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I have a few Linux servers at home that I regularly remote into in order to manage, usually logged into KDE Plasma as root. Usually they just have several command line windows and a file manager open (I personally just find it more convenient to use the command line from a remote desktop instead of directly SSH-ing into the system), but if I have an issue, I’ve just been absentmindedly searching stuff up and trying to find solutions using the preinstalled Firefox instance from within the remote desktop itself, which would also be running as root.\n
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I never went on any particularly shady websites, but I also don’t remember exactly which websites I’ve been on as root, though I do seem to remember seeing ads during the initial pihole setup, because it didn’t go very smoothly and I was searching up error messages trying to get it to work.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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> “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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> Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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This would ensure security, as well as a proper functioning flatpak/snap and also all feedback would be directed to the Dev.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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> Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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> “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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> Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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If you think the dev himself could inject malicious code in the official app, then you should be super aware that an anonymous Joe can too, and is far more likely to.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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> “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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It’s very easy to enforce. Flathub need to verify the identity of the person submitting the Flatpak to make sure it’s the app’s dev uploading it and not Joe Smith or nsa.gov…
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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I’ve never liked the fact that Canonical and whoever can make Snaps and Flatpaks of other people’s software. There is zero security guarantee, zero guarantee they’ll update it and zero guarantee it will work.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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If Valve only chooses to make a deb then so be it! It’s their product!
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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Just because Snap and Flatpak exist doesn’t mean just anyone should be able to just make them.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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We can’t have Bob from nowhere packaging Valve, then not updating it or patching it because he doesn’t have time. Or 5 Bob’s all doing the same thing with 5 copies of Valve on the Store.\n
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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> Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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The problem is that 3rd parties are doing the packaging both on Snap and Flatpak whereas if they had followed proper security practice ONLY THE REAL DEV should ever be allowed to package their app as a Flatpak or Snap.\n
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That’s not my point. I use Flathub but I try to only use verified apps which were packaged by the actual dev.\n
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I’d rather get a deb from the official dev than a flatpak from flathub packaged by someone who is essentially anonymous and could easily inject malicious code.\n
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Valve are not going to put malicious code on their app. Neither is VLC or any other FOSS developer.\n
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The distros should stick to packaging their repo apps and leave the Snap/FlatPak tech as an alternative to the original dev if they decide they want to use that.\n
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It’s crazy. This is what causes fragmentation. Flathub should vet every app and if you are not the dev of the app, you may not host it on Flathub. You’re still welcome to make a Flatpak for home use on your own pc but not for wide distribution.
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How so? How does ensuring they only the real dev of the app is also the only one allowed to package it hurt desktop adoption.\n
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\n
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\n
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\n
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Former title: SSD having issues after I filled up its storage\n
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I wrote this poorly last time so here’s a more clear description: Hey all, so I filled my SSD up on Linux Mint and it’s running sluggishly. I deleted more than half of my storage but there’s still issues. It can read / write fast according to my inexperienced testing and I have trimmed it (to my knowledge) but there’s still issues. Loading up programs now takes 30 seconds (even something like VLC which typically took like 0.5 seconds). Loading new audio files into VLC can take 10 seconds. I have checked my system monitor and nothing seems out of place. Also, when the program starts running, it runs perfectly. The computer itself is fast but loading anything new takes ages. Does anyone have any ideas? It’s a new laptop, not even two months old.\n
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