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            You might as well bring back whole Yugoslavia while at it.
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        I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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        Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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        Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
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      True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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    I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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    UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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          I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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          Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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          Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
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        True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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        I actually spruced up the optimistic map some since, but figured I don’t want to flood lemmygrad with maps- but here’s the latest version- (also just realized saving in .jpg rather than .png gives just the size decrease along with already heavy resizing, to upload straight to lemmy) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d2b8e981-861f-4a32-8565-6b69d3c93e18.jpeg)
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      I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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      UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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      I like this one, Yugoslavia strong! Any non-aligned type of alliances?
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    > I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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    The imgur link or the uploaded file? Just in case, here: [imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj](https://imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj)\n
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    > Any non-aligned type of alliances?\n
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    Admittedly didn’t think of non-aligned movements too much in this case. Heavily aligned movements (a communist, anti-imperialist bloc or two, pan-Africanism, pan-Indigenism, pan-Arabism, pan-Celticism)? Sure. Internationalist countries and a global effort to prevent imperialism from reemerging, or western revanchism to cause trouble? Also definitely, sure. But in these scenarios where the west is decidedly out of the game for the foreseeable future- I’d like to imagine, perhaps in real life as well, that a large and common focus would be keeping them there.\n
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    > UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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    Thanks! I had a lot of fun adding it to places, TBH. I figured in borders that would no doubt leave a lot of people angry (not to mention the indigenism and de-Nazification programs underway) such a world would certainly need it. In the “pessimistic” version of the map there are 90 UN mandate regions labeled in total (and 1 African Union mandate), though these labels range from areas as large as Australia, Poland, and the southern half of Quebec, to as tiny as… the Aland islands, London, or a containment zone around Washington DC (most of the areas are approximately Netherlands-sized).\n
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    There are also 8 “international cities” (in other circumstances, I likely would have placed a whole lot more), all of which are UN mandates- in my imagining of it, those cities would be under permanent UN governance, with open borders to literally anyone from across the globe- London, Manchester, Birmingham, Paris, the Vatican, NYC (renamed for indigeneity), Washington DC (the aforementioned containment zone), and… Lisbon, because I felt I wasn’t balkanizing Portugal near enough, with just cutting off the Algarves. I had a lot of fun imagining the tantrums that would ensue from that as well. One can assume these to be sanctuary cities, on speed and steroids, but with the humanistic element of no longer being run by neoliberal ghouls which probably comes out as far more than a win.
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          I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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          Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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          Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
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        True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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        I actually spruced up the optimistic map some since, but figured I don’t want to flood lemmygrad with maps- but here’s the latest version- (also just realized saving in .jpg rather than .png gives just the size decrease along with already heavy resizing, to upload straight to lemmy) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d2b8e981-861f-4a32-8565-6b69d3c93e18.jpeg)
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      I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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      UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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      I like this one, Yugoslavia strong! Any non-aligned type of alliances?
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    > I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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    The imgur link or the uploaded file? Just in case, here: [imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj](https://imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj)\n
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    > Any non-aligned type of alliances?\n
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    Admittedly didn’t think of non-aligned movements too much in this case. Heavily aligned movements (a communist, anti-imperialist bloc or two, pan-Africanism, pan-Indigenism, pan-Arabism, pan-Celticism)? Sure. Internationalist countries and a global effort to prevent imperialism from reemerging, or western revanchism to cause trouble? Also definitely, sure. But in these scenarios where the west is decidedly out of the game for the foreseeable future- I’d like to imagine, perhaps in real life as well, that a large and common focus would be keeping them there.\n
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    Thanks! I had a lot of fun adding it to places, TBH. I figured in borders that would no doubt leave a lot of people angry (not to mention the indigenism and de-Nazification programs underway) such a world would certainly need it. In the “pessimistic” version of the map there are 90 UN mandate regions labeled in total (and 1 African Union mandate), though these labels range from areas as large as Australia, Poland, and the southern half of Quebec, to as tiny as… the Aland islands, London, or a containment zone around Washington DC (most of the areas are approximately Netherlands-sized).\n
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    There are also 8 “international cities” (in other circumstances, I likely would have placed a whole lot more), all of which are UN mandates- in my imagining of it, those cities would be under permanent UN governance, with open borders to literally anyone from across the globe- London, Manchester, Birmingham, Paris, the Vatican, NYC (renamed for indigeneity), Washington DC (the aforementioned containment zone), and… Lisbon, because I felt I wasn’t balkanizing Portugal near enough, with just cutting off the Algarves. I had a lot of fun imagining the tantrums that would ensue from that as well. One can assume these to be sanctuary cities, on speed and steroids, but with the humanistic element of no longer being run by neoliberal ghouls which probably comes out as far more than a win.
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          I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about [Bulgaria](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/cafffc7c-1da3-41da-9358-62bdab981f42.jpeg)\n
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          Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.\n
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          Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
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        True; in a [later post](https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3427445) I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.\n
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        I actually spruced up the optimistic map some since, but figured I don’t want to flood lemmygrad with maps- but here’s the latest version- (also just realized saving in .jpg rather than .png gives just the size decrease along with already heavy resizing, to upload straight to lemmy) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d2b8e981-861f-4a32-8565-6b69d3c93e18.jpeg)
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      I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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      UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.\n
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      I like this one, Yugoslavia strong! Any non-aligned type of alliances?
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    > I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.\n
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    The imgur link or the uploaded file? Just in case, here: [imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj](https://imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj)\n
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    > Any non-aligned type of alliances?\n
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    Admittedly didn’t think of non-aligned movements too much in this case. Heavily aligned movements (a communist, anti-imperialist bloc or two, pan-Africanism, pan-Indigenism, pan-Arabism, pan-Celticism)? Sure. Internationalist countries and a global effort to prevent imperialism from reemerging, or western revanchism to cause trouble? Also definitely, sure. But in these scenarios where the west is decidedly out of the game for the foreseeable future- I’d like to imagine, perhaps in real life as well, that a large and common focus would be keeping them there.\n
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    Thanks! I had a lot of fun adding it to places, TBH. I figured in borders that would no doubt leave a lot of people angry (not to mention the indigenism and de-Nazification programs underway) such a world would certainly need it. In the “pessimistic” version of the map there are 90 UN mandate regions labeled in total (and 1 African Union mandate), though these labels range from areas as large as Australia, Poland, and the southern half of Quebec, to as tiny as… the Aland islands, London, or a containment zone around Washington DC (most of the areas are approximately Netherlands-sized).\n
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    There are also 8 “international cities” (in other circumstances, I likely would have placed a whole lot more), all of which are UN mandates- in my imagining of it, those cities would be under permanent UN governance, with open borders to literally anyone from across the globe- London, Manchester, Birmingham, Paris, the Vatican, NYC (renamed for indigeneity), Washington DC (the aforementioned containment zone), and… Lisbon, because I felt I wasn’t balkanizing Portugal near enough, with just cutting off the Algarves. I had a lot of fun imagining the tantrums that would ensue from that as well. One can assume these to be sanctuary cities, on speed and steroids, but with the humanistic element of no longer being run by neoliberal ghouls which probably comes out as far more than a win.
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