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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	0.89 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.05 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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    > I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?\n
    \n
    I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
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    > I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?\n
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    > I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?\n
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    While that is true, it’s also r13y on another level: Reproducible evaluation. That mostly stems from pure eval and locking.\n
    \n
    In the “before times”, you’d get your Nix expressions from some mutable location in the Nix path, so running i.e. a nixos-rebuild on your configuration could produce two different eval results when ran at two different times, depending on whether anything about your channel configuration changed in the mean time. This cannot happen with flakes as all inputs are explicitly given and locked.\n
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    You could achieve the same using niv etc. before but that had its own issues.
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    If you need to set up a special dedicated subvolume, might aswell set up a partition instead; it’s just simpler.\n
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    With a swapfile you also can’t do multi-device setups which is a limitation I personally couldn’t live with.
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    Yes, a slight speed decrease is expected even with good proxy services at common residential speeds. Given that yours is far above the average, a greater decrease can be expected. It shouldn’t be this much though.\n
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    > The backend is the real interesting part, and the only way that we can be sure that “they cannot read the emails”\n
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    While I’d still prefer it, OSS can’t really help with that because what’s really required here is remote attestation.  \n
    That is an unsolved problem to my knowledge; there is no way to know which software they’re actually running. Even if they published the source code, they could trivially apply a patch in their deployment that stores all incoming email somewhere and you’d be none the wiser.\n
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    That’s likely one of the reasons they do everything they can to make PGP accessible to every user.\n
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    It’s plain and simply not how their service works. They’d have to build most of their service a second time but unencrypted.\n
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    It’s like asking Signal to build in support for IRC; it does not make sense for them to do that in any way without malicious intent needed.\n
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    > no IMAP = no easy migration to somewhere else\n
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    You *have* IMAP access via the bridge. That’s what it’s for.
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    > The backend is the real interesting part, and the only way that we can be sure that “they cannot read the emails”\n
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    That’s likely one of the reasons they do everything they can to make PGP accessible to every user.\n
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    It’s plain and simply not how their service works. They’d have to build most of their service a second time but unencrypted.\n
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    It’s like asking Signal to build in support for IRC; it does not make sense for them to do that in any way without malicious intent needed.\n
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    > no IMAP = no easy migration to somewhere else\n
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    You *have* IMAP access via the bridge. That’s what it’s for.
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    > The backend is the real interesting part, and the only way that we can be sure that “they cannot read the emails”\n
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    > They’re not doing like proton and close basic stuff like IMAP and SMTP as a way to force you on the official apps\n
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    The reason Proton cannot do IMAP/SMTP is that *they cannot read your emails* which is required for both. That’s a feature, not a bug.\n
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    > BSD which iOS is based on\n
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    > BSD which iOS is based on\n
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