Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
20.14 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.05 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#245 …}
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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  +hasEmbed: false
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#2412
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1978 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#264
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#245 …}
    +name: "linux@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "linux"
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2412
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1978 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#264
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#245 …}
    +name: "linux@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "linux"
    +description: """
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
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        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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    In short incus has [Apache 2.0](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) copyright licene that states:\n
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              > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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      In short incus has [Apache 2.0](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) copyright licene that states:\n
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      In short incus has [Apache 2.0](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) copyright licene that states:\n
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      In short incus has [Apache 2.0](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) copyright licene that states:\n
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          Projects which choose BSD/Apache type licences do so fully in the knowledge that their code may be incorporated into projects with different licences. That’s literally the point: it’s considered a feature of the licence. These projects are explicitly OK with their code going proprietary, for example. If they weren’t OK with it, they’d use a GPL-type copyleft licence instead, as that’s conversely the literal point of *those* licences.\n
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    > Its not a one way street but this makes more libre thing. Canonical didnt make it proprietary to create a one way street but made it more libre by adopting AGPL license which gives users more rights to the code\n
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    Why is there still a CLA that allows them and only them to sell proprietary versions then? Don’t fall for Canonical’s PR bullshit.\n
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    Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright)
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                So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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    > Its not a one way street but this makes more libre thing. Canonical didnt make it proprietary to create a one way street but made it more libre by adopting AGPL license which gives users more rights to the code\n
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    Why is there still a CLA that allows them and only them to sell proprietary versions then? Don’t fall for Canonical’s PR bullshit.\n
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    Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright)
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                > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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                So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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                > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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                So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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              Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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        No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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                > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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                So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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              Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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        > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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        No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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    > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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    The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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                > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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              Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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        > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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        No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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    > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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    The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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          > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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          No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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          > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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          No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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      > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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          > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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          No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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      > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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                    > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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                    So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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        Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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        Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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    People making unsubstantiated claims are the rude ones, not the ones making factually correct statements without fluff.
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            > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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    The full details are complex but I’ll give you the basic gist. The original GPL licenses essentially say that if you give somebody the compiled binary, they are legally entitled to have the source code as well, along with the rights to modify and redistribute it so long as they too follow the same rules. It creates a system where code flows down freely like water.\n
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        Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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    The full details are complex but I’ll give you the basic gist. The original GPL licenses essentially say that if you give somebody the compiled binary, they are legally entitled to have the source code as well, along with the rights to modify and redistribute it so long as they too follow the same rules. It creates a system where code flows down freely like water.\n
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          > All Canonical contributions have been relicensed and are now under AGPLv3. Community contributions remain under Apache 2.0.\n
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          So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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        Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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    The full details are complex but I’ll give you the basic gist. The original GPL licenses essentially say that if you give somebody the compiled binary, they are legally entitled to have the source code as well, along with the rights to modify and redistribute it so long as they too follow the same rules. It creates a system where code flows down freely like water.\n
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