GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@S410@kbin.social/hot

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.133
Profiled on
Token
ead1ef

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.88 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1557 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2017 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1352 …}
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  +url: "https://www.phoronix.com/news/Graham-X11-Bad-Platform"
  +body: """
    > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
    \n
    > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
    \n
    [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
    """
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  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 177
  +favouriteCount: 274
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1711892999 {#2058
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  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1350 …}
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  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2525 …}
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      +image: null
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      +body: """
        To provide features that Xorg can't.  \n
        If you don't need features like fractional scaling, VRR, touchscreen gestures, etc. you won't notice a difference.  \n
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        """
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 18
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703693441 {#2342
        date: 2023-12-27 17:10:41.0 +01:00
      }
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        "@pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org"
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        "@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2143 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2136 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2073 …}
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      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2065 …}
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      +image: null
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      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703693817 {#2066
        date: 2023-12-27 17:16:57.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
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        "history"
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        "@pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org"
        "@CriticalMiss@lemmy.world"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2056 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2046 …}
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      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2050 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703693817 {#2071
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  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1703769948
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  +apId: "https://lemmy.ndlug.org/post/523560"
  +editedAt: null
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
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3 DENIED edit 
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  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2017 …}
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  +slug: "KDE-s-Nate-Graham-On-X11-Being-A-Bad-Platform-and-The"
  +title: "KDE's Nate Graham On X11 Being A Bad Platform & The Wayland Future"
  +url: "https://www.phoronix.com/news/Graham-X11-Bad-Platform"
  +body: """
    > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
    \n
    > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
    \n
    [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
    """
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  +sticky: false
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    date: 2024-03-31 15:49:59.0 +02:00
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2508 …}
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        To provide features that Xorg can't.  \n
        If you don't need features like fractional scaling, VRR, touchscreen gestures, etc. you won't notice a difference.  \n
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        """
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      +isAdult: false
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        date: 2023-12-27 17:10:41.0 +01:00
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        date: 2023-12-27 17:10:41.0 +01:00
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  +editedAt: null
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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        Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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        A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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        It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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        As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
    \n
    As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
    \n
    With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
    \n
    So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
    \n
    **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
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        Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
        \n
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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        LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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        A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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        When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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        It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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        As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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        LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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        When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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  +slug: "Protect-Obfuscate-your-content-from-bots-and-AIs"
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    Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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    As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
    \n
    With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
    \n
    So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
    \n
    **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
    \n
    EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
    \n
    Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
    \n
    Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
    \n
    Let me know what you guys think!
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        Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
        \n
        And currently existing models can often do the same! Sometimes they make pretty stupid mistakes, but they often do, in fact, manage to end up with brand new information derived from old stuff.\n
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        I've tortured various LLMs with short stories, questions and riddles, which I've written specifically for the task and which I've asked the models to explain or rewrite. Surprisingly, they often get things either mostly or absolutely right, despite the fact it's novel data they've never seen before. So, there's definitely some actual learning going on. Or, at least, something incredibly close to it, to the point it's nigh impossible to differentiate it from actual learning.
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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        LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
        \n
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        It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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        As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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        Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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        LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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        A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
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      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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    I've tortured various LLMs with short stories, questions and riddles, which I've written specifically for the task and which I've asked the models to explain or rewrite. Surprisingly, they often get things either mostly or absolutely right, despite the fact it's novel data they've never seen before. So, there's definitely some actual learning going on. Or, at least, something incredibly close to it, to the point it's nigh impossible to differentiate it from actual learning.
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
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      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
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      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
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      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
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      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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    I've tortured various LLMs with short stories, questions and riddles, which I've written specifically for the task and which I've asked the models to explain or rewrite. Surprisingly, they often get things either mostly or absolutely right, despite the fact it's novel data they've never seen before. So, there's definitely some actual learning going on. Or, at least, something incredibly close to it, to the point it's nigh impossible to differentiate it from actual learning.
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
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      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
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      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
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      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
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      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
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      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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    Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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    I've tortured various LLMs with short stories, questions and riddles, which I've written specifically for the task and which I've asked the models to explain or rewrite. Surprisingly, they often get things either mostly or absolutely right, despite the fact it's novel data they've never seen before. So, there's definitely some actual learning going on. Or, at least, something incredibly close to it, to the point it's nigh impossible to differentiate it from actual learning.
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
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      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
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      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
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      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
      \n
      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
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      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    \n
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      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
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      \n
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          \n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
          \n
          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
          \n
          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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    A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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    When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          And like a calculator that can derive that 2 + 3 is 5, despite the fact that number 5 is never mentioned in the input, or that particular formula was not a part of the suit of tests that were used to verify that the calculator works correctly, a machine learning model can figure out that "apple slices + batter = apple pie", assuming it has been tuned (aka trained) right.
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
          \n
          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
          \n
          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
          \n
          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
          \n
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    It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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    As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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    +slug: "Protect-Obfuscate-your-content-from-bots-and-AIs"
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
      \n
      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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        +body: """
          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
          \n
          And currently existing models can often do the same! Sometimes they make pretty stupid mistakes, but they often do, in fact, manage to end up with brand new information derived from old stuff.\n
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          I've tortured various LLMs with short stories, questions and riddles, which I've written specifically for the task and which I've asked the models to explain or rewrite. Surprisingly, they often get things either mostly or absolutely right, despite the fact it's novel data they've never seen before. So, there's definitely some actual learning going on. Or, at least, something incredibly close to it, to the point it's nigh impossible to differentiate it from actual learning.
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
          \n
          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
          \n
          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          And like a calculator that can derive that 2 + 3 is 5, despite the fact that number 5 is never mentioned in the input, or that particular formula was not a part of the suit of tests that were used to verify that the calculator works correctly, a machine learning model can figure out that "apple slices + batter = apple pie", assuming it has been tuned (aka trained) right.
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    It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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    As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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    As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
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      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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    A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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      Hey everyone, so for the past few month I have been working on this project and I’d love to have your feedback on it.\n
      \n
      As we all know any time we publish something public online (on Reddit, Twitter or even this forum), our posts, comments or messages are scrapped and read by thousands of bots for various legitimate or illegitimate reasons.\n
      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
      \n
      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
          \n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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      \n
      With the rise of LLMs like ChatGPT we know that the “understanding” of textual content at scale is more efficient than ever.\n
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      So I created **Redakt**, an open source zero-click decryption tool to encrypt any text you publish online to make it only understandable to other users that have the browser extension installed.\n
      \n
      **Try it!**Feel free to install the extension (Chrome/Brave/Firefox ): <https://redakt.org/browser/>\n
      \n
      EDIT: For example, here’s a Medium article with encrypted content: <https://redakt.org/demo/>\n
      \n
      Before you ask: What if the bots adapt and also use Redakt’s extension or encryption key?\n
      \n
      Well first they don’t at the moment (they’re too busy gathering billions of data points “in clear”). If they do use the extension then any changes we’ll add to the extension (captcha, encryption method) will force them to readapt and prevent them to scale their data collection.\n
      \n
      Let me know what you guys think!
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          Learning is, essentially, "algorithmically copy-paste". The vast majority of things you know, you've learned from other people or other people's works. What makes you more than a copy-pasting machine is the ability to extrapolate from that acquired knowledge to create new knowledge.\n
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          Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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          LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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          A calculator for pure numbers is a pretty simple device all the logic of which can be designed by a human directly.\n
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          When we want to create a solver for systems that aren't as easily defined, we have to resort to other methods. E.g. "machine learning".\n
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          And like a calculator that can derive that 2 + 3 is 5, despite the fact that number 5 is never mentioned in the input, or that particular formula was not a part of the suit of tests that were used to verify that the calculator works correctly, a machine learning model can figure out that "apple slices + batter = apple pie", assuming it has been tuned (aka trained) right.
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          It's illegal if you copy-paste someone's work verbatim. It's not illegal to, for example, summarize someone's work and write a short version of it.\n
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          As long as overfitting doesn't happen and the machine learning model actually learns general patterns, instead of memorizing training data, it should be perfectly capable of generating data that's not copied verbatim from humans. Whom, exactly, a model is plagiarizing if it generates a summarized version of some work you give it, particularly if that work is novel and was created or published after the model was trained?
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    Not once did I claim that LLMs are sapient, sentient or even have any kind of personality. I didn't even use the overused term "AI".\n
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    LLMs, for example, are something like... a calculator. But for text.\n
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    \n
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    Heya folks, some people online told me I was doing partitions wrong, but I’ve been doing it this way for years. Since I’ve been doing it for years, I could be doing it in an outdated way, so I thought I should ask.\n
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    I have separate partitions for EFI, `/`, swap, and `/home`. Am I doing it wrong? Here’s how my partition table looks like:\n
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        Not OP, but I have the same setup.\n
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      Heya folks, some people online told me I was doing partitions wrong, but I’ve been doing it this way for years. Since I’ve been doing it for years, I could be doing it in an outdated way, so I thought I should ask.\n
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    Not OP, but I have the same setup.\n
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      Heya folks, some people online told me I was doing partitions wrong, but I’ve been doing it this way for years. Since I’ve been doing it for years, I could be doing it in an outdated way, so I thought I should ask.\n
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      I have separate partitions for EFI, `/`, swap, and `/home`. Am I doing it wrong? Here’s how my partition table looks like:\n
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          Not OP, but I have the same setup.\n
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        +body: "I have a 120 gig SSD. The system takes up around 60 gigs + BTRFS snapshots and its overhead. A have around 15 gigs of wiggle room, on average. Trying to squeeze some /home stuff in there doesn't really seem that reasonable, to be honest."
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        +body: "As long as you don't re-format the partition. Not all installers are created equal, so it might be more complicated to re-install the OS without wiping the partition entirely. Or it might be just fine. I don't really install linux often enough to know that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
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      Heya folks, some people online told me I was doing partitions wrong, but I’ve been doing it this way for years. Since I’ve been doing it for years, I could be doing it in an outdated way, so I thought I should ask.\n
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